Khadr judge fired by military

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh look Bush-Chaney says..

"Hey Einstein....over 13,000 Americans were detained in this way.

Then you can move on to explaining the internment of 120,000 citizens and resident aliens of Japanese decent during WW2 by FDR, another one of America's greatest presidents. (Hint: that would be after 1866) It was upheld by the USSC."

Brilliant. You use an action engaged in by Lincoln's government that was later declared unconstitutional, and the internment of Japanese in World War Two as your basis of argument for why the current War Commissions Act is acceptable.

Correct...I have effectively presented the "unconstitutional" actions of America's greatest presidents compared to what the current administration has done. I'm glad you have finally figured this out...E=mc²

In so doing you demonstrate that;

i- you do not know the difference between making a moral argument and a legal one and try fuse them into one and the same, i.e., if you feel its morally acceptable, then it legally must be as well;

ii-that morality and legality are defined by whether other people engaged in the same acts.

I don't give a rat's ass about interpretations of morality....yours or mine.

Noth arguments of course continue your exercise of demonstrating you do not understand legal or moral princples let alone any doctine of moral or legal equivalency.

But hey, you feel so confident in your brilliance you call moi Einstein.

Yes...I did...sue me...legally and morally!

You want to get in my face Hawkins? You want to throw physicists around?

Come and get it.

Here let's engage in some fractal theory shall we?

Oh Christ...you must be joking. Are smart people prone to such verbosity?

No projecting your moral opinion on what you feel is chaos, doesn't make it orderly.

Law and morality are not defined or based on your political beliefs. They are based on fundamental principles that are neutral to political consideration and would apply to all.

All you do is engage in an exercise of might is right or if it suits your political oinion, then its moral and legal.

Actually, I am a student of history (and reality)....not fools.

Sorry the US Supreme Court rejected that kind of self-serving politically partisan thinking process over and over again. Now let us once again expose your fallacious reasoning.

OK by me...but exposing yourself in public is risky.

You make reference to the fact and infer that the US Supreme Court stated the internment of the Japanese during World War Two was morally and legally acceptable.

Once again I say-bullshit.

Hey Einstein....would you accept $21,000 CAN as just compensation for more than 3 years in a prison camp, loss of land, property, and oh so holy constitutional rights? How about a big SMOOCH and an APOLOGY like....you know!

The entire point of this exercise was to demonstrate that the prevailing policy and jurisprudence of the day locked these citizens and resident aliens up...just like in Canada. And it could happen again according to Polynewbie [FEMA death trains].

Of course in Bush-Chaney's selective world

...Been there. Done that. Its called facism.

OK..I call it the United States and Canada. To each his own.

The more you call me Einstein Bush-C, the more I can only say one thing in response-yoh Benito careful before someone hangs you.

Tell it to the judge...NEXT!

[Rue]

Bush Chaney did you wake up today and notice what Supreme Court Justice Kennedy did yesterday? Contradicted you for the third time and once again the USSC has ruled the War Commissions Act is unconstitutional and you know what they say, 3 strikes and you are out and come now, we all know baseball is as American as your attempt to imitate John Wayne.

Student of history?

Ahahahahahah. With that selective memory? Please have fun reading Kennedy's decision.

[GostHacked]

BC

Actually, I am a student of history (and reality)....not fools.

And what did you learn by studying history? People that study history, see the atrocities of past leaders and compare them to current leaders and say, no difference who cares... they are the fools.

[myata]

Looks like Khadr's legal team may get their wish courtesy of the US Supreme Court. By a 5-4 decision, the court ruled that detainees may challenge their circumstance in US civilian courts.

That will only take a few more years!

Correct, it's been no less than 5 years already, and one's yet to see one single case where the sacred right to not be subjected to arbitrary detention could be challenged in a normal civil court.

And Bush has vowed to fight the Supreme Court's decision with further "improvements" in legislation.

Who knows, maybe, it's the sign of the things to come in the new post 9/11 world: the lofty court that upholds glorious freedoms for all the world to see; and the administration that trudges along, without paying any heed. And once the model has settled firmly in the common folks minds (usually shouldn't take too long), what do we get?

[peter_puck]

Unfortunately your supposition has no basis in reality. If Olga, the North Korean spy, is in custody (as she must be if she is on trial), how is Olga to reveal to her Masters in Ponyang that the CIA can read the mail? Hold a press confrence? Write a book? Phone Kim Il Jong?

The US cannot keep drugs out of max security prisons...how can they prevent Olga from getting it out ? Are you going to keep Olga in solitary confinement for the rest of her life ? No letters.....phone calls...

Somehow if I were the person who ratted her out....I would not sleep well

[CANADIEN]

BC

And what did you learn by studying history? People that study history, see the atrocities of past leaders and compare them to current leaders and say, no difference who cares... they are the fools.

Looks to me like BC is not studying himself then

[CANADIEN]

US Supreme Court and the rule of law 3 -- George W. Bush 0

[Rue]

US Supreme Court and the rule of law 3 -- George W. Bush 0

Rue 3, Busch-Chaney 0.

Lol.

I am gonna go easy now on the Bush-C dude. I feel sorry for him. From what I can gather, he's stuck trying to sell all his GM trucks and his hummer to pay his rising food bills and mortgage.

Me I am struggling to pay the friggin gas on my Honda and my own mortgage and deal with Flaherty's denials so I can't help Bush.

Besides he is probably a Yankees fan. If he was a Cubs fan he might and I say might just get some sympathy.

[Peter F]

The US cannot keep drugs out of max security prisons...how can they prevent Olga from getting it out ? Are you going to keep Olga in solitary confinement for the rest of her life ? No letters.....phone calls...

Somehow if I were the person who ratted her out....I would not sleep well

If Olga is in jail (guilty after a fair trial) why wouldn't you sleep well at night?

If Olga is free (not guilty after a fair trial) why wouldn't you sleep well at night?

Besides that...this isn't about you. This is about "Olga the alleged North Korean spy" and wether Olga gets a fair trial after you rat her out.

Here's how your version of a fair trial for Olga would go:

Prosectution: "Your Honour, The Crown would gladly show that the accused is a spy. Unfortunately, to actually do so would imperil the lives of our agents abroad. Know, however, that we have ample evidence that would prove the accuseds' guilt beyond doubt if we were foolish enough t to produce it. The Crown rests."

Judge: "Thank you. I shall now retire and consider my verdict. I shan't be long."

Defence: "Objection, you Honour, the Defence has yet to refute the Crown's case"

Judge: "Overuled. Did you not hear the Crown? They have ample evidence proving guilt."

Edited June 28, 2008 by Peter F

[bush_cheney2004]

Me I am struggling to pay the friggin gas on my Honda and my own mortgage and deal with Flaherty's denials so I can't help Bush.

I'm sure you are struggling....me..not so much. I bagged $9,000 just this past week on alternative energy stocks, including one in Canada (Hydrogenics - HYGS).

Gas is still cheaper than Diet Coke, and I buy as much as I want (both). Have never owned a GM vehicle....think Blue Oval.

Besides he is probably a Yankees fan. If he was a Cubs fan he might and I say might just get some sympathy.

Save the sympathy for yourself.....you will need it after that 'Finkelstein' ass kicking you are taking.

Meanwhile...back at 'Gitmo....Khadr eats Kellogg's Froot Loops for breakfast...again.

Edited June 28, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[Rue]

I'm sure you are struggling....me..not so much. I bagged $9,000 just this past week on alternative energy stocks, including one in Canada (Hydrogenics - HYGS).

Gas is still cheaper than Diet Coke, and I buy as much as I want (both). Have never owned a GM vehicle....think Blue Oval.

Save the sympathy for yourself.....you will need it after that 'Finkelstein' ass kicking you are taking.

Meanwhile...back at 'Gitmo....Khadr eats Kellogg's Froot Loops for breakfast...again.

Lol. Finklestein ass kicking. Ahahah. Good one. Diet Coke? Geezuz Bush you think drinking Diet coke's gonna get rid of that red-neck gut of yours? Lol. Give up that American piss y'all call beer.

Blue Oval? At this point I will wait. I hear they are on the verge of a battery that can keep the charge for 400 miles and will be able to get that up and running soon with a hybrid engine.

Whose kidding who. Yer buddies at the large car dealers and the oil corps are sitting on a lot of stuff so you can make some bucks on the commodity market.

All power to you. When it comes to speculating, you take your chances. So if you make a buck I do not knock it. I'm a bleeding heart liberal you know not a commie.

Obama loves you.