Liberal Assault On Religion

Mr.Canada · December 16, 2008

Goes to show you... I thought you were in your 60's or later from your posts. Most conservatives long for fiscal conservatism, most social conservatives long for what you do. I think you'd be surprised, despite labels, who is truely conservative here.

I am wise beyond my years. No doubt my brilliant mind and sharp wit betrayed your senses.

Topaz · December 17, 2008

If you were bron in the '50's or later you probably watched "leave to beaver" were mom stayed home, dad went to work and everything seem so peaceful. Well alot of us found out that life is far from what we saw on that program or Ossie and Harriet, which Ricky and his music was the best thing on that show. The Nam war and the 60's made what we have now. A very out of control world in every aspect, and we only have our memories and our dreams then wake up to someone throwing shoes at a US president!!! As far as religon, it best to stay away from that topic it only causes wars.

bush_cheney2004 · December 17, 2008

If you were bron in the '50's or later you probably watched "leave to beaver" were mom stayed home, dad went to work and everything seem so peaceful. Well alot of us found out that life is far from what we saw on that program or Ossie and Harriet, which Ricky and his music was the best thing on that show. The Nam war and the 60's made what we have now. A very out of control world in every aspect, and we only have our memories and our dreams then wake up to someone throwing shoes at a US president!!! As far as religon, it best to stay away from that topic it only causes wars.

Jeeeezuss Khrist...don't you have any Canadian memories? :lol:

...there must be something.....

Peter F · December 17, 2008

Jeeeezuss Khrist...don't you have any Canadian memories?
...there must be something.....

Yeah there is! As Topaz said...Leave it to Beaver, Brady Bunch, Get Smart, I Love Lucy, Bonanza and a few CBC produced shows that you've probably never heard of. We don't refer to the USofA as the elephant for nothin.

Peter F · December 17, 2008

Yeah there is! As Topaz said...Leave it to Beaver, Brady Bunch, Get Smart, I Love Lucy, Bonanza and a few CBC produced shows that you've probably never heard of. We don't refer to the USofA as the elephant for nothin.

Oh, I forgot ' Gunsmoke. Twilight Zone, Apple Pie and the Bee Gee's. All part of the Canadian experience. The curse of sharing the same language as you guys. Quebecers don't suffer so much from it.

Canadian Blue · December 17, 2008

Jeeeezuss Khrist...don't you have any Canadian memories?

The Littlest Hobo and The Raccoons.

M.Dancer · December 17, 2008

The Littlest Hobo and The Raccoons.

The Trouble with Tracy

Razzle Dazzle

The Johnny Jelly Bean Show

Rocket Robin Hood (yes, that's canajan)

Oleg Bach · December 17, 2008

The secualarist mind bathes it self in self importance and superiourity. Most of the top secularists are zealots - no different that religious fanatics and just as willing to persecute. You would assme that the abandonment of God - would generate peace some how - problem being as they omit the higher state of mindedness - they play god. This is a very basic issue - they crave power and actually believe that they will bring peace to the earth - even if they have to kill every last believer on the planet...as if they are a disease. I went to an art opening and their was this atheist socialist artist displaying his works - the were fine paintings - but he had cross breed humans with animals and it was very disturbing and destructive. In his mind he wished to show that humanity are less than animals and are to be held in contempt - the work was ozzing uglyness...This is the secualarist agenda - to debase us to the lowest level - then control though engineering - problem - they are not that smart to re-create the world as they would like to see it - they will damage what we have and create chaos and suffering.

BigAl · January 16, 2009

Catholic professor punished for views
Unbelievable! One complaint from a single arrogant, sanctimonious, red-diaper-doper-baby, fool college student and this decent man is targeted and removed from his class. Counseling for tolerance?! Outragous. Who's the intolerant one here?

It seems that stories such as this one are starting to appear almost daily as the secularists continue their mindless assault on one of the most important stablizing forces in society: religion, Christianity specifically.

Why is it that fanatical left-wing groups such as the ACLU are attempting to drive religion from public life entirely? How does the Star of David that a person wheres around their neck even concern you? How are you adversly affected by the message of love envoked by a public nativity sceen? This is absolute insanity.

The US Constitution guarantees freedom OF religion, NOT freedom FROM religion. If this single college student twit is so terribly offended, then he should take it upon HIMSELF to withdraw from the class. Take you're secularist crap elsewhere.

You know, under normal circumstances, I would be the guy saying "hell yeah, get religion out of the schools"...but based on what I've read on this issue, it really does sound like this student has a pickle up his or her posterior about this issue. The professor might be treading on potentially touchy ground, but come on -- tolerance counseling? It's liberals like this student that give the rest of us kind of a bad name...you know, the "person-hole versus manhole" crowd. It's all a bit much.

Oleg Bach · January 16, 2009

When we went to school we said a prayer every morning - it was a pledge to be good...and we adhered to that pledge the best we could. It worked to keep order. With the liberal utlitarian agenda in place within the schools - they do not want our young students to be honourable and good - Good people are difficult to control. Religion provide a base for family - for the tribe - each tribe had a leader - Father and Mother - and above those two was not the state but God...Liberals want total control over children because they for the most part work as henchmen for those that consider the nation a private estate and us as the cattle...heaven forbid there are resisters.

I asked a lawyer friend of mind what he thinks about "The supremacy of God and the rule of law there under"...I asked "what is the purose of having God mentioned in the preamble?" - He said that in a court the reason for having God mentioned was to bring the participants into a state of higher mindedness...If this provision was not in place there would be abuse of your fellows because someone would be tempted to play god...He said it's not a case of believing or not...it simply works. What we have with liberal secularism is great experimentation on our populations - woman in charge hate the patriarchy and foolishly believe that God is a dominating MALE symbol --- and the men are so feminized and full of liberal inflicted guilt for being males that they dare not take charge or offer good old fashioned advice.

BigAl · January 16, 2009

When we went to school we said a prayer every morning - it was a pledge to be good...and we adhered to that pledge the best we could. It worked to keep order. With the liberal utlitarian agenda in place within the schools - they do not want our young students to be honourable and good - Good people are difficult to control. Religion provide a base for family - for the tribe - each tribe had a leader - Father and Mother - and above those two was not the state but God...Liberals want total control over children because they for the most part work as henchmen for those that consider the nation a private estate and us as the cattle...heaven forbid there are resisters.
I asked a lawyer friend of mind what he thinks about "The supremacy of God and the rule of law there under"...I asked "what is the purose of having God mentioned in the preamble?" - He said that in a court the reason for having God mentioned was to bring the participants into a state of higher mindedness...If this provision was not in place there would be abuse of your fellows because someone would be tempted to play god...He said it's not a case of believing or not...it simply works. What we have with liberal secularism is great experimentation on our populations - woman in charge hate the patriarchy and foolishly believe that God is a dominating MALE symbol --- and the men are so feminized and full of liberal inflicted guilt for being males that they dare not take charge or offer good old fashioned advice.

Good people are difficult to control? Liberals want henchmen? Maybe I'm totally off-base here, but the last time I checked, the greatest measure of social control ever instituted in this culture was religion. I will agree with you about the male guilt bit, but the rest of this post is pretty extreme dude.

Mr.Canada · January 18, 2009

This isn't surprising at all. The secular socialist hatred of Jesus Christ is well documented. If this teacher had been a Muslim or a Punjab would he or she been asked to hide their religion? Of coarse not.

The war is against Christianity, as long as Christianity is oppressed then all is well. There is no call to oppress other religions just Christianity. The religion of terrorism is Islam. The religion of freedom is Christianity. It makes one wonder which side these socialists are on.

charter.rights · January 18, 2009

This isn't surprising at all. The secular socialist hatred of Jesus Christ is well documented. If this teacher had been a Muslim or a Punjab would he or she been asked to hide their religion? Of coarse not.
The war is against Christianity, as long as Christianity is oppressed then all is well. There is no call to oppress other religions just Christianity. The religion of terrorism is Islam. The religion of freedom is Christianity. It makes one wonder which side these socialists are on.

Sure...What do you call the Crusades then...liberation?

Mr.Canada · January 18, 2009

Sure...What do you call the Crusades then...liberation?

Let's try to keep the arguments based in the present day, not 700 years ago. Thanks.

MontyBurns · January 18, 2009

It makes one wonder which side these socialists are on.

I think we all know who's side the socialists are on. Socialists are traitors and the enemy. They should be shipped to North Korea where they belong.

charter.rights · January 18, 2009

Let's try to keep the arguments based in the present day, not 700 years ago. Thanks.

It is relevant and you don't get to limit the discussion just because it counters your narrow viewpoint.

As lately as 20 years ago the Church was still running abusive Indian Residential Schools and to this very day the Catholic Church has refused to apologize fully and disclose the graves of hundreds of children who died under their care.

Then as pointed out previously we still have lots of pedophiles, adulterers and drunks not only thriving in the priesthood but protected by a papal order. The Church is the least of the Holy in this world and use their money and power to influence states to commit murder and genocide. The Catholic Church has a long history of abusing the public in countries all over the world.

There is no "liberal assault" on the Church or religion. There is an on-going revelation of the exact nature of the atrocities and abuses that the Church and different Christian sects have issued over the year. THAT is call "history" and it is being told as it happened.

CANADIEN · January 18, 2009

The religion of terrorism is Islam. The religion of freedom is Christianity.

So speaks the man who claims that killing in the name of God is OK.

CANADIEN · January 18, 2009

I think we all know who's side the socialists are on. Socialists are traitors and the enemy. They should be shipped to North Korea where they belong.

Don't know the difference between socialist and communist, I see.

Mr.Canada · January 18, 2009

There is no "liberal assault" on the Church or religion. There is an on-going revelation of the exact nature of the atrocities and abuses that the Church and different Christian sects have issued over the year. THAT is call "history" and it is being told as it happened.

There isn't? There sure is your assault filled post speaks to that. The Catholic Church isn't filled with pedophiles and drunks, you're being quite foolish posting such lies. Just because the RCC has hurt you in some way doesn't make it ok to bash a group you don't like because it hurt you in the past.

The white liberal guilt is strong in you. Why do you feel so guilty?

charter.rights · January 18, 2009

There isn't? There sure is your assault filled post speaks to that. The Catholic Church isn't filled with pedophiles and drunks, you're being quite foolish posting such lies. Just because the RCC has hurt you in some way doesn't make it ok to bash a group you don't like because it hurt you in the past.
The white liberal guilt is strong in you. Why do you feel so guilty?

We have already proven for the benefit of the readers of this thread that the Catholic Church does harbour drunks, pedophiles and adulterers. Since you deny it in face of overwhelming evidence we must also conclude that the Catholic Church encourages you to lie too.

So perhaps if you are representative of the Catholic Church then we should demand a label be placed on all churches: Warning. Liars pedophiles, drunkards and adulterers may be present. Avoid contact and do not give out any personal information. Notify the authorities the minute a priest touches you!

Oh abd BTW the Church hasn't "hurt me". I know a number of priest who while they are nice and friendly guys are fraught with addiction, phobias and compulsions. They shouldn't be in charge of their parishes, but in spite of their acknowledgment the Church will not take an official position with them. It is a sad situation waiting to happen.

Edited January 18, 2009 by charter.rights

Mr.Canada · January 18, 2009

We have already proven for the benefit of the readers of this thread that the Catholic Church does harbour drunks, pedophiles and adulterers. Since you deny it in face of overwhelming evidence we must also conclude that the Catholic Church encourages you to lie too.
So perhaps if you are representative of the Catholic Church then we should demand a label be placed on all churches: Warning. Liars pedophiles, drunkards and adulterers may be present. Avoid contact and do not give out any personal information. Notify the authorities the minute a priest touches you!

Oh abd BTW the Church hasn't "hurt me". I know a number of priest who while they are nice and friendly guys are fraught with addiction, phobias and compulsions. They shouldn't be in charge of their parishes, but in spite of their acknowledgment the Church will not take an official position with them. It is a sad situation waiting to happen.

Give me the names of the priests and I'll look into it immediately. But as usual you're full of it,

CANADIEN · January 18, 2009

Give me the names of the priests and I'll look into it immediately. But as usual you're full of it,

So, it is not true that some people in position of authoruty in the Church protected priests who had commited pedophile crimes? Too bad you didn't warn the Pope before he admitted those things had happened. I was in the crowd when he did in Toronto in 2002.

Edited January 18, 2009 by CANADIEN

Mr.Canada · January 18, 2009

So, it is not true that some people in position of authoruty in the Church protected priests who had commited pedophile crimes? Too bad you didn't warn the Pope before he admitted those things had happened. I was in the crowd when he did in Toronto in 2002.

Why would you, an atheist go to see the Holy Father? So you can make fun of the Christians? I asked for the names of these Priests that he claims to know who are drunks and pedophiles. So I can look into it and get them excommunicated if found to be true.

Pedophiles are in every profession in the world. The Catholic Church gets all the press, that's all. It doesn't mean that the RCC is rampant with pedophiles, give me a break.

There are many many more child abuses in the public education system but this is rarely reported by the left wing MSM, gee I wonder why.

charter.rights · January 19, 2009

Why would you, an atheist go to see the Holy Father? So you can make fun of the Christians? I asked for the names of these Priests that he claims to know who are drunks and pedophiles. So I can look into it and get them excommunicated if found to be true.
Pedophiles are in every profession in the world. The Catholic Church gets all the press, that's all. It doesn't mean that the RCC is rampant with pedophiles, give me a break.

There are many many more child abuses in the public education system but this is rarely reported by the left wing MSM, gee I wonder why.

First of all I don't know last names since the 12 step program maintains anonymity and even if I knew, I took an oath of confidentiality. The only one full of it is you.

And no one said that the Church was "rampant" with pedophiles. We proved that the Catholic Church protected a number of them and instead of turning them over to police they hid them and move them around. Under the law which your Church seems to ignore, if child abuse is even suspected in the public education system the teacher or anyone else MUST report it. Yet in the last 20 years there have been numerous cases where the Priest was diddling kids and when the Diocese was contacted they simply moved them to a new parish. That has been documented in many criminal cases and had the victims not come forward 10 years later, the priests might very well have gotten away with it.

You have no authority in the Church and it is likely you have been booted out from a few. No one in their right mid would endorse a racist, ignorant and murder promoting woman hater like you and I highly doubt the Priest even knows your name.

"Pedophiles are in every profession in the world."

Now you are trying to rationalize pedophilia within the Catholic Church! How low and pathetic will you go....geezzz!

Edited January 19, 2009 by charter.rights

Mr.Canada · January 19, 2009

First of all I don't know last names since the 12 step program maintains anonymity and even if I knew, I took an oath of confidentiality. The only one full of it is you.
And no one said that the Church was "rampant" with pedophiles. We proved that the Catholic Church protected a number of them and instead of turning them over to police they hid them and move them around. Under the law which your Church seems to ignore, if child abuse is even suspected in the public education system the teacher or anyone else MUST report it. Yet in the last 20 years there have been numerous cases where the Priest was diddling kids and when the Diocese was contacted they simply moved them to a new parish. That has been documented in many criminal cases and had the victims not come forward 10 years later, the priests might very well have gotten away with it.

You have no authority in the Church and it is likely you have been booted out from a few. No one in their right mid would endorse a racist, ignorant and murder promoting woman hater like you and I highly doubt the Priest even knows your name.

So you belong to a 12 step program that has more many Priests in it who are all drunks and are pedophiles. This is what you claimed.

Yes you said the Catholic CHurch was full of pedophiles and drunks and you personally knew of a lot of the Priests in your area.

You wouldn't know of the authority I hold within the church or the contacts I have. I am Roman Catholic and am very active in the Catholic community.