Leafless Posted May 7, 2008 Report Posted May 7, 2008 PARIS - Gov. Gen. Michaëlle Jean was greeted at the airport by a French guard of honour yesterday as she began her five-day state visit.Ms. Jean, whose arrival coincides with the first anniversary of President Nicolas Sarkozy's election victory, later met with Prime Minister François Fillon. It's "a real pleasure for me as Governor General of Canada to be here and to celebrate ... that important chapter of our history," Ms. Jean told reporters after the meeting. France is viewed by the Canadian government as a key potential ally in talks aimed at creating closer economic ties between Canada and the EU. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...59-ee285c62eb42 And some Canadians wonder why Canada has no culture. Here is our governor general Michaelle Jean an Haitian French immigrant promoting a province that racially discriminates against other Canadian cultures. Our federal government refuses to set Quebec straight relating to honouring conditions relating to Canada's Charter of rights and Freedoms. In fact Canada imports and exports more to the the U.K rather then France which alone makes the U.K. a superior influence as an ally in talks aimed at creating closer economic ties between Canada and the EU. Country % Share ofTotal Exports United States 81.6 United Kingdom 2.3 Japan 2.1 China 1.7 Mexico 1.0 Germany 0.9 France 0.7 Netherlands 0.7 South Korea 0.7 Belgium 0.5 Total of Top 10 92.2 Canada's Top 10 Import Markets by Country, 2006 Country % Share of Total Imports United States 54.9 China 8.7 Mexico 4.0 Japan 3.9 Germany 2.8 United Kingdom 2.7 South Korea 1.5 Norway 1.4 France 1.3 Algeria 1.2 Total of Top 10 82.4 http://www.2ontario.com/welcome/coca_401.asp Canada it appears is purposely creating a cultural conflict to ensure Canada does not develop a cuture that is common to all Canadians. Shortly after de Gaulle's 1967 Montreal address, the French Consulate General in Quebec City, already viewed by many as a de facto embassy, was enlarged and the office of Consul General at Quebec replaced, by de Gaulle's order, with that of Consul General to the Quebec Government. At the same time, the flow of officials to Quebec City increased further, and it became accepted practice for high officials to visit Quebec without going to Ottawa at all — despite Ottawa's repeated complaints about the breaches of diplomatic protocol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Canadian_relations Is this the purpose of multiculturalism, to divide and allow the winner take all? Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 7, 2008 Report Posted May 7, 2008 (edited) Here is our governor general Michaelle Jean an Haitian French immigrant promoting a province that racially discriminates against other Canadian cultures. Right here is your problem.... Your inability to comprehend....comprehend? Ain't that a word rooted in French? Yep, that's your problem. Edited May 7, 2008 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Black Dog Posted May 7, 2008 Report Posted May 7, 2008 And some Canadians wonder why Canada has no culture.Here is our governor general Michaelle Jean an Haitian French immigrant promoting a province that racially discriminates against other Canadian cultures. How can one discriminate against a culture that you concede does not exist? Quote
Leafless Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Posted May 7, 2008 (edited) How can one discriminate against a culture that you concede does not exist? Canada has a culture and always did. Like I said, "SOME Canadians", some members of this very board that claim Canada has no culture. It is also Quebec who claims their culture is so much different than the ROC using bits and pieces of a past culture that no longer forms the unilateral legal basis for Canada's original undoctored constitution. Edited May 7, 2008 by Leafless Quote
Leafless Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Posted May 7, 2008 Right here is your problem....Your inability to comprehend....comprehend? Ain't that a word rooted in French? Yep, that's your problem. Is Dancer having problems understanding that not only is GG Michaelle Jean a citizen of Haiti, she also was a citizen of France. But unlike Liberal leader Dion who is also a citizen of France, denounced her French citizenship. She speaks French and English, Jean is fluent in Spanish, Italian, and Haitian Creole and can read Portuguese. Just how divisive Michelle Jean is: Jean's first official business on Tuesday was a meeting with French Prime Minister Francois Fillon. She told a news conference that both Canada and France want to celebrate the "permanence of the French fact" in America, "more particularly" in Canada. "This dimension is extremely alive back home, in Quebec obviously, but also in other francophone communities in Canada." http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/...5488961-cp.html Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 7, 2008 Report Posted May 7, 2008 Is Dancer having problems understanding that not only is GG Michaelle Jean a citizen of Haiti, she also was a citizen of France. But unlike Liberal leader Dion who is also a citizen of France, denounced her French citizenship. She speaks French and English, Jean is fluent in Spanish, Italian, and Haitian Creole and can read Portuguese. Just how divisive Michelle Jean is: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/...5488961-cp.html citation for france Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted May 7, 2008 Report Posted May 7, 2008 Leafless, who struggles with english, believes that being multi lingual is divisive.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Leafless Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Posted May 8, 2008 Leafless, who struggles with english, believes that being multi lingual is divisive.... Two spelling errors Dancer, one being english (English) and the other multi lingual (multilingual), in a short elementary 11 word sentence. Not bad, for an academic like you claim to be. Ha, ha, ha. And "struggles with english", which I fail to comprehend, unless you mean the English language and not its people. Some academic. I think Dancer is somehow struggling to defend his French friends in Quebec. Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 8, 2008 Report Posted May 8, 2008 Two spelling errors Dancer, one being english (English) and the other multi lingual (multilingual), in a short elementary 11 word sentence. Not bad, for an academic like you claim to be. Ha, ha, ha. And "struggles with english", which I fail to comprehend, unless you mean the English language and not its people. Some academic. I think Dancer is somehow struggling to defend his French friends in Quebec. Struggling with english...yes you do. As when you erroneously claim that someone who is bilingual cannot be an anglophone...and a host of other examples where your befuddled vocabulary makes it crystal clear you are english challenged. ...I have never ever, ever, claimed to be an academic which is again just another one of your unsupportable claims. I just happen to be a lot smarter than you, but I'm not bragging or anything, that which I rest my arse on is smarter than you. Now how about finding a credible source to back up your spurious claim that Jean is a french citizen.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
gc1765 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Posted May 8, 2008 If there's one good thing that I can say about Leafless' posts, it is their humour. See if you can spot the irony here... Here is our governor general Michaelle Jean an Haitian French immigrant promoting a province that racially discriminates against other Canadian cultures. Our federal government refuses to set Quebec straight relating to honouring conditions relating to Canada's Charter of rights and Freedoms. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Leafless Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Posted May 8, 2008 Struggling with english...yes you do. As when you erroneously claim that someone who is bilingual cannot be an anglophone...and a host of other examples where your befuddled vocabulary makes it crystal clear you are english challenged. ...I have never ever, ever, claimed to be an academic which is again just another one of your unsupportable claims. I just happen to be a lot smarter than you, but I'm not bragging or anything, that which I rest my arse on is smarter than you. No you are not smarter than I. But I agree you are a smart ass. Now how about finding a credible source to back up your spurious claim that Jean is a french citizen.... There is no credible source to back your ridiculous allegations that Jean is currently a French citizen. In fact if you learn to read and comprehend the English language you will notice that I said: Is Dancer having problems understanding that not only is GG Michaelle Jean a citizen of Haiti, she also WAS (not is) a citizen of France. But unlike Liberal leader Dion who is also a citizen of France, denounced her French citizenship And she did this for good reason: A section of the French civil code forbade French citizens from holding government or military positions in other countries, and, as Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces and as Governor General, Jean would hold both military and government positions; however, the law is rarely applied. The French embassy stated that there was "no question" that the law would not be enforced in Jean's case. Still, on September 25, two days before her scheduled swearing-in, Jean made a statement renouncing her French citizenship, putting the controversy to rest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean Quote
Leafless Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) If there's one good thing that I can say about Leafless' posts, it is their humour. See if you can spot the irony here... QUOTE(Leafless @ May 7 2008, 07:58 AM) Here is our governor general Michaelle Jean an Haitian French immigrant promoting a province that racially discriminates against other Canadian cultures. Our federal government refuses to set Quebec straight relating to honouring conditions relating to Canada's Charter of rights and Freedoms. It is you that does not see the humour. Here we have a Haitian immigrant, now obviously a Canadian citizen, who was also a citizen of France, married to a film producer friendly with Quebec French separatist, becomes governor general and promotes the racist ideologies of discriminatory Quebec language Charter in a province that officially declares its language French. And Michaelle Jean deplores racism. Go figure. Edited May 8, 2008 by Leafless Quote
Leafless Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) And back to concerns that reflect the topic of this post rather than warding off personal (against forum rules) attacks). Even Bloc leader Gilees Duceppe thinks the GG should not be representing Quebec in France: Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe said Wednesday that Canada should no longer have a governor general and called the monarchy "ridiculous," but critics dismissed his attack as a vain attempt to regain his party's relevancy. "We're not celebrating Canada, we're celebrating the foundation of Quebec," he told reporters outside the House of Commons. "And first of all, I don't feel I'm being represented at all by someone who represents the Queen. It says that this is not a democratic system. She's representing the Queen of England." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories Liberal leader Dion should be proud of what Duceppe said and be glad he did not renounce his French citizenship. Edited May 8, 2008 by Leafless Quote
gc1765 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Posted May 8, 2008 I'll give you another clue... It is you that does not see the humour. Here we have a Haitian immigrant, now obviously a Canadian citizen, who was also a citizen of France, married to a film producer friendly with Quebec French separatist, becomes governor general and promotes the racist ideologies of discriminatory Quebec language Charter in a province that officially declares its language French. And Michaelle Jean deplores racism. Go figure. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Leafless Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Posted May 9, 2008 I'll give you another clue... I will give you a clue you don't know what you are talking about. Racism does NOT necessarily apply to skin colour. Prejudices on other grounds such as discrimination to national or regional origin, religion, occupation, social status or some other distinction. In the case of Michele Jean, she is promoting institutional racism which is totally different than bigotry or racial bias type racism. In other words she is promoting a provinces racist systematic policies that are harmful to other cultures. Quote
gc1765 Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Prejudices on other grounds such as discrimination to national or regional origin... You mean like criticizing someone for being from Haiti, or for being from Quebec? Still can't believe you haven't figured it out... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Rue Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 First off the Governor General to me is a babe and I want to get in her pants. She has a nice butt. This is the first Governor General I have ever had sexual thoughts about. Romeo Leblanc just did not cut it. That said, what the hell is your problem Leafless? Sarkozy has been the first French President to come out in strong support of the federal government and Quebec remaining in confederation and you are pooping your pants? Have you heard anything he said? Hey for that matter I would do Carla Bruni and the Governor General in a menage a trois. Oops I spoke French. The Governor General has been a good one. She is intelligent, articulate, open and genuine to people and she represents Canada just fine. So back off Leafless. She's mine. Quote
Leafless Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Posted May 9, 2008 You mean like criticizing someone for being from Haiti, or for being from Quebec?Still can't believe you haven't figured it out... I don't have to figure anything out. It is up to you to properly identify WTF your talking about. Quote
Leafless Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Posted May 9, 2008 Sarkozy has been the first French President to come out in strong support of the federal government and Quebec remaining in confederation and you are pooping your pants? Have you heard anything he said? Canada politically speaking is already spoken for, from the country that gave us our constitution. The last thing we need is a meddling French president to further fuel problematic minority Quebec political ideologies. Quote
guyser Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 I don't have to figure anything out. I think you meant can't . Quote
Leafless Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Posted May 10, 2008 I think you meant can't . No offense guyser but what do degenerates know about logic? Quote
Topaz Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 And back to concerns that reflect the topic of this post rather than warding off personal (against forum rules) attacks). Even Bloc leader Gilees Duceppe thinks the GG should not be representing Quebec in France: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories Liberal leader Dion should be proud of what Duceppe said and be glad he did not renounce his French citizenship. I was watching question period when the Bloc member stood up and gave that statement. They also said that Canada can't celebrate the 400 year birthday because it was "New France" and Canada hadn't be formed yet. Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 11, 2008 Report Posted May 11, 2008 I don't have to figure anything out. It is up to you to properly identify WTF your talking about. He has. At least twice...apparently to some, according to you, logic is unknown, which explains why you can't figure it out. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
CANADIEN Posted May 11, 2008 Report Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) Let's get to the real issue, Leafless. The Governor-General did NOT speak in favour of that pile of m*nure called Quebec's language laws. The way the BQ foams at the mouth every time she opens hers tells aplenty about it. Her real "crime" is not that. It is that she rightly values the place of French-speaking communities in our great county. And that she is an immigrant whose first language is not English, therefore not Canadian enough in your eyes. At least, you're entertaining Edited May 11, 2008 by CANADIEN Quote
guyser Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 No offense guyser None taken. but what do degenerates know about logic? ....I see what you did there. No idea. Quote
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