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Why bring in Stormfront? This is a globe and mail poll of attitudes regarding immigration and visible minorities, but apparently the PC types feel any mention of such things is akin to Nazism.

I brought up Stomfront because that is where he found his other article about the aids fellow.

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You are fighting against socialsim and liberalism so why the concern that immigrants are not "improving the social fabric"?

You are now being wishy washy... Either you want rightwing immigrants (religious, intolerant rule-sticklers) or you don't. Which is it? If you want more "regular" (read European) immigrants then you will have even MORE leftwingers (Europeans are more left leaning than Canadians for the most part).

You would think the Left would feel that same sense of being wishy washy. Why are they so zealously in pursuit of advancing an agenda which involves bringing over more and more ultra religious ultra right wing immigrants who despise gays and think women are chattel?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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I assume then if Canada isn't to your liking you will go someplace else?

The Left's answer to hating Canada was to bring over millions and millions of foreigners to completely change the social fabric more to their liking. Now when people like Guyser walk around Toronto they can beam happily at seeing all those delightful foreigners instead of sulking at all those boring, white bread Canadians they once had to live around.

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Can't be! The nasty buggers abort 50% of their fetuses (the female ones).

Muslims think abortion is a crime. Those on the Left who continue to defend Muslim immigration are going to find themselves paid back one day as they grow in numbers and thus political power and violently oppose every single belief the Left has ever cherished other than, of course, more immigration.

Instead of worrying about Muslim terorrism I'd have thought you people would be more concerned about millions of far right religious conservative voters demanding abortion be criminalized, homosexuals be locked up, laws to combat indecency and indecent clothing in women, etc. etc. If you heard we were going to bring in a million bible-thumping southern baptists from Mississippi you'd be horrified, but these people are worse in their attitudes and you're delighted.

Reminds me of the NDP, who gleefully found a star Muslim to run for them in Ottawa last time around, Arar's wife. Then someone thought to ask her if she would support the NDP on their gay rights laws and she said "What, are you nuts? Ick! No way in hell I'm gonna vote for that!"

As for the talk of Muslim numbers, examine the trend line over the last several census's. Muslim numbers are growing exponentiallly, and if there aren't already a million (they claim to be) they soon will be.

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QUOTE(Drea @ Apr 16 2008, 07:20 PM) *

You would think the Left would feel that same sense of being wishy washy. Why are they so zealously in pursuit of advancing an agenda which involves bringing over more and more ultra religious ultra right wing immigrants who despise gays and think women are chattel?

The assumptions made to arrive at such a conclusion-that all immigrants conform to these attitudes and that all succeeding generations will cleave to the same beliefs-are pretty staggering. In short, Muslim immigration is such a relatively recent phenomenon that there's no way of determining whether the dire predictions will hold true. It's telling that people cite examples from Europe but ignore what is likely a more relevant example: the U.S., with a Muslim population that ranges anywhere from one to three million Muslims and not a race riot to be seen. Both Canada and the U.S. have historically done a better job of integrating immigrants than European nations: why assume the trend will not continue.

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The assumptions made to arrive at such a conclusion-that all immigrants conform to these attitudes and that all succeeding generations will cleave to the same beliefs-are pretty staggering. In short, Muslim immigration is such a relatively recent phenomenon that there's no way of determining whether the dire predictions will hold true. It's telling that people cite examples from Europe but ignore what is likely a more relevant example: the U.S., with a Muslim population that ranges anywhere from one to three million Muslims and not a race riot to be seen. Both Canada and the U.S. have historically done a better job of integrating immigrants than European nations: why assume the trend will not continue.

I hear what you are saying Black Dog, I sincerely do and to a degree you have a point.

The population of these Euro countries are lower than here, therefore there is a higher ratio of muslims to Euros. This fact cannot be ignored as it is significant because this is the point when things erupt.

Yes, it is a recent happening but if current trends continue how can we ignore their recent history that they have achieved in such a short time?

ALL MUSLIMS? No, absolutely not. You didn't mention this but I'll add it. Some are willing to integrate and live peaceful lives here in Canada but many are not. Europe is having a huge problem noe with muslims not willing to integrate, the same will follow here, we cannot ignore it. We learn from history and this is what recent history is telling us.

The US muslim example is flawed Black Dog as they have a much larger population than a smaller Euro nation where muslims have 10% of the population...

Islamic extremism is here and we must6 be prepared to move on it or be crushed by it.

Left wingers don't like facists? Well fill your boots because facism is here in abundance!

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ALL MUSLIMS? No, absolutely not. You didn't mention this but I'll add it. Some are willing to integrate and live peaceful lives here in Canada but many are not. Europe is having a huge problem noe with muslims not willing to integrate, the same will follow here, we cannot ignore it. We learn from history and this is what recent history is telling us.

Tell me: do all European nations have the same policies viz immigration? How do their policies compare to Canada's? France, I'm told, has problems with their Mulsim population, yet they have a extremely assimilationist policy toward immigrants and stricter controls over church/state seperation than even Canada. These differences in policy and national attitudes matter: you can't make sweeping judgements.

Islamic extremism is here and we must6 be prepared to move on it or be crushed by it.

Given the accomplishments of Islaimc extremism and Islamic nations to date, I'm not too scared.

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Canada cannot have one single melting pot. Even if you have a passing knowledge of Canadian history, you should at least understand that.
If you define "history" as starting with Trudeau's multiculturalism policy which started circa 1971 you're right. Otherwise, I don't see your point.
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....Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology that refuses to compromise. Its Imams are nothing more than poorly educated troublemakers that take direction from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran.
So true. The Muslims surrounding Israel refuse to compromise in the face of the obvious fact of Israel's permanence.
That's hilarious as the majority of Europe is going to be a muslim majority by 2050.

They're having open race riots in Europe now and since we are about 6 years behind in things like fashion can we assume that the same riots will take place here in the near future? Perhaps not but I am not the only one who is fed up with all of the accommodation afforded to newcomers while they make little to no effort to integrate at all.

I do not believe Europe will become majority Muslim. Europeans have a way of turning on a dime, and turning violently against unwanted guests. Just ask the Jewish people. The social benefit needs will eventually overwhelm productive Europeans and guarantee some sort of result, either violence or deprivation of benefits, that will reverse the tide.

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I do not believe Europe will become majority Muslim. Europeans have a way of turning on a dime, and turning violently against unwanted guests. Just ask the Jewish people.

I meant to say France not Europe, sorry. Europe will be 10% Muslim. There are 56 million Muslims in Europe right now.

Jews were persecuted by every nation before WWII, even Canada. Nobody would allow them into their nations, wel it was difficult for them to enter new nations to be sure. After WWII and Germany, not Europe, that changed or they would probably still be in the same position previous to WWII. Today jews hold a lot of power and can influence a lot of the vote, why do you think so many political parties pander to them, certainly it isn't to be pc that would be extremely naive.

Everyone is starting to make some nice points though.

Europe shaped it's multicultural polices around Canada's as we were the first nation to try this out but it is an old policy made in a different time, in a very different world and needs updating. That is the point I'm trying to make.

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The assumptions made to arrive at such a conclusion-that all immigrants conform to these attitudes and that all succeeding generations will cleave to the same beliefs-are pretty staggering.

Like playing with straw men much? I never suggested "all immigrants"

In short, Muslim immigration is such a relatively recent phenomenon that there's no way of determining whether the dire predictions will hold true.

Interesting you should make that point. Most on the Left are blithely assuring us that like other immigrants in the past, all the Muslims will soon be playing hockey and cheering Coach's Corner while their girls are wearing bikinis at the beach.

My point has been that these are not like those other immigrants, the differences much greater, and their cultural habits ingrained in a dedicated religion which they are unlikely to be parted from.

It's telling that people cite examples from Europe but ignore what is likely a more relevant example: the U.S., with a Muslim population that ranges anywhere from one to three million Muslims and not a race riot to be seen
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Interesting you should point that out too. The discussion is about multiculturalism, after all, which has its most dedicated advocates in Europe. Multiculturalism has been greatly encouraged in Europe, with draconion anti-racist, anti-discrimination laws to back that attitude up. Respect for individual cultures has been the key policy. Meanwhile, in the US, there's a demand that you fit in and drop your old-world thoughts and cutures behind you at the door.

Which is how the more conservative types are saying we should go. Meanwhile, those on the left are still all for the same policies which have resulted in race riots, terrorism, and mutual hostility and suspicion between ethnic communities in Europe.

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Like playing with straw men much? I never suggested "all immigrants"

Just Muslims.

Interesting you should make that point. Most on the Left are blithely assuring us that like other immigrants in the past, all the Muslims will soon be playing hockey and cheering Coach's Corner while their girls are wearing bikinis at the beach.

My point has been that these are not like those other immigrants, the differences much greater, and their cultural habits ingrained in a dedicated religion which they are unlikely to be parted from.

Ah yes: an unquantifiable claim based on your conception of this particular Other being unique in history.

Iteresting you should point that out too. The discussion is about multiculturalism, after all, which has its most dedicated advocates in Europe. Multiculturalism has been greatly encouraged in Europe, with draconion anti-racist, anti-discrimination laws to back that attitude up. Respect for individual cultures has been the key policy.

Europe also has a much greater degree of xenophobia and entrenched hostility towards foreigners, which is undoubtedly a source of tension.

The fact is multiculturalism is not a blanket term separate from the unique political and social contexts of the respective states in which it is practiced. It is not a one size fits all approach, nor are the problems universal.

Meanwhile, in the US, there's a demand that you fit in and drop your old-world thoughts and cutures behind you at the door.

And is this "demand" codified in the government policy? Because I've been to enough of the States to see that there's large swaths of immigrants who retain their so-called old-world thoughts and cultures while simultaneously existing as citizens of the U.S.A. Even Muslims.

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My point has been that these are not like those other immigrants, the differences much greater, and their cultural habits ingrained in a dedicated religion which they are unlikely to be parted from.

You nailed it, Muslims are a problem because Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology that will not accept assimilation or compromise. They have been nothing but a problem since Islam was founded in the 7th century.

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Now when people like Guyser walk around Toronto they can beam happily at seeing all those delightful foreigners instead of sulking at all those boring, white bread Canadians they once had to live around.

Well...then we agree. This city was snoresville in the 60's . First Rochdale, then the immigrants.

Nothing boring like white bread. I loves me some Rye, Challah, Manouska,Naan....

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Nothing boring like white bread. I loves me some Rye, Challah, Manouska,Naan....

You know that's very degrading towards immigrants when you make those statements.

Don't you see how really ignorant you are?

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You know that's very degrading towards immigrants when you make those statements.

This should be good....please apply all those rain phobic grey cells and explain the best you can, why.

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This should be good....please apply all those rain phobic grey cells and explain the best you can, why.

I was going to reply to his post, but yours is better.

This should be good.

OK mikeyD , the floors all yours. Please hurry, I have a cottage to get to and shovel some snow.

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You nailed it, Muslims are a problem because Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology that will not accept assimilation or compromise. They have been nothing but a problem since Islam was founded in the 7th century.

Islam is a religion:

The religion of Islam fulfills each and every criteria of the above-mentioned definition of terrorism. The following irrefutable facts and deductive logic will amply demonstrate this statement. Ever since Islam was founded it has left behind a legacy of violent atrocities and horrible crimes. The holy book of the Muslims, the Koran, contains specific instructions on how to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder in order to further the interests of Islam . It can clearly be called a specific instruction manual of terrorism.

The Holy Koran is full of very unholy and terrorist ambitions, it is obviously not from God, as the Muslims would have us believe. Any sane individual can see that it is a journal and collection of a terrorist’s criminal activities and ideas. This terrorist’s name is Mohammed (popularly known as the prophet of Islam). During his lifetime, Mohammed organized at least 86 expeditions against people who either refused to follow his teachings or simply came in the way of his power crazed ambitions. He led the life of a serial killer, terrorist and rapist, who perpetrated genocide throughout Arabia. Along with the pagan Arabs, many Jews and Christians were victims of this mindless terrorist. Mohammed was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went, and in its place brought terror, carnage and death. And he did all this in the name of God! Mohammed has clearly stated in the Koran that God has instructed him and all pious Muslims to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder innocent human beings, in order to further the interests of Islam.

I have stated below just a few of the verses from the Koran, which support this fact. As the Koran is supposed to be timeless and universal, the verses in it hold true even today and are used everyday by pious Muslims to justify their brutal and terrorist activities.

1. (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

In the above verse the great prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step by step instructions on how to torture and kill the unbelievers if they don't follow Islam. He is clearly instructing Muslims to commit cold-blooded murder in the name of religion.

2. (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents.

By stating the above verse, Mohammed completely absolved himself from all blame for having murdered innocents. The most insidious and devilish implication of this verse is that God is completely justifying Mohammed’s murder of the innocent Meccans. The import of this verse is that killing and violence are JUSTIFIED for Muslims, because they are doing it by divine ordinance! It is a religious duty of every Muslim to murder anyone who comes in the way of Islam. Since it is also the duty of every Muslim to ensure that the entire world is converted to Islam by force if necessary, one must directly conclude that it is the religious duty of Muslims to kill all those who are non-Muslim. This conclusion is derived directly from the supreme edict of Allah, who admonishes that even the Muslim who feels it is wrong to kill, must murder in the name of Allah, otherwise he is not a true Muslim. Over and above this, Mohammed is hypocritically implying that warfare is hateful to him, but he participated in it because God ordained it.

3. (Koran 69:30-37) "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."

This verse is in reference to the prisoners that Mohammed held for ransom after the battle of Badr. This battle occurred on March 17, 623 AD. This is the month of Ramadan—another sacred month for the Muslims! In this battle, Mohammed and his followers killed at least 70 innocent merchants from the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and slaughtered several hundred soldiers who came forward to defend them.

Here God the "Merciful" is saying that all the non-believers deserve to be killed! In addition, God is conveniently commenting that whatever loot Mohammed has plundered is "lawful and good" because it was done in service to God. So murder, rape, plunder and destruction are all perfectly legal with the Muslim God as long as they are done in the name of Islam! Mohammed is also insidiously making himself seem very kind for having spared the lives of the prisoners, when in fact he only let them live so he could ransom their lives for more money. In today’s world this is called "taking hostages" and defines "Terrorism" of the worst kind.

4. (Koran 69:30-37) "(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat."

The above verses from the Koran prove that Muslims are specifically instructed not to tolerate unbelievers. It directly states that people who do not believe in Mohammed and the Islamic God are to be tortured and murdered.. Not only does this verse clearly implicate that unbelievers must be tortured and killed, it goes on further to state prescribed methods for committing torture. The horrific acts mentioned above are in practice even today in Islamic countries. In fact, in India, Muslims tortured the Sikh Gurus and their families exactly as prescribed by the Koran. For example, the Sikh guru Tegh Bahadur was imprisoned in a cage like a wild animal, when he refused to forsake his religion for Islam. Three of his disciples were murdered in front of his eyes. One of them was Bhai Mati Das. He was sawed alive into little pieces. The other was wrapped up in cotton and burnt alive. Bhai Dyala, the third one, was boiled alive in a cauldron. Guru Tegh Bahadur himself was brutally tortured and killed in a similar fashion. One wonders at the mercy of "The all beneficent Allah" who enjoys watching the roasted burnt flesh of hapless innocents falling off their bones.

5. (Koran 5: 33-34) "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is forgiving, merciful."

6. (Koran 22: 19-22) "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid will be poured down their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

7. (Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

The above verses clearly state extreme terrorist activities, as they contain nothing but detailed recipes of horrific torture. Cutting off the hands and feet of individuals and then making them walk and jump, pouring boiling waters over their victims, making them drink it, burning them alive, inserting hot iron rods into their bodies, dismemberment and disembowelment, genital mutilation etc. are common Islamic practices.

I have mentioned only a few of the verses from the Koran to show that Islam is nothing but an excuse to legalize terrorism, genocide, massacre and other criminal activities. Many other verses that demonstrate these specific qualities, are to be found throughout the Koran . As Muslims worldwide regard the Koran to be the ultimate holy book, it is followed to the word. Their daily lives are guided specifically by such passages from the Koran . Moreover, the terrorist, lecherous and criminal activities described in the Koran are considered to be the sacred words of God. Is it any wonder that mindless Muslims all over the world, justify their criminal activities of destruction, loot, torture, rape and murder by pointing to the Koran? They actually consider their acts to be holy and believe that for committing such holy acts they will go to paradise—a paradise where they will have plenty of wine, women and young boys for their sexual pleasure. (How Mohammed uses bribery in the Koran to attract mindless human beings is above the scope of this article and will be described in later ones).

Today, many followers of Islam such as Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, Momar Gaddafi, Louis Farrakhan, Yasser Arafat, Dawood Ibrahim, Abu Nidal, etc. are famed for the brutality of their crimes and terrorism. The entire world is marred by violence and murder, wherever Muslims reside. The entire world is suffering due to the barbaric activities of Islamic terrorists. Pick up a newspaper today and you will note that 98% of terrorist activities that occur involve Muslims. I have named a few of the countries below as examples:

(1) India - Muslims have been terrorizing this country since the 7th century AD. Muslim regimes throughout India have a record of unparalleled terror and torture described in gory detail by contemporary Muslim chronicles themselves. Subjecting all non-Muslims to abject atrocities, plundering their wealth, abducting their women and usurping their houses of worship to be used as mosques and tombs, has been considered sacred duty of every Muslim. Such acts earned for the tormentors the coveted title of Ghazi, to be paraded as a citation of great Islamic glory and greatness. Aurangzeb, one of the last Muslim emperors had 10,000 Hindus massacred everyday for an entire year. He alone was responsible for the massacre of at least 3,650,000 Hindus and destruction of more than 11,000 Hindu temples. William Durant, author of the voluminous "Story of Civilization" has described the Muslim conquests in India as constituting the saddest and goriest chapter in human history. Muslims have destroyed and looted the whole country and have killed countless innocent Hindus in the process.

The Muslims forced the violent partition of India into three parts in 1947 (India, West Pakistan and East Pakistan). Even today, they terrorize the innocent people of India by causing bomb blasts and killing innocent individuals. Currently, the followers of Islam are concentrating their efforts in Kashmir, a northern state in India. Kashmir has been the land of the Hindus since ancient times. The word Kashmir itself is derived from Rishi Kashyap—a great spiritual leader of Hinduism. The Muslims have destroyed this beautiful land completely. Today the Pakistan-sponsored Muslim terrorists continue to kill, torture and rape the innocent Hindus of Kashmir. To cite the most recent incidents: In a cold-blooded massacre on the night of January 25th 1998, 23 Kashmiri Hindus, including 10 women and four children, were gunned down by a group of Islamic terrorists from Pakistan in Wandhama, 27 km from Srinagar. On April 19th Islamic terrorists belonging to the Pakistani Lashkar-e-Tobia terrorist organization claimed responsibility for gunning down at least 13 Kashmiri Hindus in Prankot village near Mahore in Udhampur district. The victims included four women and two children. Pakistan’s aim is to separate Kashmir from India and declare it as an Islamic state. I will provide you with more information on Islamic terrorism in India and Kashmir in a separate article.

(2) The Assyrian Nation - The horrible crimes committed by Islamic terrorists against the Assyrian nation is a well documented fact. Between 1980 and 1988 the Iraqi regime exiled thousands of Iraqi citizens to Iran on the charges that they were of Persian ancestry. Many Assyrians were targeted in this illegal and barbarous act. During this bloody war, it is estimated that up to 10,000 Assyrian men from Iraq were killed. The most disturbing aspect of this tragedy is that many of these Assyrians were killed in cold blood by their own Arab countrymen, just for being Assyrians. On December 13th 1997, a group of militants belonging to the Kurdish Labour Party (PKK), treacherously attacked six Assyrians through an ambush laid for them in the district of Mangeesh-Duhok, Northern Iraq. Two of them were killed immediately and the others were wounded, then the armed group charged over them and cold-bloodedly killed the wounded.

Ever since the invasion of their homelands by barbaric Muslims, the Assyrians have been fighting for their rights. The persecution of Assyrian Christians by the Islamic terrorists has brought them to the brink of extinction!

(3) Bangladesh - Bangladesh was a part of India before the Muslim terrorists led by Mohammed Ali Jinnah separated it from India in 1947. It was then called East Pakistan. Jinnah lied to the thirteen million Hindus, Buddhists and Christians in East Pakistan and told them that they would not be persecuted against. He promised that they would be given full freedom under the Islamic rule. However, these religious minorities—especially the Hindus and the Buddhists have been tortured, raped and murdered by the pious Muslims ever since 1947. Over 2.5 million Hindus alone were slaughtered during the Pakistan-Bangladesh war in 1971. The types of crimes committed were perfectly in accordance with the Koran. Robert E. Burns, the author of Wrath of Allah states, "The mutilation was disgusting—eyes gouged out, pregnant women disemboweled, male genitals cut off, women’s breasts cut off….."

The persecution of "unbelievers" in the name of Allah , continues even today in Bangladesh under the Islamic rule. For example, Taslima Nasreen, the author of Lajja was given a death sentence for just stating the facts and speaking against the inhumane, cruel and barbaric nature of Islam.

(4) Egypt - Egypt has been terrorized by Muslims since the time of Umar II (8th Century AD.). With Umar’s raid on Egypt began the destruction of Egypt’s Christians. Their Churches were destroyed, Umar imposed Jizya—a special tax that was invented by Mohammed , where all the "non-believers" had to pay or face death. They lost ownership of all their land and had to pay a special land tax, kharaj, simply in order to use it . They were ridiculed, made to wear discriminatory clothing and were made to ride on donkeys. Anyone not complying with the wishes of the Islamic terrorists was tortured to death in absolute accordance with the Koran. The ongoing Islamic terrorist attacks on innocent people in Egypt even today prove that Islamic terrorism is alive and kicking in this country as well. In this country the tourists are special targets of the Muslim terrorists. Just last year in Cairo, the pious followers of Mohammed murdered an entire bus load of German tourists. In another incident, Muslim fundamentalists killed more than 40 tourists near the Pyramids.

The terrorists continue to commit these horrible crimes to achieve their goal of declaration of Egypt as an Islamic state. An Islamic state is desired by these terrorists, so that they will be able to commit more such crimes freely. As per the Koran, they will go to the typical Islamic Paradise for committing these "holy" acts! Apparently, the most important condition by far, for entering "Jannat" (Islamic Heaven) is that you must have the blood of innocents, stained on your hands!

(5) Algeria - Algeria has been under Islamic terrorist attack for quite some time now. Accurate casualty figures are difficult to acquire, but as many as 50,000 Algerians (militants, security personnel, and civilians) have died as a result of the nearly four-year-old insurgency. Even the U.S. embassy's warehouse was the target of Islamic terrorists. They set fire to the warehouse and threatened to kill the security guard just because he was working for the United States. The Islamic terrorist organization which carries out most of these attacks is called GIA (Algerian Armed Islamic Group). The GIA was responsible for the deaths of 31 foreigners in Algeria in 1995, compared to at least 64 in 1994. Most of the foreigners killed were "soft targets," such as teachers and nuns. Cowardly Islamic terrorists, conform to this pattern of targeting the most vulnerable and helpless segment of the population, in imitation of Prophet Mohammed's life. From July to October, a terrorist bombing campaign in France began against civilian targets, killing eight persons and wounding 160. And such attacks continue on even today in Algeria.

(6) Pakistan - Like East Pakistan (Bangladesh), Pakistan was also founded by the terrorist leader, Mohammed Ali Jinnah. Ever since its foundation, Pakistan has sponsored terrorism and Islamic terrorist groups all over the world. Pakistan’s main focus of terrorist activity has always been India. This nation is obsessed with the downfall of India and will do anything to accomplish this goal. It has gone to war with India three times in the past and failed miserably all three times. Pakistan continues to support Islamic terrorist organizations such as Harakat ul-Ansar (HUA) and Al-Faran. Al-Faran is the group that claimed responsibility for the kidnapping in Kashmir of two US citizens, two Britons, a German, and a Norwegian. Other Pakistan-backed groups have claimed responsibility for numerous bombings in Kashmir, including one against foreign journalists.

It is a well-known fact today that Pakistan is an Islamic terrorist state. The mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing hailed from Pakistan. The Islamic terrorists in Kashmir are trained and supplied by Pakistan. There is even proof that Pakistan is supporting and helping the Taliban—the barbaric Islamic organization of Afghanistan.

Many other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Syria, Indonesia, Israel, Libya, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Mauritania, Cyprus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, etc. can be added to the above list.

As we can clearly see Muslims are actively committing acts of terrorism in many other parts of the world and justifying it by pointing towards the Koran. Even the West is not untouched anymore. The fact that countries such as the U.K, U.S.A and France have already experienced Islamic terrorism first hand is a testament to this. It remains to be seen whether countries such as these will learn from the past and recognize Islam for what it is—a religious sanction to legalize barbaric and horrific crimes! I urge each and everyone to read the Koran, the terrorist's instruction manual, for their own personal safety. It is necessary to know what you are up against before you can begin to defend yourself.

This is just a simple introduction to Islamic terrorism. I intend to post more such articles that contain many more such proofs to show that Islam is nothing but an excuse to legalize terrorist activities and other such crimes. In order to realize this, one must first understand that Islam itself was founded for the sole purpose of terrorizing, subjugating, massacring and torturing non-Muslims in the name of Allah. Mohammed, the founder of Islam composed the entire Koran in order to justify his terrorist activities and crimes by false Divine injunctions.

http://www.shaka.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/terrorist1.html

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"Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

This actually says that God or Allah or whatever, is the terrorist. The bible is just as filled with all this divine smiting and terrorizing of any poor unbelievers.

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Meanwhile, in the US, there's a demand that you fit in and drop your old-world thoughts and cutures behind you at the door.
You phrase that in pejorative terms. We have a country that is the wonder of the world in its unity. Many Canadians resent the patriotism of Americans.

I wouldn't trade a united country, composed of many different and diverse elements for the world.

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This actually says that God or Allah or whatever, is the terrorist. The bible is just as filled with all this divine smiting and terrorizing of any poor unbelievers.

Try reading the the Old Testament. God was pretty nasty back then.

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You phrase that in pejorative terms. We have a country that is the wonder of the world in its unity. Many Canadians resent the patriotism of Americans.

I wouldn't trade a united country, composed of many different and diverse elements for the world.

That is exactly the problem. We aren't united at all, there is very little unity to speak of whatsoever. That is is the underlying issue that prompted me to start this topic.

Multiculturalism is a form of segregation not integration. The majority of new immigrants do not interact with any culture outside of their own. Each settling in their own area of their respective cities and not integrating into society. With integration they'd be able to better share their culture with the masses and better help the majority understand them in turn enriching this country. As it stands now that is not happening as each ethnic group simply resides within their own respective communities and ventures out very seldom. To see the multicultural agenda as a success and flawless and not in need of improvment is to me naive.

I'm not thinking of today but twenty years down the road. If we continue in this matter all of our major cities could be divided by racial lines. A sort of tribalism. As these self segregated ethnic communities will only grow as the majority of our current immigration is from the second and third world and the government gives us no indication that this is to change. Racially and/or religiously divided cities does not give me a sense of unity I'm sorry. Perhaps my sense of unity differs from others.

I don't see this as unity at all but a failed experiment that is in and of itself a very old idea to begin with that is in need of a face lift and an up to date application.

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I am old enough to have experienced several generations of immigrants settling in Canada, it usually takes until the third generation before we see full integration, by the fourth generation most of its youth cannot speak its mother tongue. Muslims refuse to assimilate and isolate themselves. It is not unusual in Europe for Muslims not being able to speak a nation’s national language despite being born in that country. Most of the youth rioting in Europe are third and fourth generation Muslims.

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Well...then we agree. This city was snoresville in the 60's . First Rochdale, then the immigrants.

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Thank you for confirming that people on the Left hated Canada and Canadians.

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