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Posted (edited)

How can this be in Canada? It is beyond the pale that such a circumstance could exist in modern day Canada, where laws on animal cruelty have not been updated sincr the 19th century.

The International Fund for Animal Welfare issued a report comparing Canada's animal cruelty laws to the following countries': Austria, Canada, Croatia, Great Britain, Germany, Malaysia, New Zealand, Norway, the Philippines, Poland, Portugal, South Africa, Switzerland and the Ukraine.

It placed last. Even behind Portugal and the Ukraine. That's bad.

Canada is alone in offering virtually no protection for wild and stray animals

- Canada's legislation does not include a clear definition of 'animal' while other countries are explicit

- Canada is the only country that does not provide protection for animals being trained to fight each other

- Canada is the only country that makes is virtually impossible to prosecute cases of neglect.

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=817203

Please Canada, join the current century and Animal Planet hype today! What are you waiting for?

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted

This is almost an intelligent post by you BC! Too bad it is tongue in cheek. Longer than your usual one liners though... keep up the hard work!

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Posted

Hmmm. Must be why we keep getting all the sadistic American "hunters" up here. Remember the guy who's not allowed back in Canada, ever, because he was doing things like shooting birds from a moving-car, not going to pick up the carcasses, amongst other heart-warming practices.

Time to write my MP a letter. Thanks for bringing this to my attention BC.

It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands

Posted
...Time to write my MP a letter. Thanks for bringing this to my attention BC.

No problem...Canada is famous around the world for unchecked cruelty to animals. Even the Vancouver Zoo abuses animals on a regular basis:

Vancouver - A commercial zoo was charged on Wednesday with animal cruelty for keeping a baby hippopotamus alone for 19 months in a small, dark shed on a concrete floor.

"Even inmates in prison don't spend their lives alone," said Eileen Drever, the animal protection constable who investigated the zoo.

It is shocking that Canada refuses to protect poor defenseless animals with adequate legislation. Good thing the animals don't need passports at the border to escape torture.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted

BC, it's so nice to see genuine concern for the well-being of Canadian animals from you.

It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands

Posted

You're absolutely right BC, in general our laws concerning animal cruelty are disgraceful and are long overdue for an overhaul.

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

Posted
You're absolutely right BC, in general our laws concerning animal cruelty are disgraceful and are long overdue for an overhaul.

I wrote about this issue a while back...particularly comparing the disparity in penalties depending on whether the animal is classified as "cattle" or not.

Animal Cruelty Laws Too Soft?

I hadn't previously noted that training an animal to fight would not be criminal in spite of the fact that merely being present at an animal fight can be.

However, there is no reason that I can see that cases of neglect would be difficult to prosecute given the following specific prohibition:

446(1) Everyone commits an offence who © being the owner or the person having the custody or control of a domestic animal or a bird or an animal or a bird wild by nature that is in captivity, abandons it in distress or wilfully neglects or fails to provide suitable and adequate food, water, shelter and care for it;

FTA

Posted

I think as in so many things, it is the result. As the maximum penalty for animal cruelty is 6 months and or $2000 fine, many want it to be more severe, others would just be happy if actual sentences came anywhere near to that maximum on a fairly regular basis.

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

Posted

We do have to revamp our laws concerning animal cruelty. That little sh*t who shot the movie of the cat being skinned alive attained almost celebrity status. In fact he was invited to the Toronto film festival because of his "groundbreaking work of art".

I yam what I yam - Popeye

Posted

Hand him over to me... I'll flay the sonofabitch myself!

Angus, I'd not heard of this (kinda glad I didn't see it) but I would like to find out what, if any punishment occured and whether or not it really did get shown as "art" in TO.

...jealous much?

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Posted
We do have to revamp our laws concerning animal cruelty. That little sh*t who shot the movie of the cat being skinned alive attained almost celebrity status. In fact he was invited to the Toronto film festival because of his "groundbreaking work of art".

One wonders what might happen to this guy if convicted.

Man beats pup to death with hammer

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

Guest American Woman
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Hand him over to me... I'll flay the sonofabitch myself!

Angus, I'd not heard of this (kinda glad I didn't see it) but I would like to find out what, if any punishment occured and whether or not it really did get shown as "art" in TO.

Film detailing cat's torture, death set for festival despite outrage

Power, an ex-vegetarian who once worked in a slaughterhouse, said he intended to eat the cat after he killed it, but one of his roommates called police upon discovering the head in the refrigerator.

In court, Power's attorneys said he intended the video to be an art project showing the hypocrisy of society for allowing the killing of some animals for meat, but not others.

Power and his friend Anthony Wennekers, 22, pleaded guilty to animal cruelty and mischief charges midway through their 2001 trial.

Power was handed a 90-day sentence, to be served on weekends, followed by 18 months of house arrest. Wennekers was sentenced to time served and released after 11 months in custody.

The third cohort, Matthew Kaczorowski, became a fugitive for 18 months until his arrest in April 2003. He pleaded guilty to one charge of mischief and was sentenced to four months in prison and three years' probation.

Posted (edited)

That is so utterly sickening. I am going home to hug my cat... he is a living, breathing little friend and I would not hesitate to harm anyone who would dare hurt him.

Some animals are pets. Some animals are food. Sometimes the line is blended but NEVER is it ok to purposefully cause a creature pain and suffering.

and because one eats meat does not mean they condone cruelty, bc 2004. And only idiots wear fur.

On the ranch, we'd shoot the cow before we'd eat her. My father would bring home a moose every year and we'd skin it and hang it. Never did I see a rancher or hunter cause a creature pain and suffering.

Edited to add: I finally got the link opened... AW it so sickens me that there are people on this earth that would deliberately do this.

When I am a little old lady ready to die I am going to go on a killing spree and murder as many of this type of person as I can get my scrawing old gnarly hands on. It's the least I can do.

Edited by Drea

...jealous much?

Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee

Posted
....the hypocrisy of society for allowing the killing of some animals for meat, but not others.

That is a good point...

Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable.

- Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")

Guest American Woman
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QUOTE: ....the hypocrisy of society for allowing the killing of some animals for meat, but not others.

That is a good point...

Don't know about killing cats for meat, but it's not against the law in Canada to kill dogs for meat:

There is no law against selling and serving canine meat, including dogs, but it must be killed and gutted in front of federal inspectors. link

There's a difference between "butchering" and "animal abuse."

And evidently it's not against the law to use dogs or cats in pet food.

Pet food firm turns back on dog and cat meat

Bowing to public concern that Fido might end up eating Fluffy, a Canadian company has decided to stop mixing meat from dead dogs and cats into its processed pet food.

Quebec rendering giant Sanimal, which used to process the meat from about 18,200kg of dead cats and dogs a week, said it was no longer accepting the carcasses of domestic animals, many of which had come from Canadian animal shelters.

This is just disgusting:

...petshop owner Paul Latendresse said Sanimal's decision would pose new problems for veterinaries who will face hefty fees to dispose of euthanised cats and dogs -- rendering plants charged only a modest fee for that.

"It will change things for veterinaries, it will be much more expensive for them now to bury or incinerate domestic animals," said Latendresse, owner of the Quebec City petshop Animalerie Boutique Tropicale.

Vets were selling the bodies of cats and dogs for pet food that people paid them to euthanize? :blink:

Edited by American Woman
Posted
Vets were selling the bodies of cats and dogs for pet food that people paid them to euthanize? :blink:

If it were you would you really care where they put it after the euthanasia? I dont find that strange.

Posted
That is a good point...

No its not, its also very simplistic to believe it is. As for this little sh*t, he was making excuses to justify his inhumane sadistic behaviour. Go ahead though, encourage such garbage to continue in their ways.

I yam what I yam - Popeye

Posted

I knock down more than a few animals every year.

Some for food and some because they need to be killed and yes some for sport.

And yes I enjoy the kill as much as I enjoy the chase.

It is fine to rant about the actions of a few who are definitely not main stream people.

It is not fine to claim the laws need to be changed because of these same people.

Rest assured those new laws will be applied in ways they were not intended.

Some lawyer, some where, will make a lot of money and some judge, some where, will allow changes to be made which will affect us in a manner we cannot today predict.

You may not be able to eat affordable meat if things go as some would wish. To some this will not matter. To others it will. But when the laws prevent us from growing grains because we affect some form of wild life - we are treading on dangerous ground - and do not think this is a wild idea - it has been attempted and is being attempted today.

Beware of what you ask for and beware of profiteers in the animal protection gig and legal schisters who would strive to make these changes - often for reasons of money - camoflauged by heart rending crocodile tears.

Borg

Posted
Bowing to public concern that Fido might end up eating Fluffy, a Canadian company has decided to stop mixing meat from dead dogs and cats into its processed pet food.

Isn't that how we wound up with BSE in cattle?

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

Posted (edited)
Ya think?

First yah shoot it in the head. One shot. Instant death.

Then yah slit the throat and hang the carcass upside down and let it bleed out.

Then yah skin it.... hate that part!

Then yah take it down and hack it into steaks, roasts, etc. Yummm.

Nothing cruel about that.

Sadistically causing an animal pain is NOT the same as killing it because you need to feed your family.

Edited by Drea

...jealous much?

Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee

Guest American Woman
Posted
QUOTE=American Woman @ Mar 7 2008, 01:52 PM:

Vets were selling the bodies of cats and dogs for pet food that people paid them to euthanize? :blink:

If it were you would you really care where they put it after the euthanasia? I dont find that strange.

Yeah, actually I would care. Very much! I seriously thought they buried them. The idea of them ending up in pet food is absolutely appalling to me.

Posted
Yeah, actually I would care. Very much! I seriously thought they buried them. The idea of them ending up in pet food is absolutely appalling to me.

Could be, but in the US, I think a majority are incinerated. The clinical / medical waste stream readily accomodates the remains of pets.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
Yeah, actually I would care. Very much! I seriously thought they buried them. The idea of them ending up in pet food is absolutely appalling to me.

I would imagine for the cost of the euthansia of said pet, it didnt include a burial. I honestly did not ask where it went when I had to euthanize my dog. (went mean and attacked people)

I dont recall any problems with this, other than the China pet food scandal , so I imagine it is and was pretty safe. Perhaps not to everyones liking, but ethically I did not see anything wrong with it.

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