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Just want your opinion of what this group of people are all about. I've heard several times that this group is behind the World order and they think they have to reduce the population of the world down 80 billion because there's to many people to feed. Ways of doing this is by wars, making sure there not enough food supply, creating diseases to kill and the list goes on. No one really wants to believe this but after 9/11 there shouldn't be any more surprises about governments will do or have done. This group was started in Holland after the WW2, so does that mean Europe will be the one to control the world?? I don't think the US will go along with that BUT the US is inching closer to a depression what better way to take countries out.

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Just want your opinion of what this group of people are all about. I've heard several times that this group is behind the World order and they think they have to reduce the population of the world down 80 billion because there's to many people to feed. Ways of doing this is by wars, making sure there not enough food supply, creating diseases to kill and the list goes on. No one really wants to believe this but after 9/11 there shouldn't be any more surprises about governments will do or have done. This group was started in Holland after the WW2, so does that mean Europe will be the one to control the world?? I don't think the US will go along with that BUT the US is inching closer to a depression what better way to take countries out.

Hold on...when I get home I will ask my toaster....

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Posted
Just want your opinion of what this group of people are all about. I've heard several times that this group is behind the World order and they think they have to reduce the population of the world down 80 billion because there's to many people to feed. Ways of doing this is by wars, making sure there not enough food supply, creating diseases to kill and the list goes on. No one really wants to believe this but after 9/11 there shouldn't be any more surprises about governments will do or have done. This group was started in Holland after the WW2, so does that mean Europe will be the one to control the world?? I don't think the US will go along with that BUT the US is inching closer to a depression what better way to take countries out.

I think at one time this group may have had some influence, as it was pretty low key. Now, when they meet, it is announced to the press. So how dangerous could they be now? Just the rich and powerful getting together for a spa weekend in some expensive fancy place. And maybe an intimidation tactic or even better, a diversion from the real group who are meeting elsewhere the same weekend.

The idea of secret committee's or what have you, certainly interest me Topaz, but the chances of us finding out who they are and their agenda, is pretty remote.

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That'll be some trick.

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Karl: Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?

Lenny: Who keeps the Martians under wraps?

Alien: We do! We do!

---The Stonecutter's Song: The Simpsons

Naw, all they would need is a few dirty bombs placed in large populated places and presto, poof, gone. Of course, low resource areas of the world would be hit first.

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Naw, all they would need is a few dirty bombs placed in large populated places and presto, poof, gone. Of course, low resource areas of the world would be hit first.

Uhhh...80 billion? Seems we'd be in a bit of a negative situation.

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Posted (edited)
Uhhh...80 billion? Seems we'd be in a bit of a negative situation.

I was wondering if someone would notice that. Doesn't matter to the conspiracy crowd. Any number is good and any fantasy is true when the shiney hat goes on the head.

Edited by AngusThermopyle

I yam what I yam - Popeye

Posted (edited)
Hold on...when I get home I will ask my toaster....

Oh come on Morris, we all know it's your microwave that you confer with and not the toaster. Of course, what is less known is that your first stick your head in it and then turn in on - I guess this increases the volume so you can hear its all powerful humming voice!

;)

For those who think that the likes of Kissinger, various Rockefellers, leading CEO's of huge monopolies (ie coca-cola, KBR), monarchs and the like have NO influence, well... you might want to check your micro power setting as it's possible that brain liquification has indeed occurred!

:blink:

Edited by buffycat

"An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi

Posted

Bilderberg' the ultimate power lobby!

except they don't have to "lobby" they set the agenda!

Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).

Posted
Bilderberg' the ultimate power lobby!

except they don't have to "lobby" they set the agenda!

Kuzadd, have you been talking to the toaster too???

;)

:D

*snicker*

"An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi

Posted (edited)
Kuzadd, have you been talking to the toaster too???

;)

:D

*snicker*

;)

Yes, imagine that rich , powerful people having the ear of the governments?

When we know, it is the peons that really matter.

:D

Edited by kuzadd

Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).

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Hold on...when I get home I will ask my toaster....

I thought those waves came through the bridges on my teeth :)-

The Bilderbergers are simply a group of business men who meet to discuss - guess what - business. Nothing nefarious, but of course the conspiracy nuts love to turn anything that tends to be secretive into some major conspiracy... oooohhh booga booga

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Posted (edited)
I thought those waves came through the bridges on my teeth :)-

The Bilderbergers are simply a group of business men who meet to discuss - guess what - business. Nothing nefarious, but of course the conspiracy nuts love to turn anything that tends to be secretive into some major conspiracy... oooohhh booga booga

Name Calling:

Name calling occurs often in politics and wartime scenarios, but very seldom in advertising. It is another of the seven main techniques designated by the Institute for Propaganda Analysis. It is the use of derogatory language or words that carry a negative connotation when describing an enemy. The propaganda attempts to arouse prejudice among the public by labeling the target something that the public dislikes. Often, name calling is employed using sarcasm and ridicule, and shows up often in political cartoons or writings. When examining name calling propaganda, we should attempt to separate our feelings about the name and our feelings about the actual idea or proposal.

propaganda lesson of the day!

can we pick out the words in scribletts response that demonstrate this technique?

any other posters using this technique?

I am grading on the quality of responses! :)

Edited by kuzadd

Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).

Posted
I thought those waves came through the bridges on my teeth :)-

The Bilderbergers are simply a group of business men who meet to discuss - guess what - business. Nothing nefarious, but of course the conspiracy nuts love to turn anything that tends to be secretive into some major conspiracy... oooohhh booga booga

But isn't business our problem, why should they control information of what these people are doing, especially when we, the tax payers, foot the bill.

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But isn't business our problem, why should they control information of what these people are doing, especially when we, the tax payers, foot the bill.

what's rather amazing is scribs, doesn't seem to think that any decisions made by "business" people affect regular people.

spew pollution: doesn't affect?

shift production: no affect

abuse workers: no affect

lobby governments for changes to laws that benefit the population: no affect at all on the population?

trade agreements

environmental laws

and on and on.

doesn't have anything to do with the population at alll!!!!

Of course one would have to wonder why any Canadian politician bother attending, this groups meetings, as unifluential as they are??

I am hoping Stephen Harper will come out to my neighbourhood watch meeting, it is very , very important to me!!!! :lol:

Edited by kuzadd

Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).

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But isn't business our problem, why should they control information of what these people are doing, especially when we, the tax payers, foot the bill.

Sure business dealings can affect us, not just the Bilderbergers. All organizations control information, it's normal.

Since when do taxpayers foot the bill for Bilderbergers, at least other than security I suppose, but that goes for all famous or infamous people.

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Sure business dealings can affect us, not just the Bilderbergers. All organizations control information, it's normal.

Since when do taxpayers foot the bill for Bilderbergers, at least other than security I suppose, but that goes for all famous or infamous people.

Scribblet when another poster on here goes to all the trouble to protest people processing their own food, isn't that directed by big business. We all know that for every person who grows and processed their own food big business lose dollars. Just this morning there is a discussion of the news about a drink that coca cola is selling that says children under 18 should not be drinking it. This is in very fine print of course and then would you believe it is sold in some high schools.

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Scribblet when another poster on here goes to all the trouble to protest people processing their own food, isn't that directed by big business. We all know that for every person who grows and processed their own food big business lose dollars. Just this morning there is a discussion of the news about a drink that coca cola is selling that says children under 18 should not be drinking it. This is in very fine print of course and then would you believe it is sold in some high schools.

Don't know to whom you are referring, I highly doubt that any poster on here is directed by big business, it's just an opinion.

I will say that not all kitchens are created equal, I no longer buy home made bottled preserves etc. in country markets as the kitchens are not inspected and so on.

Are our kitchens sterile and do we take all the necessary precautions to prevent food poisoning, I kinda doubt that we are always on top of things. Are all sure that out food processing areas are clear of contamination by bacteria, and do we always use the most effective disinfectant methods on a daily basis?

I agree that processed food is not always desirable or good for us, and that we need clearer labelling as to where it really comes from., so to that end we can fight for better rules etc. but we cannot take away big business, get rid of big business, you get of jobs, the economy etc.

We cannot go back to the days of us all living off the land, there are too many of us and not enough arable land, besides, I personally have no desire to live on a farm without all my amenities, I'm sure many of feel that way, but it doesn't mean we are involved with big business.

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Don't know to whom you are referring, I highly doubt that any poster on here is directed by big business, it's just an opinion.

I will say that not all kitchens are created equal, I no longer buy home made bottled preserves etc. in country markets as the kitchens are not inspected and so on.

WHERE DO YOU LIVE SCRIBLETT, NO ONE IN ONTARIO IS ALLOWED TO SELL AT FARMERS MARKEST WITHOUT AN INSPECTION OF THEIR KITCHENS.

Are our kitchens sterile and do we take all the necessary precautions to prevent food poisoning, I kinda doubt that we are always on top of things. Are all sure that out food processing areas are clear of contamination by bacteria, and do we always use the most effective disinfectant methods on a daily basis?

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT WE ARE TOO STERILE. APARTMENT KIDS IN THE CITY PICK UP MANY MORE INFECTIONS AND SICKNESS THAT KIDS ON FARMS. YOU NEED TO BUILD UP IMMUNITIES TO BUGS AND HAVING ANIMALS AROUND FOR INSTANCE HELPS THAT PROCESS.

I agree that processed food is not always desirable or good for us, and that we need clearer labelling as to where it really comes from., so to that end we can fight for better rules etc. but we cannot take away big business, get rid of big business, you get of jobs, the economy etc.

NO BUT WE CAN MAKE MORE OF AN EFFORT TO PROTECT WHAT WE HAVE. BIG BUSINESS FOUGHT THE BANNING OF TRANS FATS FOR INSTANCE. TO CLAIM THAT WE NEED JOBS EVEN IF IT MIGHT KILL US TO KEEP THEM IS A STRANGE ARGUMENT.

We cannot go back to the days of us all living off the land, there are too many of us and not enough arable land, besides, I personally have no desire to live on a farm without all my amenities, I'm sure many of feel that way, but it doesn't mean we are involved with big business.

WHAT AMENITIES ARE FARMS LACKING? please read answers in your text.

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I thought those waves came through the bridges on my teeth :)-

The Bilderbergers are simply a group of business men who meet to discuss - guess what - business. Nothing nefarious, but of course the conspiracy nuts love to turn anything that tends to be secretive into some major conspiracy... oooohhh booga booga

That's not exactly true, over half the people invited are world leaders who have control over governments.

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WHAT AMENITIES ARE FARMS LACKING? please read answers in your text.

TO CLAIM THAT WE NEED JOBS EVEN IF IT MIGHT KILL US TO KEEP THEM IS A STRANGE ARGUMENT.

Where did I say that?

Do farms have high speed internet, natural gas, sewers and town water?

Lets just put it this way, I'm not a farm girl, I live in the Ontario boonies now and would leave in a heartbeat if hubby agreed to it. Biggest mistake I ever made moving away from everything.

I wasn't aware the rules had changed for farmer's markets; I thought they were exempted under the Food Premises Regulation. Are their kitchens inspected under the same health guidelines as restaurants etc. and other places? I thought they could only sell preserves etc. behind their own gates, not in a public market....do you have any links?

Edited by scriblett

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