I am proud to be white!

[Archangel]

Hi, I'm not sure if you could call me a white nationalist or not. Perhaps I should start by saying I USED to be the biggest anti, PC, liberal girl there was. I used to daydream about being anything but white,- black, Asian, Native Indian you name it. Massive case of white guilt, I hated being white or so I thought...

What really set me on the road to my complete turnaround was going into message boards for other races, seeing them ramble on and on about how much they hate whitey, seen all kinds of sickening garbage written about us and at the same time claim how racist we are, talk about hypocrites..man dear....they actually claimed it wasn't possible for them to be racist against whites...WTF?????? The funniest thing I read was in an native Indian forum where one them actually put us down for having a work ethic, and went on to say how they(meaning indians in general) don't have any and they were proud of this fact! Point is this little white girl started to get angry and began to feel a bit of pride, ofcourse there was lot's of other things that contributed, but I wont get into to all of them it would take forever to list them.

Am I a white nationalist, I don't know but I will say that I'm white and damn proud of it, I love our culture and our History. I'm sick to death of us being crapped on by non whites, of the fact that they are encouraged to be proud of their heritage and to keep it alive and if we even give the slightest hint they we are anything but utterly ashamed of our race we must be nazi's, I hate how they can have everything from colleges to scholarships etc etc specifically just for them but if we did that it would be racism.

I don't consider myself a racist, I don't hate anybody just for the colour of their skin, I judge them by the same stick I judge white people but at the same time I think all this BS about how we're all equal and the same is just that..BS.. We do have our cultural difference's and I will not respect other cultures unless they give me a freaking reason to respect them. I'm supposed respect a culture that oppresses woman and murder's innocent people?? - um sorry don't think so!

Im sick of the double standards and am proud to be white.

[Who's Doing What?]

"Reverse Racism" is the term for what you encountered. We have run into the same situation on these boards where people have the misconception that to be a racist you had to be white. With the exception of one particular poster the most racist posts I have read on this forum are from people who have identified themselves with a particular minority.

Welcome to the boards.

[cybercoma]

Yes, you're showing such strength by being proud to be white.... I mean, with how oppressed white people are and all. It takes real strength to find pride in your race when the whole world seems to be against you.

[charter.rights]

Hi, I'm not sure if you could call me a white nationalist or not. Perhaps I should start by saying I USED to be the biggest anti, PC, liberal girl there was. I used to daydream about being anything but white,- black, Asian, Native Indian you name it. Massive case of white guilt, I hated being white or so I thought...

What really set me on the road to my complete turnaround was going into message boards for other races, seeing them ramble on and on about how much they hate whitey, seen all kinds of sickening garbage written about us and at the same time claim how racist we are, talk about hypocrites..man dear....they actually claimed it wasn't possible for them to be racist against whites...WTF?????? The funniest thing I read was in an native Indian forum where one them actually put us down for having a work ethic, and went on to say how they(meaning indians in general) don't have any and they were proud of this fact! Point is this little white girl started to get angry and began to feel a bit of pride, ofcourse there was lot's of other things that contributed, but I wont get into to all of them it would take forever to list them.

Am I a white nationalist, I don't know but I will say that I'm white and damn proud of it, I love our culture and our History. I'm sick to death of us being crapped on by non whites, of the fact that they are encouraged to be proud of their heritage and to keep it alive and if we even give the slightest hint they we are anything but utterly ashamed of our race we must be nazi's, I hate how they can have everything from colleges to scholarships etc etc specifically just for them but if we did that it would be racism.

I don't consider myself a racist, I don't hate anybody just for the colour of their skin, I judge them by the same stick I judge white people but at the same time I think all this BS about how we're all equal and the same is just that..BS.. We do have our cultural difference's and I will not respect other cultures unless they give me a freaking reason to respect them. I'm supposed respect a culture that oppresses woman and murder's innocent people?? - um sorry don't think so!

Im sick of the double standards and am proud to be white.

A "white nationalist" = "white supremacist" according to Stormfront. Do you have the albino gene? Because there really is no such thing as a white person per se. We're all just different shades of brown. That really doesn't give you any credibility. It simply levels you to "nothing special".

Edited January 26, 2008 by charter.rights

[iForgot]

White Pride = Good, in fact I encourage it

White Nationalism = White Supremacy

Its a sad sad thing, how many foolish people like Archangel who simply want to be proud of their race will be molded into bigots by sites like Stormfront. Stormfront is not White Pride, it is White Power.

[Drea]

People basing "pride" or whatever racist stereotype on something as innocuous as the amount of melanin found in one's skin.... really... think about it!

"Race" becomes truly meaningless when thought of in this regard.

[guyser]

Great!

So you sought websites that railed against your colour to cure you of your liberal ,anti, PC ways.

I will not respect other cultures unless they give me a freaking reason to respect them

Sad ,but not surprised. Mensa ?

[iForgot]

People basing "pride" or whatever racist stereotype on something as innocuous as the amount of melanin found in one's skin.... really... think about it!

"Race" becomes truly meaningless when thought of in this regard.

Race goes beyond skin color.....

[jefferiah]

Yes, you're showing such strength by being proud to be white.... I mean, with how oppressed white people are and all. It takes real strength to find pride in your race when the whole world seems to be against you.

Cybercoma, do you generally react to someone who says they are proud to be black?

[jefferiah]

People basing "pride" or whatever racist stereotype on something as innocuous as the amount of melanin found in one's skin.... really... think about it!

"Race" becomes truly meaningless when thought of in this regard.

So then you would say this same thing to anyone who says they are proud to be black?

[Wild Bill]

I'm not at all ashamed of being an old white guy. I had no control over the genes which spawned me so the idea of pride or shame seems kinda silly.

I AM proud of what I've done and what I can do!

Particularly the fact that I can make a bitchin' tube guitar amp to make ANY style of guitarist sound his best!

Racial pride to me seems just another form of tribalism, where you take your pride from the accomplishments of your tribe 'cuz you kinda lack any accomplishments of your own.

[jefferiah]

Racial pride to me seems just another form of tribalism, where you take your pride from the accomplishments of your tribe 'cuz you kinda lack any accomplishments of your own.

True enough.

[DogOnPorch]

Proud to be part of Western Civilization.

My cat has more rights than some folks elsewhere on the planet.

I'm supposed respect a culture that oppresses woman and murder's innocent people?? - um sorry don't think so!

I agree 100%. I'm quite tired of PC types feeding us sh*t and telling us it's ice cream.

1) Chinese Fur Markets...yuck...seen these?

2) Suicide Bombers

3) 'Honor' Killings and Women's Rights

4) Infanticide

5) Beheadings

6) No Pollution Laws

7) Caste Systems

8) Weapons Before Schools

9) Etc Etc Etc

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Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos.

---Will Durant

[gc1765]

Race goes beyond skin color.....

Not really. If other races looked exactly like us, I doubt you could tell them apart.

[DogOnPorch]

What really set me on the road to my complete turnaround was going into message boards for other races, seeing them ramble on and on about how much they hate whitey, seen all kinds of sickening garbage written about us and at the same time claim how racist we are, talk about hypocrites..man dear....they actually claimed it wasn't possible for them to be racist against whites...WTF??????

Sounds like this one site I used to post at...then it changed...now it's mostly just sick garbage. Discover Vancouver

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In world history, those who have helped to build the same culture are not necessarily of one race, and those of the same race have not all participated in one culture.

---Ruth Fulton Benedict

[james rahn]

Don't be defined by other people's standards. Responsibility is an individual thing.

[kimmy]

People basing "pride" or whatever racist stereotype on something as innocuous as the amount of melanin found in one's skin.... really... think about it!

"Race" becomes truly meaningless when thought of in this regard.

Do you have the albino gene? Because there really is no such thing as a white person per se. We're all just different shades of brown. That really doesn't give you any credibility. It simply levels you to "nothing special".

So, affirmative action programs, "sensitivity training", university programs based on the premise of racial relations and white privilege, these are all obsolete now, because we're all just different shades of brown?

Awesome!

But what about the people who've made careers of complaining about white people in loud, strident, and often inflammatory manner? What'll they do now?

-k

[Guest American Woman]

So, affirmative action programs, "sensitivity training", university programs based on the premise of racial relations and white privilege, these are all obsolete now, because we're all just different shades of brown?

Affirmative action programs aren't just based on race-- they are based on economic background too, which includes many "white" people.

Edited January 26, 2008 by American Woman

[kimmy]

Affirmative action programs aren't just based on race-- they are based on economic background too, which includes many "white" people.

Well, be that as it may... what do you think the response would be if we presented Drea and Charter-Rights' position to serious academics or social theorists?

-k

[Drea]

I'm proud to be 5'2"!

All 5'2" people are better'n other people....trust me on this, we are friendly and make the bestest best friends. Tall people are mean. LOL

see how much nonsense this is? Feeling pride for something we have no control over ourselves. It's so silly.

Culture (and religion or lack thereof) plays much more of a role in shaping a person's attitude, education, and intelligence than the level of one's melatonin.

[charter.rights]

So, affirmative action programs, "sensitivity training", university programs based on the premise of racial relations and white privilege, these are all obsolete now, because we're all just different shades of brown?

Awesome!

But what about the people who've made careers of complaining about white people in loud, strident, and often inflammatory manner? What'll they do now?

-k

Nah. Those are based on cultural differences and the propensity in the past was for white anglo males to dominate the workforce and make all the rules. We have affirmative action type programs for women too but you don't see us implying the gender differences are gone even if the women's skin colour is the same. The problem is that all those years where whitey was in charge he built rules that restricted minorities and women from HIS jobs. Now it is necessary to tip the scales in the other direction in order to find a balance. Right now with the top two contenders for the next President the democrats have put a woman and a minority in the running. I would say we are pretty much where we needed to be.

[Guest American Woman]

Well, be that as it may... what do you think the response would be if we presented Drea and Charter-Rights' position to serious academics or social theorists?

-k

I don't think we're all merely shades of brown, if that's what you're asking.

But I was pointing out a common misconception-- that AA programs are all based on race, making them totally unfair to whites. They aren't based on race as much as they are based opportunity (or more precisely, lack thereof), and that would include people of all races/colors. So even if we were all just 'different shades of brown,' there would still be a need for AA programs. That was my only point.

[kimmy]

Nah. Those are based on cultural differences and the propensity in the past was for white anglo males to dominate the workforce and make all the rules. We have affirmative action type programs for women too but you don't see us implying the gender differences are gone even if the women's skin colour is the same. The problem is that all those years where whitey was in charge he built rules that restricted minorities and women from HIS jobs. Now it is necessary to tip the scales in the other direction in order to find a balance. Right now with the top two contenders for the next President the democrats have put a woman and a minority in the running. I would say we are pretty much where we needed to be.

What minorities?

Now that we're all brown (in different shades) there are no minorities. We're all one big happy majority!

-k

[kimmy]

I don't think we're all merely shades of brown, if that's what you're asking.

But I was pointing out a common misconception-- that AA programs are all based on race, making them totally unfair to whites. They aren't based on race as much as they are based opportunity (or more precisely, lack thereof), and that would include people of all races/colors. So even if we were all just 'different shades of brown,' there would still be a need for AA programs. That was my only point.

That's cool. I wasn't attempting to open a debate on the validity of such programs, I was just pointing out the logical consequences of Drea and C.R's position. It seems to me that peoples' position on race often morphs to match whether it's convenient or inconvenient to their political views.

-k

[charter.rights]

Well, be that as it may... what do you think the response would be if we presented Drea and Charter-Rights' position to serious academics or social theorists?

-k

Most of them are saying "cool!"

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