VIV3LAR3VOLUTION Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0826/p01s03-woeu.html scrap the GST, raise the gas tax. Less cars on the road, no more GST. Maybe its too easy, or too logical i dunno Quote It's easy, when you Google it.
Borg Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 To compare Europe to us is not even a close call. Far too different. Just another piece by someone who is not thinking. Borg Quote
kengs333 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Gas prices are nowhere near what they need to be. North Americans have had it too good and it's time for this to change. Mobility is not a right, and in many ways has been detrimental to our society other than from the pollution side of the equation. Whatever the case, we were warned that these times were coming and not many people wanted to listen; now they have no choice. Hopefully now people will start thinking more about wasting resources like oil, start thinking about ways to live that have less of an impact on the planet. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 .... Hopefully now people will start thinking more about wasting resources like oil, start thinking about ways to live that have less of an impact on the planet. Not going to happen...gas is cheaper than Diet Coke. Cost-benefit decisions will be made by individuals and their circumstances, not group think for tree-hugging dogma. The "planet" doesn't give a damn whether you stay, lay, or pray. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Mobility is not a right Except for the whole mobility rights section in the Charter. Quote
Leafless Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Gas prices are nowhere near what they need to be. Your right, they should be a lot lower. North Americans have had it too good and it's time for this to change. Why, we pay for what we use. Mobility is not a right, and in many ways has been detrimental to our society other than from the pollution side of the equation. Mobility is a right when society includes the right to live where you want. Whatever the case, we were warned that these times were coming and not many people wanted to listen; now they have no choice. What times? Oh, you mean more pollution from third world countries like India and China from exploiting our remaining oil reserves. Hopefully now people will start thinking more about wasting resources like oil, start thinking about ways to live that have less of an impact on the planet. Like what, freezing in the dark? Quote
kengs333 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Why, we pay for what we use. No, the price you pay does not take into consideration that it is a non-renewable resource. Mobility is a right when society includes the right to live where you want. People can "live where [they] want" without burning so much fossil fuels in doing so. What times? Case in point. Like what, freezing in the dark? Yeah, we're gonna get there one way or another, but were on the fast track with the way we live now. Quote
VIV3LAR3VOLUTION Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Posted January 22, 2008 To compare Europe to us is not even a close call. Far too different.Just another piece by someone who is not thinking. Borg I think we have to compare with other countries. If it works somewhere else, it may work here. Maybe not exactly the same but... The system we live in purposely made cars indispensable. Why? I can see many of you cant live without your cars. I heard in some parts of Europe, cars with odd numbers license plates are only allowed to drive every second day or something like that. It really helped with traffic. What do you think? Quote It's easy, when you Google it.
Sully Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 No, the price you pay does not take into consideration that it is a non-renewable resource. Yes it does take into consideration that oil is a non-renewable resource. Oil is a commodity that is traded on markets and thats why you see oil prices fluctuate daily. All bits of information are inputted into making up the price with more immediate concerns being the cause of the current oil prices. ie. supply/demand and potential wars, etc..... As time goes on and supplies diminish, prices will shoot way up, when non-renewable becomes the buzz word. As for people comparing gas prices to Europe and saying we have it so good, I would like us ot start comparing our gas prices to Venezuela, where they pay $0.14/gallon. I would say we have it really bad. Quote
Borg Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 As for people comparing gas prices to Europe and saying we have it so good, I would like us ot start comparing our gas prices to Venezuela, where they pay $0.14/gallon. I would say we have it really bad. Bravo! Good one. I am sure someone will come up with a reason why your comparisom is invalid while those looking at Europe are valid. Borg Quote
maldon_road Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Not going to happen...gas is cheaper than Diet Coke. Cost-benefit decisions will be made by individuals and their circumstances, not group think for tree-hugging dogma. The "planet" doesn't give a damn whether you stay, lay, or pray. Look what our attraction to alcohol as an alternative fuel is doing to alcohol prices. Windshield washer fluid (last year less than two bucks) is now five dollars or more at most gas stations. Quote If the men do not die well it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it.
M.Dancer Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Look what our attraction to alcohol as an alternative fuel is doing to alcohol prices. Windshield washer fluid (last year less than two bucks) is now five dollars or more at most gas stations. Forget that, look what ethanol is doing to corn prices. And never mind if we have to pay $3 for 12 in the summer, think of the mexican peasant whose corn budget might rise 500%. There may be corn riots in the 3rd world before the decade ends. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
maldon_road Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Forget that, look what ethanol is doing to corn prices. And never mind if we have to pay $3 for 12 in the summer, think of the mexican peasant whose corn budget might rise 500%.There may be corn riots in the 3rd world before the decade ends. As they say, there is no free lunch. Ethanol as a fuel comes at a very high price. Quote If the men do not die well it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it.
M.Dancer Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Windshield washer fluid (last year less than two bucks) is now five dollars or more at most gas stations. Rule of thumb, never buy it a gas station. They are counting on the fact that you realy need it and will pay 100% more than everywhere else. CDN Tire or even Dominions will be half the price. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
kengs333 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Yes it does take into consideration that oil is a non-renewable resource. Oil is a commodity that is traded on markets and thats why you see oil prices fluctuate daily. All bits of information are inputted into making up the price with more immediate concerns being the cause of the current oil prices. ie. supply/demand and potential wars, etc..... As time goes on and supplies diminish, prices will shoot way up, when non-renewable becomes the buzz word. Nope, non-renewable means it's not coming back; once it's gone it's gone. There's nothing in the price of oil that reflects this fact. The cost is determined by the ability to produce in the near future and current supplies. There has always been the assumption that more can be found. Factoring in the cost of its non-renewability means pricing it so that the known oil reserves will never be fully depleted, and that the oil is used for what is most essential--and that does not mean providing people with cheap gas so that they can mindlessly drive around the country or drive to the corner store for a pack of gum. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Look what our attraction to alcohol as an alternative fuel is doing to alcohol prices. Windshield washer fluid (last year less than two bucks) is now five dollars or more at most gas stations. Hmmm....the precious blue windshield juice is only $1.69 US where I live. Squirt..squirt! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 Hmmm....the precious blue windshield juice is only $1.69 US where I live. Squirt..squirt! Would that be for (what's their anachronistic measure?) a cup or quart? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
kengs333 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Posted January 24, 2008 Hmmm....the precious blue windshield juice is only $1.69 US where I live. Squirt..squirt! Don't you mean "glug..glug!"? Quote
guyser Posted January 24, 2008 Report Posted January 24, 2008 Don't you mean "glug..glug!"? Naw, the windshield wipers only squirt, they dont drink . Quote
VIV3LAR3VOLUTION Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Posted February 4, 2008 Bravo! Good one.I am sure someone will come up with a reason why your comparisom is invalid while those looking at Europe are valid. Borg Well Venezuella is a democratic scocialist country with a lot of oil. Chavez is against free trade. Do you see what is going on? Quote It's easy, when you Google it.
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