Immigration and Multiculturalism in Canada

[Rue]

Your not exactly fooling anyone by "playing" the champion of human rights and then subscribing to exclusionist belief system that you have. Typical, you expect everybody assimilate and give up their belief systems while you go on your own way and not play by your own rules. I can't help but think that your post has once again proven why Canadians have the right to protect themselves against people who are bent on undermining the beliefs and institutions upon which it was founded. I'm a Canadian, a proud Canadian, and personally I really don't care for people who maintain a dual allegiance and spend their time trashing what Canada is and was when they no doubt are benefiting from the system they claim to have issues with. (Don't tell me you and your people haven't been profiting from "white privilege" all these years...)

edit to add:

The quotation contains parts of Rue's post prior to his edit which occured while I was compising my post. I regret not quoting it in full, as it was quite hostile and malicious.

So which name do you go by Leafless or Keng. Oopsy it slipped? Spit it out Keng-Leaf. What exclusionist belief system do I have? Show it. The quote you gave does NOT establish your accusation. Read what you quoted Keng. Point to a post I have written. Youa re full of allegations accusing me of being a racist and holding racist views but where is your proof?

Show me anywhere in anything I have ever written where I have suggested I believe in creating an exclusive category for myself and then from that category put everyone else down? I asked you befpore Keng to put up or shut up and you simply repeat the same accusation with NO BASIS to your accusation.

That Keng is what malicious is. Malicious is someone who comes on this forum, and tries to incite and provoke people with deliberately hateful comments.

I edited the post Keng precisely because I know someone like you would try manipulate it but I stand by it. There is nothing malicious about it. I have even edited this one so the moderators do not have to tell me to cool it.

I stand by my words in this forum each and every one of them particularly those in response to you Leafless Keng. My words are there Keng and so are yours. Trying to portray yourself as a victim of a racist is

at this point absurd.

Edited December 28, 2007 by Rue

[Rue]

"As far as I know there has never been written government policies that cater to the White English speaking Canadian."

The Indian Act favors English speaking Whites, so Leafless is wrong. However, I doubt we'll receive an apology. He's just not that gracious.

Leafless is well aware of the history of Canada's laws in the past and its precisely what he would like to do, go back in time to when they existed and he could be living in a world where he had birth privileges.

Edited December 28, 2007 by Rue

[Rue]

The Indian Act favours federal government and why shouldn't it, after all, Indians were defeated and incapable of retaining their sovereignty.

Oops it slipped again. For a guy who was unaware of any laws favouring white English speaking Canadians he seems to have suddenly become aware.

[Rue]

In direct response to you Leafless or is it Keng-excuse me but I get confused who it is I am responding to but I am assuming it is Leafless;

"And what subscribe to Liberal ideologies to wipe out English speakers of Canada and replace them with the French. Christianity and all of its denominations to be replaced with secularism, gays and foreign faiths. Jews to replace them with Muslims and Islam. Forget it. Canada is already spoken for and has a history. "

Leafless I do not subscribe to a theory of wiping out or replacing anyone. You are projecting your fears that you are being threatened by anyone who is not like you.

"Simple majority rule my friend, there is no other democratic way."

The problem is Leafless the majority have ruled and that is precisely why you feel threatened and subscribe to theories that would turn back the clock.

"Another communist with a socialistic State agenda to have every one else support powerless minorities."

The fact I challenge your beliefs as elitist, racist, intolerant, etc., does not make me a communist or a socialist, in fact Leafless to me you remind me very much of a communist or any other totalitarian who wishes to rule by excluding others and setting up tiers of elitist privileged classes. If anything Leafless the irony is your beliefs are typical of what Stalin believed in.

Not that it matters Leafless but my beliefs are transparent and I am far from a communist. I note you throw that word around when someone disagrees with you.

Its not communist to disagree with you Leafless.

Actually if you want to label me Leafless, the so called "liberalism" you think I am advocating is actually more close to what Edmond Burke subscribed to and he was a conservative.

You want to label me Leafless, label me someone who subscribes to Ghandi and Martin Luther King and mArtin Buber and Budda and Lao Tzu and Confucius and Oscar Wilde and Hugh Hefner. Chew on that awhile.

[Oleg Bach]

In direct response to you Leafless or is it Keng-excuse me but I get confused who it is I am responding to but I am assuming it is Leafless;

"And what subscribe to Liberal ideologies to wipe out English speakers of Canada and replace them with the French. Christianity and all of its denominations to be replaced with secularism, gays and foreign faiths. Jews to replace them with Muslims and Islam. Forget it. Canada is already spoken for and has a history. "

Leafless I do not subscribe to a theory of wiping out or replacing anyone. You are projecting your fears that you are being threatened by anyone who is not like you.

"Simple majority rule my friend, there is no other democratic way."

The problem is Leafless the majority have ruled and that is precisely why you feel threatened and subscribe to theories that would turn back the clock.

"Another communist with a socialistic State agenda to have every one else support powerless minorities."

The fact I challenge your beliefs as elitist, racist, intolerant, etc., does not make me a communist or a socialist, in fact Leafless to me you remind me very much of a communist or any other totalitarian who wishes to rule by excluding others and setting up tiers of elitist privileged classes. If anything Leafless the irony is your beliefs are typical of what Stalin believed in.

Not that it matters Leafless but my beliefs are transparent and I am far from a communist. I note you throw that word around when someone disagrees with you.

Its not communist to disagree with you Leafless.

Actually if you want to label me Leafless, the so called "liberalism" you think I am advocating is actually more close to what Edmond Burke subscribed to and he was a conservative.

You want to label me Leafless, label me someone who subscribes to Ghandi and Martin Luther King and mArtin Buber and Budda and Lao Tzu and Confucius and Oscar Wilde and Hugh Hefner. Chew on that awhile.

Hey - when I was a kid - I had platinum hair and pale blue green eyes - and I was considered NOT WHITE ENOUGH - by you anglo germanic stuck up pigs...what the hell was that? I was the n***ger in my neighbourhood and because of my Russian back ground was not excepted by the Anglos - it was not uncommon for a rock to come flying through the dinning room window and land on the turkey - I have seen it all! _ what you jerks did to the immigrants back in the 50s - how you abused your own slavic brothers - and now you have passed this curse of abuse down to your grandchildren, some of whom are here on this site - and now you seek to persecute the new arrivals in Canada - and make them clean your toilets. You have a surprise waiting for you in time - SHEER NUMBERS- Give it 5 years and the new arrivals to Toronto and Ontario will vote you right into the poor house where you belong - but not likely seeing you have a corrupt "democracy" and a corrupt "judicary" - eventually the immigrants will figure out you are abusers and they will spit on you - and you will not be able to do anything - because there will simply be to many...ha ha ha ha - cruelty begets the same buddy.

[AngusThermopyle]

Hey - when I was a kid - I had platinum hair and pale blue green eyes - and I was considered NOT WHITE ENOUGH - by you anglo germanic stuck up pigs...what the hell was that? I was the n***ger in my neighbourhood and because of my Russian back ground was not excepted by the Anglos - it was not uncommon for a rock to come flying through the dinning room window and land on the turkey - I have seen it all! _ what you jerks did to the immigrants back in the 50s - how you abused your own slavic brothers - and now you have passed this curse of abuse down to your grandchildren, some of whom are here on this site - and now you seek to persecute the new arrivals in Canada - and make them clean your toilets. You have a surprise waiting for you in time - SHEER NUMBERS- Give it 5 years and the new arrivals to Toronto and Ontario will vote you right into the poor house where you belong - but not likely seeing you have a corrupt "democracy" and a corrupt "judicary" - eventually the immigrants will figure out you are abusers and they will spit on you - and you will not be able to do anything - because there will simply be to many...ha ha ha ha - cruelty begets the same buddy.

I don't want you to be insulted, but, have you considered professional help?

[Leafless]

In direct response to you Leafless or is it Keng-excuse me but I get confused who it is I am responding to but I am assuming it is Leafless;

"And what subscribe to Liberal ideologies to wipe out English speakers of Canada and replace them with the French. Christianity and all of its denominations to be replaced with secularism, gays and foreign faiths. Jews to replace them with Muslims and Islam. Forget it. Canada is already spoken for and has a history. "

Leafless I do not subscribe to a theory of wiping out or replacing anyone. You are projecting your fears that you are being threatened by anyone who is not like you.

I don't have ANY fears. And "wiping out" could be replaced to be more easily understood 'to outright domination of the White English speaking culture by minority cultures'.

But I am concerned about our natural cultural being destabilized affecting our politics, laws and the different direction this country is being driven.

I fully believe dysfunctional politics is the cause of this massive cultural shift in the wrong direction.

The country cannot support two major feuding cultural ideologies and due to political weakness it appears this political dysfunctional is here to stay with dire consequences, that will destroy White English speaking cultural control and traditions formed by formed by mainly majority White English speaking Canadians and all those who subscribe to the White culture.

"Simple majority rule my friend, there is no other democratic way."

The problem is Leafless the majority have ruled and that is precisely why you feel threatened and subscribe to theories that would turn back the clock.

The clock is not turned back but only inconvenienced by government cultural intervention which can be overturned or made redundant.

"Another communist with a socialistic State agenda to have every one else support powerless minorities."

The fact I challenge your beliefs as elitist, racist, intolerant, etc., does not make me a communist or a socialist, in fact Leafless to me you remind me very much of a communist or any other totalitarian who wishes to rule by excluding others and setting up tiers of elitist privileged classes. If anything Leafless the irony is your beliefs are typical of what Stalin believed in.

Only a socialist would make such a false statement, "by excluding others and setting up tiers of elitist privileged classes".

Only problem is the "others " you speak of were NEVER EXCLUDED, their vote is just as good as anyone else's.

Not that it matters Leafless but my beliefs are transparent and I am far from a communist. I note you throw that word around when someone disagrees with you.

You seem to prefer a cultural socialistic nanny State, or is just my imagination.

You want to label me Leafless, label me someone who subscribes to Ghandi and Martin Luther King and mArtin Buber and Budda and Lao Tzu and Confucius and Oscar Wilde and Hugh Hefner. Chew on that awhile.

You left out the one most dear to some who think like you, Trudeau.

Some Canadian lefty you are.

[guyser]

I don't have ANY fears. And "wiping out" could be replaced to be more easily understood 'to outright domination of the White English speaking culture by minority cultures'.

I hear South Africa used to be a great place , you know back before they let Mandela out and all that other freedom crap.

Perhaps that is where you would like this country to go? Clearly by your words you want White Christians to rule over all others, regardless of the demographics of this nation.

[Leafless]

I hear South Africa used to be a great place , you know back before they let Mandela out and all that other freedom crap.

Perhaps that is where you would like this country to go? Clearly by your words you want White Christians to rule over all others, regardless of the demographics of this nation.

I have no use for Mandela and fail to see your implied connection to Canada.

The natural societal evolution of Canada as an advanced civilization as been accomplished primarily by the White English speaking culture and its supporters of this culture, consisting of all other nationalities.

If you wish to pick out Christianity, a component of the majority White English speaking culture, feel free to do so.

But in doing so you are clearly discriminating against White English Canadians and their accomplishments forming a workable successful Canadian society.

White English culture forces no one to join its ranks and in return it is expected the forces of government will behave in the same neutral framework, which they HAVE NOT.

It is apparent you support government cultural intervention for no other reason than to beat down White cultural ideologies.

[guyser]

I have no use for Mandela and fail to see your implied connection to Canada.

No suprise there. Try it again without Mandela in the quote.

The natural societal evolution of Canada as an advanced civilization as been accomplished primarily by the White English speaking culture and its supporters of this culture, consisting of all other nationalities.

If you wish to pick out Christianity, a component of the majority White English speaking culture, feel free to do so.

Would I be correct in assuming then that this phrase "If you wish to pick out Christianity, a component of the majority White English speaking culture, feel free to do so." means that I could remove christian from the equation and you are happy with at least white rule?

But in doing so you are clearly discriminating against White English Canadians and their accomplishments forming a workable successful Canadian society.

How so? Perhaps they did form a workable Canada, does this mean they should have it forever? See South Africa.(although in this case not a good analogy)

White English culture forces no one to join its ranks and in return it is expected the forces of government will behave in the same neutral framework, which they HAVE NOT.

It is apparent you support government cultural intervention for no other reason than to beat down White cultural ideologies.

So great , whitey doesnt force anyone to join its ranks. But the govt is forcing all others to join them? What do they give out....a membership card?

What is apparent is only so for you.

White Cultural ideologies? Like what? You talk in these terms all the time, but never nail ti down to the what, the where, so ........spell it out for us morons please !

I suspect white cultural ideologies is much the same as the made up attack on christianity.

But in the way you suspect I want to beat down whitey culture and support cultural intervention you have proven beyond doubt that you want the govt to ensure whiteys place at the head of the table.

So what you denigrate me about, you are at the head of the lineup asking for. And I doubt you get that.

[Leafless]

White Cultural ideologies? Like what? You talk in these terms all the time, but never nail ti down to the what, the where, so ........spell it out for us morons please !

Everything from sports to hamburgs and our association with our dear U.S. friends and their culture.

I suspect white cultural ideologies is much the same as the made up attack on christianity.

Are you thick or what.

But in the way you suspect I want to beat down whitey culture and support cultural intervention you have proven beyond doubt that you want the govt to ensure whiteys place at the head of the table.

Get what? Whites run the show.

The current government is dysfunctional and that is the only reason for cultural diverisity.

Whites and their culture will always be at the head of the table but do have a minor inconvenience, namely the Liberals and Quebec.

[Rue]

So Leafless has spoken and he pronounces;

"Are you thick or what. Get what? Whites run the show. The current government is dysfunctional and that is the only reason for cultural diverisity. Whites and their culture will always be at the head of the table but do have a minor inconvenience, namely the Liberals and Quebec."

Well from the sounds if it any day now Leafless you will find yourself in an institution and I am not sure the nurse's skin colour will make too much difference as to who's running the show when she's through with you and your enema.

[Leafless]

So Leafless has spoken and he pronounces;

"Are you thick or what. Get what? Whites run the show. The current government is dysfunctional and that is the only reason for cultural diverisity. Whites and their culture will always be at the head of the table but do have a minor inconvenience, namely the Liberals and Quebec."

Well from the sounds if it any day now Leafless you will find yourself in an institution and I am not sure the nurse's skin colour will make too much difference as to who's running the show when she's through with you and your enema.

Nothing surpasses your intelligence as your failure to understand the simple rules of this forum proves it, relating to personal attacks or maybe you are just an imbecile and simply don't understand.

Anyways Rue, the Liberals and Quebec have always been one and are totally responsible for the implementation of undemocratic, anti-Canadian policies relating to the ROC and cater specifically to French Quebec and their nationalistic and cultural demands.

The Liberals operate under the guise as a national federal party but serve in the primary interest of a corrupt Quebec and their phony language cultural preservation when in fact Quebec is totally assimilated to primarily American-Canadian culture as we all are.

If other Canadian national federal politic parties are satisfied being backward culturally retarded to antics of Quebec, this makes federal politics in Canada dysfunctional and unable to cater to the real needs of this country.

[guyser]

Everything from sports to hamburgs and our association with our dear U.S. friends and their culture.

In other words, you can't spell it out. Fair enough. So since you cannot, will you stop now?

Are you thick or what.

Get what? Whites run the show.

Well thank you for finally coming clean.

"Whites run the show" Beautiful...just beautiful.

The current government is dysfunctional and that is the only reason for cultural diverisity.

Whites and their culture will always be at the head of the table but do have a minor inconvenience, namely the Liberals and Quebec.

So, whites run the show and you want to keep it that way, at all costs. (and you didnt get the South Africa thing..and you call me thick?)

But wait a minute, whites run the show and according to you, the country is messed up. So does that mean we should get another set of whitey's to run the show? Or perhaps we should let some other colour , and some women too, run the show since evidently whitey screwed it up.

Its all so confusing isnt it.

[M.Dancer]

Whites may run the show but in Leafless' case they also sweep the stands and the stage...

[Leafless]

So, whites run the show and you want to keep it that way, at all costs. (and you didnt get the South Africa thing..and you call me thick?)

There is NO system of racial segregation in Canada.

If Whites outnumber minorities, that is simply the nature of the country.

Cultural government intervention discriminates, and you know that.

[Leafless]

Whites may run the show but in Leafless' case they also sweep the stands and the stage...

Here is Dancer out trying to prove he or she is a somebody when in reality is a nobody, with nothing to offer in the way of intelligent political opinions, but cheap personal attacks and or insults.

Can't take the heat Dancer, get out of the kitchen!

[M.Dancer]

Here is Dancer out trying to prove he or she is a somebody when in reality is a nobody, with nothing to offer in the way of intelligent political opinions, but cheap personal attacks and or insults.

Can't take the heat Dancer, get out of the kitchen!

When you have an intelligent opinion, political or otherwise, please be sure to PM me and so I can check the ice conditions in hell.

[charter.rights]

Here is Dancer out trying to prove he or she is a somebody when in reality is a nobody, with nothing to offer in the way of intelligent political opinions, but cheap personal attacks and or insults.

Can't take the heat Dancer, get out of the kitchen!

Ha!. I'm pretty sure that MDancer is a somebody but to put it succinctly I'm never sure where you are from. You couldn't possibly be posting from a library computer because there is very little content to your posts, but I do suppose that there are computers in most other institutions that you could be logged in to.

[Rue]

Oh Leafless you state...

"Nothing surpasses your intelligence as your failure to understand the simple rules of this forum proves it, relating to personal attacks or maybe you are just an imbecile and simply don't understand."

Say now that's a good technique. You engage in a personal attack to point out I should not engage in the very thing you do. Say now, are you the kind of parent that drinks and smokes and then tells your children they should not. It reminds me of my favourite expression-shut up and be tolerant.

My tonque in cheek comment Leafless unlike yours did not suggest you were an imbecile nor do I do as you do and dismiss what anyone says you disagree with as drivel. I was deadly serious in my remark. Do you really think as you age and get sick and find yourself confined to an institution it will matter what skin colour, or culture, or religion the nurse has? I am deadly serious Leafless. What you think you are fighting to preserve is in my opinion pettiness, superficial, petty insecurity as to anxiety that others are different then you.

That was my point. Its not an insult. Its a laughable fate we are all headed for and if you can't get a chuckle out of that fact you really do need to learn to find your humour quickly because believe me that nurse may not be as tender as you wish she/he to be.

Now you stated;

"Anyways Rue, the Liberals and Quebec have always been one and are totally responsible for the implementation of undemocratic, anti-Canadian policies relating to the ROC and cater specifically to French Quebec and their nationalistic and cultural demands."

Well now Leafless, as long as you engage in such simplistic, sweeping negative generalizations that seek to blame and scapegoat, its clear you don't want to debate or see someone else's view of the same conflict-you simply want to say you are right and everyone else is wrong PLUS everyone else is to blame if you do not have what you think you should have. See Leafless, when I deal with an angry youth who blames the entire world for his problems or an alcoholic who blames the world for the reason he drinks, I tell them what I tell you-as long as you avoid individual responsibility for how your own actions put you where you find yourself in life, as long as you externalize it and seek to assign such responsibility to others, you are condemned to this blame game and no, no one is listening except the very same bleeding hearts like me who will not give up until we convince you its o.k. to joing the table and play poker with the seperatist and perhaps share urine bags with him.

[Rue]

Ha!. I'm pretty sure that MDancer is a somebody but to put it succinctly I'm never sure where you are from. You couldn't possibly be posting from a library computer because there is very little content to your posts, but I do suppose that there are computers in most other institutions that you could be logged in to.

The Danceman believes in economic use of words to prove a point-something I am not capable of doing!!! Don't let the brevity fool you. Wise men say very little. Then again some of us like to be comedians so we prattle on.

[Rue]

In other words, you can't spell it out. Fair enough. So since you cannot, will you stop now?

Well thank you for finally coming clean.

"Whites run the show" Beautiful...just beautiful.

So, whites run the show and you want to keep it that way, at all costs. (and you didnt get the South Africa thing..and you call me thick?)

But wait a minute, whites run the show and according to you, the country is messed up. So does that mean we should get another set of whitey's to run the show? Or perhaps we should let some other colour , and some women too, run the show since evidently whitey screwed it up.

Its all so confusing isnt it.

Guyser call me crazy but I am not sure albinos would agree with Leafless.

Edited December 31, 2007 by Rue

[cybercoma]

Isn't it "MELDING" pot not melting pot?

Edited December 31, 2007 by cybercoma

[bush_cheney2004]

Isn't it "MELDING" pot not melting pot?

No...the term's origin is the play -- "The Melting Pot" -- written by Israel Zangwill in 1908.

[iForgot]

There is NO system of racial segregation in Canada.

If Whites outnumber minorities, that is simply the nature of the country.

Cultural government intervention discriminates, and you know that.

I'm white and I don't want to be segregated from minorities who are assimilated. Am I brain-washed by the jewtube?