jdobbin Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...16?hub=Politics A lawyer from Quebec City says she was dumped as a federal New Democratic Party candidate because she is transgendered.Micheline Montreuil alleges she was told by an NDP official her sexuality hindered party attempts to woo new Quebec candidates into the fold. "They just said I do not fit in the NDP anymore,'' the prominent family and labour lawyer said in a phone interview Saturday. "They also told me... that many people who wish to be a candidate for the NDP do not wish to have their name associated with the name of Micheline Montreuil, because I am transgendered.'' In a letter, the party told her she lost the candidacy for statements she made in media interviews, her difficulty maintaining support in the local riding association and for not working in a team, she said. Montreuil, nominated last spring to carry the party banner in the provincial capital riding of Quebec, disagrees with the allegations in the letter. But she said a chat with an NDP member has caused her the most concern. Montreuil declined to discuss details of the conversation, but alleges there are other "unpleasant'' reasons for her dismissal, which must be "corrected'' within the party. She has not ruled out taking legal action. It seems the NDP has a problem with independent minded transgendered candidates. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...16?hub=PoliticsIt seems the NDP has a problem with independent minded transgendered candidates. Perfect candidate for Dion and the Liberals,would help reduce their share of men MPs. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
ScottSA Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Most of these people have psychological problems far beyond their sexual identity issues, which are quite disgusting enough, so it's no wonder she/he/it was dumped. Quote
gc1765 Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Most of these people have psychological problems far beyond their sexual identity issues, which are quite disgusting enough, so it's no wonder she/he/it was dumped. You have some evidence that this candidate has psychological problems? Or is that just a drive-by smear? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
ScottSA Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 You have some evidence that this candidate has psychological problems?Or is that just a drive-by smear? Just a drive by smear, based on probability. Quote
gc1765 Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Just a drive by smear... Thought so. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Wilber Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 She could move to BC. Link Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
August1991 Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) I'll bet she takes the NDP to a human rights tribunal: A federal human rights tribunal has ruled the Canadian Forces discriminated against a transgendered lawyer when they passed her up for a job.Micheline Montreuil applied to be a grievance officer with the Forces in 2003. The Forces found she was a qualified candidate but ultimately turned her down, claiming there wasn't enough work to justify hiring someone who spoke only French. The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal ruled today that Montreuil's sexuality was the real reason she didn't get the position and awarded her $40,000 for loss of income. Link[1] Micheline Montreuil filed a human rights complaint against the National Bank of Canada, alleging that the Bank refused to hire her because of her sex, contrary to section 7 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. Ms. Montreuil states that she is a transsexual. LinkShe seems to eke out a living doing this. Keep in mind that the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal has a large backlog of cases so this means that the tribunal has chosen her cases as a piority to pursue. Edited December 16, 2007 by August1991 Quote
ScottSA Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Thought so. Oops. In light of August's new evidence, I think it's fair to say that it has graduated from "drive by" to "highly probable." At the very least she/he/it is a loose cannon, errrr, so to speak. Quote
jdobbin Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Posted December 16, 2007 Perfect candidate for Dion and the Liberals,would help reduce their share of men MPs. She was already a former candidate for the Liberal party. Quote
jdobbin Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Posted December 16, 2007 She seems to eke out a living doing this. Keep in mind that the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal has a large backlog of cases so this means that the tribunal has chosen her cases as a piority to pursue. I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that she actually runs into opposition to her transgender, do you? Quote
gc1765 Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Oops. In light of August's new evidence, I think it's fair to say that it has graduated from "drive by" to "highly probable." At the very least she/he/it is a loose cannon, errrr, so to speak. Glad you judged her before even reading August's post Anyways, let me know when the money she receives from these lawsuits reaches $2.1 million... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
capricorn Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 In 1997, during her transformation from male to female, Ms. Montreuil resigned from a 10 year teaching position. Afterward, she tried to have her resignation deemed null and void on the basis that her resignation was a disguised dismissal. On December 7, 2007, the Quebec Court of Appeal ruled against her and deemed the resignation valid. She may decide to appeal to the Supreme Court. French article: http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071207...6/6585/CPSOLEIL Google English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...ficial%26sa%3DN The timing of the NDP canning her nomination with this decision may be coincidental or maybe not. If she sues the NDP she'll use her court loss as a factor in the NDP's actions to dump her. I read Montreuil may run as an independent. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
August1991 Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) I read Montreuil may run as an independent.Given her tendency to litigate, am I the only one who finds humour in that? Edited December 16, 2007 by August1991 Quote
Michael Bluth Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Glad you judged her before even reading August's post . He made an educated guess, not a judgment, based on probability. It turns out he was correct. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Pliny Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Given her tendency to litigate, am I the only one who finds humour in that? Ohhh...I get it now...heh...heh...heh... Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Borg Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Showing my ignorance here. How does one continually persuade an outfit to carry on with so many different types of legal suits. After all it would beggar most of us to do this if we had to pay for the entire cost of these law suits. Borg Quote
ScottSA Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Showing my ignorance here.How does one continually persuade an outfit to carry on with so many different types of legal suits. After all it would beggar most of us to do this if we had to pay for the entire cost of these law suits. Borg She's a lawyer. She does her own sewage...oops, I mean suing. Quote
Borg Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) She's a lawyer. She does her own sewage...oops, I mean suing. Sorry - should have thought about it a bit more - surely even lawyers have costs. Is not a lwayer who represents himself considered a fool? Or is it the legal system that is tied up over frivolous law siuts such as this that is to blame? Whatever - he / she / it is simply looking for attention and making a living I suppose. Borg Edited December 16, 2007 by Borg Quote
ScottSA Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Is not a lwayer who represents himself considered a fool? I think the expression is "a transgendered sue-happy basket case is a danger to any organization." I could be wrong, though. I may also be on her list of targets by now... Quote
Pliny Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Metaphorically speaking, he lost his gun and her law degree is it's substitute. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
gc1765 Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 He made an educated guess, not a judgment, based on probability. It turns out he was correct. I'm a bit surprised that you are defending scottsa on this one. I've always thought you were from the more progressive side of the Conservative party. Are you saying there is nothing wrong with stereotyping?? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
ScottSA Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 I'm a bit surprised that you are defending scottsa on this one. I've always thought you were from the more progressive side of the Conservative party. Are you saying there is nothing wrong with stereotyping?? You must equate "progressive" with headinthesandism then? It may be common currency among the left to imagine that men who cut their naughty bits off and wear dresses are "just normal folks like you n' me," but not everyone lives in a neverneverland of radical equivalency. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) I'm a bit surprised that you are defending scottsa on this one. I've always thought you were from the more progressive side of the Conservative party. Are you saying there is nothing wrong with stereotyping?? I am from the more progressive side of the party. Your question is faulty. Scott did make a reasonable guess based on the facts. Are you saying that there is never a valid reason for a stereotype to exist? If so, can you explain why you have judged my actions based on the stereotype you attribute to those from the more progressive side of the Conservative party? Edited December 17, 2007 by Michael Bluth Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
blueblood Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 So if this individual loses the election as an independant and loses, would she sue everyone in the riding citing that they didn't vote for her just because she was a transsexual Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
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