Question Period

[noahbody]

As should Liberal MP Karen Redmond who jumped on the bandwagon without seeing anything.

It appears that Moore's reputation as a good guy on the Hill helped him in this case.

And they should both have to give lap dances to Peter Milliken.

[capricorn]

As should Liberal MP Karen Redmond who jumped on the bandwagon without seeing anything.

Really, I was surprised Redmond jumped in on this. I would have expected her to be more level headed. She fooled me. I agree she should also apologize for aping an air head.

[capricorn]

And they should both have to give lap dances to Peter Milliken.

That would give him reason to raise a point of privilege.

[myata]

There're so many sites with scantily clad figures these days, one needs to navigate like on a mine field not to hit one. Can she be sure it wasn't Britney Spears e.g.? Her variosly clad pictures can be found on all major info sites like MSN, Yahoo, etc...

Edited December 6, 2007 by myata

[myata]

Not to say, that is, that Harper, with his strong moral socially conservative principles, shouldn't be concerned

[Michael Bluth]

Not to say, that is, that Harper, with his strong moral socially conservative principles, shouldn't be concerned

Porn! On their screens! In the House of Commons! We aren't making this up.

Ok, maybe we are....

[Wild Bill]

And they always, always feel they have the right obligation to scold people for their behaviour.

My god, what a terribly unfun place Canada would be with the NDP in charge.

Now there's an idea for a thread! "If The NDP Were In Charge..."!

We could adapt all sorts of old jokes, like the one about how the Witnesses banned sex standing up 'cuz it might lead to dancing!

Thinking about that female NDP MP and how the whole thing fizzled in her face got me thinking about an old Britcom called "Rumpole of the Bailey". It was about an old British barrister who bumbled through his court cases yet somehow usually won. The key point was how he was always sneaking a shot of whiskey or some food treat away from the eyes of his shrewish wife, who was constantly bossing him around and telling him what to do. "for his own good!". He called her "SWEBO", for "She Who must Be Obeyed!"

There's just something about socialists that wants to paint the whole world battleship gray...

[Topaz]

So IF he was looking at his girlfriend and she was wearing a bikini, why did he lie? Why didn't HE clear it all up IF that is what he was looking at??

[M.Dancer]

It certainly is less identifiable as sexism than some posters commentary on Ruby Dhalla was in these forums.

If I was an MP, I would ensure I was not in her party so that I could sit opposite of her and gaze longingly at her......

Edited December 6, 2007 by M.Dancer

[Michael Bluth]

So IF he was looking at his girlfriend and she was wearing a bikini, why did he lie? Why didn't HE clear it all up IF that is what he was looking at??

It was cleared up within the day the accusation was made.

[Shakeyhands]

one way or the other it was inappropriate to do in the house, while is session...

[JerrySeinfeld]

Did anyone see how this ditzy NDP broad tried to tie a "photo of a scantily clad woman" (lol) to the Montreal massacre? What fucking planet are these people living on.

The Montreal massacre was perpetrated by Marc Lepine, formerly Gamil Rodrique Gharbi, son of a muslim wife beater.

Canadian men are far from the knuckle-dragging woman killing beasts we're all made to feel guilty about each december 6.

Rather they're wuss-bags who sat and did nothing while their women were being shot to death by the son of an algerian muslim wife beater. Very good microcosm of what some Canadians would have us do in Afghanistan (ie. nothing).

[Michael Bluth]

What fucking planet are these people living on.

Well said. Mathyssen was digging herself quite a hole before she saw how ridiculous her actions were. From Today's Star...

She said no one else saw the image. When Moore noticed her whispering about it to a colleague, Mathyssen said he closed the window and she saw what appeared to be 16 to 20 similar pictures in the file.

She sits 3 rows behind Moore and four seats over.

Is it plausible she saw the picture from that far away on what looked to be a 17" or 19"? Sort of.

Is it plausible she saw 16 to 20 "similar pictures" from that far away? Come on.

[Topaz]

Well said. Mathyssen was digging herself quite a hole before she saw how ridiculous her actions were. From Today's Star...

She sits 3 rows behind Moore and four seats over.

Is it plausible she saw the picture from that far away on what looked to be a 17" or 19"? Sort of.

Is it plausible she saw 16 to 20 "similar pictures" from that far away? Come on.

Another way to settle this is to have the media take a picture of his grilfriend sometime and then see if it could have been her on the screen.

[Fortunata]

She sits 3 rows behind Moore and four seats over.

Is it plausible she saw the picture from that far away on what looked to be a 17" or 19"? Sort of.

Is it plausible she saw 16 to 20 "similar pictures" from that far away? Come on.

In the news they showed Moore speaking and you could easily see Mathyssen sitting right in the line of sight.

As far as all this goes, I can't see why Mathyssen would be making up something; clearly what she saw offended her. How would she know it was a girlfriend and how would the people in the gallery know it was a girlfriend? I have to question Moore's common sense in having a picture of his girlfriend, scantily clad, up for all to see. It doesn't have to be a scantily clad stranger on a screen to be seen as inappropriate.

[Michael Bluth]

As far as all this goes, I can't see why Mathyssen would be making up something; clearly what she saw offended her.

Nobody is accusing her of making anything up.

She is guilty of over-reacting and not dealing with the issue correctly.

She should have spoken to Moore and explained her feelings. Quietly and professionally.

Instead she tried to score political points without having the full facts.

Had she handled it properly the CBC wouldn't have had cause to scold her on national TV.

[Wild Bill]

So IF he was looking at his girlfriend and she was wearing a bikini, why did he lie? Why didn't HE clear it all up IF that is what he was looking at??

Who said anything about a bikini? The report was "scantily clad" which could have meant anything short of a burka.

This is how smears always work. You say something that's a total stretch but because there are a lot of people who don't like your target anyway when you're proven wrong in your accusation it doesn't just stop. The folks who WANT to believe the worst about your target will keep twisting possibilities, trying to come up with one that will stick.

The woman was dead wrong and was forced to apologize. Get over it and move on.

[Fortunata]

Who said anything about a bikini? The report was "scantily clad" which could have meant anything short of a burka.

This is how smears always work. You say something that's a total stretch but because there are a lot of people who don't like your target anyway when you're proven wrong in your accusation it doesn't just stop. The folks who WANT to believe the worst about your target will keep twisting possibilities, trying to come up with one that will stick.

The woman was dead wrong and was forced to apologize. Get over it and move on.

I hardly think a fully dressed image would have provoked her bringing up something that clearly she thought was inappropriate. I would like to what the girlfriend thinks having her scantily clad image up in the HoC for all and sundry to gaze upon. As I said, it doesn't matter if it is a girlfriend or a stranger, there are somethings better kept for private viewing.

[M.Dancer]

When an NDPer of the wymynish persuasion says scantily clad she means that the wymyn were not wearing sleaveless lumberjack jackets, nor were the size 18 jeans (Denver Hayes) rolled at the cuffs so the the Doc Martin's could be shown to the best advantage.....

[M.Dancer]

I hardly think a fully dressed image would have provoked her bringing up something that clearly she thought was inappropriate. I would like to what the girlfriend thinks having her scantily clad image up in the HoC for all and sundry to gaze upon. As I said, it doesn't matter if it is a girlfriend or a stranger, there are somethings better kept for private viewing.

It wouldn't the first time the NDP have lied in order to smear the reputation of a rival. Although it might be the first time they apologized with being ordered to by the court.

[Shakeyhands]

...wymynish .....wymyn

Now that is funny.

[Shakeyhands]

Nobody is accusing her of making anything up.

She is guilty of over-reacting and not dealing with the issue correctly.

She should have spoken to Moore and explained her feelings. Quietly and professionally.

Instead she tried to score political points without having the full facts.

Had she handled it properly the CBC wouldn't have had cause to scold her on national TV.

Mmmmmmmm...not sure on that one. If I was looking at something inappropriate in the work place my manager would hear about it, there would be no quiet conversations.

and as to if it was his scantily clad girlfriend, his mother or a chick from Hangers'R' Us, its still inappropriate no matter.

[Michael Bluth]

If I was looking at something inappropriate in the work place my manager would hear about it, there would be no quiet conversations.

and as to if it was his scantily clad girlfriend, his mother or a chick from Hangers'R' Us, its still inappropriate no matter.

That sucks for your co-workers.

A quiet conversation on a first offence is the correct course of action.

The pictures haven't been publicly released, so judging them as "inappropriate no matter" is just weak.

They clearly were inocuous enough that Mathyssen backed down and apologized.

Good on you for keeping an open mind though.

[Topaz]

Who said anything about a bikini? The report was "scantily clad" which could have meant anything short of a burka.

This is how smears always work. You say something that's a total stretch but because there are a lot of people who don't like your target anyway when you're proven wrong in your accusation it doesn't just stop. The folks who WANT to believe the worst about your target will keep twisting possibilities, trying to come up with one that will stick.

The woman was dead wrong and was forced to apologize. Get over it and move on.

Duffy said he was looking at his girlfriend in a bikini and what was the big deal.

[Fortunata]

Duffy said he was looking at his girlfriend in a bikini and what was the big deal.

If you notice Duffy is turning out to be quite the con cheerleader, from telling Nicholson(?) what a good long friend he's been and he's (Duffy) sure he'll do a good job, to criticizing viewers for complaining about the treatment of Schreiber when his pants fell down, to this. I'm not sure who he is trying to emulate from down south but, as on other procedures that ctv has come up with, it's a copy.