B. Max

How many do you need. Three four, a hundred. The only fools are those duped into the man made global warming hoax. Those who advocte that theory have no proof of such, and border on being criminals.

Better take a closer look. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/NCDCanom.htm What is your intent posting this link? Was it to show that since 1998 there has been no increase in the warming trend? or Was it to show that since 1979 there has been a warming trend? or Was it to show that no year since 1998 has been as hot? Why not explain why you posted this link several times. I don't know what link you're talking about. They are likely different links to different graphs. Here is another one. Shows no warming since 98. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/HadCRUG.png

And you are dimented No, are you.

I must have missed the reference that he is a Communist. I wouldn't be a bit surprised. Perhaps I should have said progressive. You can call your self little boy blue, but if you associate with communists or spew communist dogma you are a communist. Monbiot was with Respect, a party that advocates communist type policy, the politics of envy and cultural marxism. Which is economic marxism translated into cultural terms.

This guy is a communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Monbiot My guess would be he's connected with Gorbachev's world communist outfit. Communists did not go away, they simply became watermelons. http://www.globalgreen.org/

That doesn't really make sense. You feel that it would be okay for Alberta to drain freshwater from the river systems and empty Saskatchewan lakes? You mean it's only Alberta that can't take water, our own water, from our own rivers. The oil sands take one percent of the water out of the athabasca river, and the rest flows on.

Monckton debunked. http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archi...ience/#more-367 Smear and computer climate models debunk nothing. They are the last refuge of scoundrels.

The temperature fluctuates. 1998 was an anomoly. The general trend still shows that the global temperature is increasing. Link Sure it shows some warming but it doesn't show what causes it, and the data is in dispute. The US land records don't match the socalled global land record. But the US global satellite records closely match the US land records. The satellite records will more closely the right records. Global Mean Temperature' - Disputed Data The `Surface Record' http://www.john-daly.com/giss2000.gif It's not really a record at all, but a statistical composite from station records from all over the world, most of them from towns and cities, and most from countries which do not maintain their stations or records properly. This record is compiled by the Goddard Institute (GISS) in the US. It indicates a global warming of +0.8°C. Is it real? Or is it just a statistical product of urban warming skewing the data, and bad site management in non-OECD countries? The pre-1940 warming is widely regarded to have been caused by the warming sun during the earlier part of the 20th century. The U.S. Record http://www.john-daly.com/usa-1999.gif This is the combined record from hundreds of weather stations in the 48 states of the contiguous USA., the early 1930s being the hottest years of the 20th century. This is completely at variance with the global record shown above. (Both graphs were produced by NASA-GISS) Urbanisation has been more successfully corrected for in the US than in the rest of the world and the US also has the best maintained network of weather stations in the world. This must therefore be a better representation of the global picture too. The US record also agrees with the satellites (shown below) http://www.john-daly.com/nasa.gif

I don't understand why you post links to media op-ed articles that have no bearing at all on the post you replied to, but I might join in posting links. Here for example is the excellent correlation again between the global surface record, and global satellite records for the lower troposphere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Satelli...emperatures.png And this one is a bit more on topic - It's called "Climate Fraudit" http://www.scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/0...ate_fraudit.php It's all linked. What are you talking about.

So they don't match and they do match...? It's global warming. Reliable at telling you the temperature trend of the US only. They cannot tell you the temperature trends over other regions. Temperature trends of different regions differ. Some regions warm, some cool. Overall more regions are warming than cooling - ie the average is a warming. That's what global warming is. More closely match than what? And what are these US satellite records? Don't you mean global satellite records? And what relevance do US ground records have alone when it represents less than 2% of the earth's coverage? Why ignore the bigger picture? Are you that complicit in the fraud that you have to come back with nonsense like that. http://www.junkscience.com/nov98/hansen.htm http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/11...4132.shtml?s=ic

It's a UN climate conference in Nairobi. I wouldn't expect it's packed with locals. Just the type of audience they need to spin a yarn of nonsense to, and which by the way, it's non of their business. Ambrose should be telling them to shove it, get on the next plane and come home. I would love to see her do that. The next step should be to get out of the UN. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/11...4132.shtml?s=ic

Gee that's to bad. I'll get it all the consideration it deserves.

It's a UN climate conference in Nairobi. I wouldn't expect it's packed with locals. Just the type of audience they need to spin a yarn of nonsense to, and which by the way, it's non of their business. Ambrose should be telling them to shove it, get on the next plane and come home.

By the sounds of it that guy likely doesn't even know which way the mackenzie flows and couldn't even find the mackenzie river on a map. Nor could the majority of people in Nairobi. It's the same old bullshit with these watermelon outfits trying to stop oil production. Both the territories and sask. have more water than they could ever use.

How about all the scandals coming out of the Catholic church for years now involving their priests. Just as scandalous is the world council of churches. http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/world_...of_churches.htm

Yes perverted and corrupted by atheist perverts infiltrating the church and masquerading as Christians. Elton John is a good example as to why him and his filth should be put back in the closet and the door locked.

Actually Alberta contributes far more to this country than any other province, and far as most Albertans are concerned, it's away to much. Just scroll down until you come to Alberta is already spreading the wealth http://www.projectalberta.com/

do you have any understanding of global climate change?? Posting temperature records for one country is so incredibly irrelvant! I know climate can only be observed over a long period of time and only after the fact. Whatever some scientists predict about the future is meaningless. Enter computer models which don't match the known historical records. When they are made to match, they don't predict man made Co2 warming. It's not irrelevant given the size. Either it's global warming or it's not. Which is it. I posted those records because they are considered more reliable, and if you take a close look the US ground records they do more closely match the US satellite records. Including the spike around 1998.

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Part of a globe which is overall is warming. Not true. The consensus in the climate community after looking into that issue in detail is the trends are not affected significantly. With the heat island effect thought to contribute just 0.05C over the last century. Besides some of the areas warming most on the earth are the least inhabited. More closely reflect than what? I haven't posted any US surface temperture records (you did that) Not true, the heat island effect is huge. Just where I live it can be as much as two degrees. US satellite data more closely refects US ground temperatures than it does the world temperature records. http://www.john-daly.com/usa-1999.gif http://www.john-daly.com/nasa.gif

I have no more concern than do hundreds of thousands of other people do. Just in this country alone. If you ruin this countries economy and send untold numbers into poverty with no hope of ever turning it around you will have war. That one can be sure of. There is no proof of man made global warming, that is a fact.

Lets look at the US historical records. http://www.john-daly.com/usa-1999.gif Why are you ignoring the global trends? It's called Global Warming not US Historical Warming The US is part of the globe. The records you post are in dispute because of the heat island effect. US satellite data since 79 more closely refect the US surface temperature records.

Discredited. How.

False. It's not false.

Lets look at the US historical records. http://www.john-daly.com/usa-1999.gif