fellowtraveller

I think you should take it to rabble.ca, where people will agree with anything you say as long as it praises the NDP.

I notice that Phacochere has vanished, perhaps the question of the divisibility of Canada and Quebec was overwhelming. Separatists tend to get very agitated or invisible when that old dog gets hunting.

I've voted for all three parties federally, but Chretien and the stench of Adscam turned me off Liberals permanently, or at least for the foreseeable. Voting NDP I attribute to the folly of youth and too much hashish.

Very unlikely, the caucus are in semi-chaos and semi-revolt now and very very unlikely that any of the leadership candidates will defer to another and anoint a new leader that soon. Besides, Dion still has fantasies of becoming PM himself and he will not abandon that readily. Finally, how likely is it that Duceppe and Layton will accept anybody else? Of course, they have lashed themselves to a 24 carat loser in Dion, so anything is possible.

Right, just what Alberta needs, a couple of million people depending on welfare, as they do now. Maybe it wouldn';t be much of a change....

Time will tell, but I think that you have chosen the wrong tense given recent events. Your post should read "he seems like the sort of guy that Albertans would have been willing to give a chance."

Well. we do agree on something, that Quebec has the right to self determination. Of course, being both a democratic province and nation, Quebec will be obliged to agree that First Nations claims precede any of theirs and that a First Nations dec;laration of independence from Quebec will be fully respected. As Canada is divisible, so is Quebec. The First Nations will be tearing up all those James Bay agreements they made , but if one of the parties ceases to exist it will be a brand new negotiation. Good luck with that.

I think it would be utterly worthless, for this reason: the new state would naturally claim that the laws of their former state did not pertain. That is why the PQ/BQ are insistent on claiming autonomy ASAP after a referendum vote.

Yes, they have decided to emulate the success of Manitoba and Quebec.

Candians chose the Tories to govern, and expect them to do just that. Your Bloc Torontois chose themselves. By the way, thanks for the majority, soon.

Six weeks ago Canada said Harper has to stay. Today some yobs on a mesage board, and the losers of that election, say he has to go. Yawn. Whatever happens in the near future, the frantic power hungry snivellings of the Bloc Torontois actions have one certain outcome: a Tory majority at the next election.

'The coalition' is too bland, and sounds like a 60s rock band dressed in paisley, or a vaguely threatening galactic threat from another Star Wars installment. I very much like the name I've seen here, The Bloc Torontois. It captures the prominent role of the Bloc Quebecois right up front and center where they belong in this saga, and the dreadful events about to unfold. And it adds the strong flavour of the dominant Liberal cult based in Toronto.

Yep, that is THe Big Fat Lie that the Bloc Torontois must sell to the stupid and gullible of Canada. The 'progressives' are entirely willing and even eager to believe it, there are even many who have the stomach to sell it. Look, there's a few on this thread. Shame on you..

Excellent post from one of the best posters on this forum. I live here and can say I've never heard a single Alberta politician complain about the great disparity between what Albwerta contributes to equalization and what Alberta receives from Ottawa. I don't expect that to change, but I do expect what Alberta contributes to change, and change dramatically. Alberta is getting hit very hard with greatly reduced world oil prices, which means Canada is going to get hit very hard too. With Ontario in the dumps, maybe one of the eternal leeches like Manitoba or Quebec could pick up the slack. Wouldn't that be 'progressive'?

What an ignorant liar you are. "reasons valid"!!!! Six weeks ago Canada endorsed Harper with a new and larger mandate. Harper overplayed his hand by threatening to cut off the party welfare cheques. Your boys didn't like it and have made a pact with the deevil to get what Candians rejected. Simple as that. Turn the page on your songsheet, the page where you list the silly excuses is getting sodden with your spittle.

You are a dishonest person, that much has become clear in the last few days. In 2004, the NDP, CPC and Bloc tried to force an election. In 2008, the NDP, Liberals and Bloc are trying to negate the results of an election.

This is the toughest part of the marketing of the coalition. The NDP and Libs know that if the Bloc is formally part of the group, the people of Canada will never forgive them and never forget it. Sharing power and basically giving control to separatists is impossible to explain away. On the other hand, they need the Blocs support from Day one, and that the Bloc will extract a heavy price now and an even heavier price later. They don't want Canadians thinking about this at all. It is about the most cynical politics imaginable: screw the country, we want power and don';t care what it costs.

Neither will. Do the math, Duceppe will be making all the big decisions. Nothing 'latest ' about it. Madame Jeans background is public knowledge and the controversy over her separatiste sentiments were questioned when she was anointed. You guys are going to hate her if she does not appoint Monsieur Lame Canard to the job that Canadians rejected him for at the ballot box just a few weeks ago.

Gee, I was just kidding............

IO do wish the Liberal loyal would stop singing the nonsense that the Bloc are not part of the coalition. It implies that every adult in the country is stupid, that they cannot see the evidence in front of them. Of course the Bloc is part of it, but the Liberal/NDP songsheet you and jdobbin sing from is desperate to pretend that the Libs/NDP have not opened their kimonos to a party that would splinter the country. Nobody wants to talk about it, yesterday through nu\merous newcasts the CBC never mentioned the Bloc or Duceppe at all. Despite the contempt implicit in that, Canduians are not fooled. Some are willing to play along because of their hate for Harper, but many can see what is plain to see. Jdobbin, in this thread alone you've come with a few lame excuses for the coup: Harper hinself, the economy, saving the nation fropm something undefined out there, but I have yet to see you approach the truth. The three party coaltion is doing this because they can, it is within the rules, a naked power grab , it is possible. Man up and admit it. They were rejected at the ballot box, now they are taking it through the back door. so to speak.

heading to rack and ruin under vague economic leadership, there was an instant and immediate threat to our country from the economic forces of evil. I'm wondering how Rae and Ignatieff propose to simultaneously campaign for the Liberal Party leadership and work 18 hour days to save our economy?

I'm starting to wonder if the GG will acknowledge that the coalition is inherently unstable, and therefore unable to provide the stable govt required. She'd also have to wonder what exactly precipitated this 'loss of confidence'. It obviously wasn't a loss of conficdence by the Candian people, who just re-elected the govt with an increased mandate. That leaves one option, which is to dissolve and have another election. I wonder if Ms Jean will be influenced by the separatist sentiment in her past life.

You agree that we should work with the Bloc in reaching their reason for existence: the creation of a sovereign Quebec?

FRank Stronach, obviously will get a big chunk,. Is this the plan where they add $50 billion in new business taxes then give the survivors back $30 billion. I don't understand the comments on 'propping up the big banks'? Harper freed up $25 billion of bank credit by purchasing a solid portfolio of mortgages, a deal that will almost certainly make money fpor taxpayers over time. As a result, and as of today, it is not difficult for a qualified borrower to get a mortgage from a Canuck bank at a decent rate. In fact, they are all back to competing.

Well, at least you are honest in that this coup has nothing at all to do with the fiscasl update or any lack of confidence in the government. The 'kick in the head' was the threat to Liberal dependence on funding. Power play, pure and simple. I'd respect that, except that the NDP/Libs are bringing the Bloc into it. That changes everything, and what respect I had for Dion and Layton is now formally zero.