fellowtraveller

Why do Baptists never have sex standing up? They do not want God to think they are dancing.

I see, You are countering the irrefutable fact that many Catholic clergy have been packed off to jail for sex crimes versus allegations of sex crimes by others posted on a bizarre pro Catholic website? Nice work if you are trying to convince pre schoolers. I think tonight the missus and I will watch that CBC documentary outlining the systematic, for profit selling of newborn children. It was run by The Church is Spain for 30 years. While they told the grieving parents their child had died at birth, it had actually been sold out the back door. Did the Baptists do that too?

The fact is that Catholic clergy are not put into jail randomly or withoput evidence, they are put in jail for sexually assault, viewing and sdistributing and possessing kiddie porn and other actual crimes. Perhaps the media has sensationalized the situation, but I just do not see any other clergy in anywhere enar the same numbers from any other religion in the same situation.

yep, right around the late 60s is when everybody started leaving SK, trickling out one family at a time like Dustbowl refugees from the 30s. Editorial cartoons in SK in the 80s would ask the not rhetorical question " will the last person leaving please turn out the lights?".

Moral, schmoral, who cares about that bunk with these perverts? The law does hold persons in a position of authority to a higher standard in many cases involving sex. A priest would get slammed for stautory rape for diddling a 15 year old, but a 16 fellow student having sex with another student would get nothing. But this guy was not having sex, so his sentence should be the same as any other creep since his position of authority had no impact on the nature of the crime.

Not. What is feasible and should be done is to upgrade the bitumen into synthetic crude in Alberta, and that is what happens right now to about 60% of oilsands production. There are upgraders in both Fort McMaurray and the Industrial Heartland near Edmonton. There are also a few refineries near Edmonton that supply the region with finsihed products. I beleive Shell is the only company that is entirely localized, from mining to upgrading to refining to retail sales all except mining from their Scotsford complex. The oil companies own the product after they dig it up, and they choose to pipeline it out as bitumen to US refineries, which are operating under capacity. Those refineries have to build upgraders to handle bitumen, but they are expansions rather than new builds. It does not work economically to ship finished products like gasoline vast distances, that is why Saudi ships crude to refineries around the globe rather than cans of 10W30.

Make sure you include this howler. Profs get bored with the same-old and enjoy a good chuckle.

Yep. Harpers opposition is dogged but kind of dumb much of the time. He is vulnerable on so many things, but they keep coming back to things like SSM and abortion where he has proven to be bulletproof because he either refuses to engage at all or simply does the right thing, as in this case. It is not that he is a step ahead, it is that his haters are wilfully a step behind.

The residency issue is not a problem, many Canadian laws and particularly many provinces have resdiency requiremnts for a host of civil issues. Health care, welfare, old age security, licensing of many things etc. There is no reason for the Canadian govt to change the residency issue, or there will be no end to lawyers shopping for jurisdictions and easy ways to screw the other side in a nasty splitup. What I heard briefly on the radio today is that the government will move to amend legislation that deletes the requirement to have your marriage elsewhere in order to have the Canadian marriage acknowledged in Canada. That would aspply to all marriages in any combination of genders. Problem solved.

Good pint, though I will bet that the Dept of Justice will fail on the second point. The marriages were perfectly acceptable in Canada at the time of marriage, assuming that neither participant was already married ie not a bigamist. And if the marriage was acceptable, so is the concept of divorce though the residency requirement applicable to all genders would still apply too. Justice will get creamed in court on the second point.

I used disingenuous, applied to you and you know what it means and why I used it..

The inflation rate for 2011 is about 2.9%, even if they come in at 1.5% increased spending that is nominally a deficit reduction, though of course it does not account for new spending. There is little benefit to Canada in paying heaps of money in interest at any rate. The CDN dollar is already quite strong and I expect it to get stronger yet as the Euro weakens. There is little we can do in this country to affect the valuation of our currency by others, as money market values are largely determined by the perceptions of others as to the relative strength of the economy overall. The alternative is worse. edited to add: if the govt runs surpluses and is unwilling to apply them to debt, then I want a tax reduction. I cannot afford to lend my money to Ottawa.

Bad news buckwheat, it isn't going to change. I don't fault you for it, but really if this causes you this much grief you do have choices. One would be to refuse all the government services you get now and will get in the future that are paid for by taxes or operated by our govts and in Canada a signifcant part of that comes from energy exports: welfare, education, defence, public security, pensions and all the rest. Or you could move to a country that has no corporations or nearly so. I think the world is down to North Korea or maybe Cuba though that one is pretty iffy. You'd also want to refuse to pay taxes at all while living here, if your feelings are that strong.

We need to get all of them to come from all over the world on jet aircraft to discuss the issue at a big conference. First class tickets on commercial flights for the second string cast only, the heavy hitters all have their own aircraft.

I don't undertsand what the issue is here. The divorce laws apply to everybody that is married, it does not matter if they are gay, foreigners or Canadian citizens as the residency rerquirement applies to all. Why would we differntiate for any of those groups?

Can you spell 'disingenuous'? Building the Gateway pipeline is certainly not in the interests of American energy security strategy. The 'postponement' of the Keystone pipeline was a clear message that Obama knows full well that the emperor has no clothes, that Canada has no options for marketing oil to anybody except them because...... we really don't have any options. I'd put more credence in environmentalists willingness to crush our economy if it was based on any equitable sense that all oil is bad and all oil production must be termihated. I'll rethink it when I see Greenpeace organizing demonstrations on the streets of Riyadh or Teheran or Caracas.

I'm betting you haven't, because it would strengthen your argument against Gateway if you could provide anything in support.The NEB rarely turns down pipeline applications for obvious reasons. The only difference in this aplication is the size of the project. The country is covered in pipelines, and oil tanker traffic on the East and West Coast is routine, long established and significant. Why do you expect a different process or different outcome here?

What is your condifence based upon? Hundred of millions of barrels of oil have been delivered to Central Canada for decades via tankers and pipelines , yet I have not seen a single environmental protest on this outrage. Sure, there have been dozens of gas stations closed here and almost every one has had to have been cleaned up by the current owner of the property before they could sell it. Individuals, governments and corporations routinely try to avoid responsibility for their actions. Is there a point to your question?

Well, that is one way to spin it. Perhaps that is the only way to spin it since anything else does not play well in the Bobby Rae Biography which unfortunately for him is deeply implanted ion a lot of voters skulls.. Another is to acknowledge that Rae is an ambitious guy and recognized that the NDP nationally was Nowheresville, he'd burned his briedges in Queens Park and if he ever wanted to be King he'd have to find another party. He also knew that the federal NDP could not possibly look to him as Leader after the fiasco of his Premiership of Ontario. Nope, he had to be bathed in the gentle Stream of Banality that could wash off the stench of radicalism, and the deep reek of his stewardship of Ontario. But no, let's stick with 'he experienced an epiphany that 'Liberal values' were what Canada really needed and he was just the man to deliver them'. The funniest part of what you wrote is that 'He was out of politics'.

The next sentence says that they have actually cut by 3% in the first six months. Neither are hard numbers, since they are referring to the fiscal year which will end March 31, 2012. Neither refers to revenue projections. and what really matters is the effect on the deficit. I don't really care what they do as long as revenue exceeds expenses by a significant amount util the national debt is eliminated, then they can be equal after that.

That is disappointing, I thought we would see a rehabilitated Svend Robbingstores as the NDP man.

She kind of reminds of that guy, what was his name again?Oh yeah, Bob Rae.

Tell me, have you ever heard a peep from environmentalists about the massive threat that tankers pose to the St Lawrence River and everyhting that lives there? Anybody in Valdez, Prince Rupert or Vancouver picketing over the daily supertanker traffic on the BC coast? Anybody stepping up to protest the 71 supertankers that hauled Alberta oil out of Vancouver last year?

She had no choice. Over 50% of her body is constructed with Dow Corning materials, a US corporation. Once you pass that 50% threshold...........

Oh, and as an aside the Syncrude builder was the US giant builder Bechtel. They screwed the pooch so hard on the Syncrude construction job so badly that to my knowledge thwey have never done another major project in Canada. The private investors(US oil corps) didn't give s shit about costs because their capital/operating partners(AB,ON and CDN govts)had guaranteed all sosts plus interest could be written off. Profit from oil mining operations was expected, but it didn't really matter as their return on investment was a given. In the end , they have profited mightily. Bechtel knew this and the project went from around a $300 million budget to over $1 billion, with Bechtel getting a percentage on every dollar spent or pissed away.