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http://canadaselection.com/ - for complete list. 199 Liberal scandals .... . Here is a list of almost 200 scandals under Martin's watch. 1. Cancelling the Sea King replacement 2. Sponsorship scandal 3. Gun Registry 4. HRDC boondoggle 5. Problems with Transition Job Funds program 6. Tainted blood 7. Radwanski Spending Affair 8. Pearson Airport 9. GST Flip Flop 10. Airbus Investigation 11. Voting against Red Book promise of independent Ethics Commissioner 12. Irving fishing lodge stays/travel on Irving jets for cabinet ministers 13. Martin traveling on private corporate jets as Finance Minister 14. Don Boudria’s stay at Boulay owned chalet 15. Denis Coderre staying with Boulay 16. Alfonso Gagliano being appointed Ambassador to Denmark 17. Shawinigate 18. Claude Gauthier (PM’s friend)’s Transelec getting CIDA grant that was questioned by the Auditor General and even CIDA. 19. Liberal fundraiser Pierre Corbeil charged with fraud by RCMP after he approached several Quebec companies seeking federal job training grants and asking for payments to Liberal Party, having gotten the names from senior Quebec Liberal Minister, Marcel Massé. 20. Michel Dupuy, Heritage Minister, lobbying the CRTC. 21. Tom Wappel refusing to help blind veteran 22. Gagliano’s son benefiting from contracts from his father’s department 23. Gagliano’s former speechwriter, Michèle Tremblay was on a $5,000 a month retainer with the Canada Lands Company to provide speeches for the Minister. Former President John Grant let her go saying “we got nothing in return.” Grant claimed that all Crown Corporations reporting to Mr. Gagliano were told to put Ms. Tremblay on a monthly retainer. 24. Iltis replacement 25. Purchase of new Challenger jets for the Prime Minister and cabinet 26. NATO Flying Training program contract 27. Liberal friends appointed as IRB judges being investigated by RCMP 28. Hedy Fry’s imaginary burning crosses 29. Maria Minna’s improper municipal vote 30. Minna giving contracts to two former campaign staffers for public relations work for a conference that had already been held 31. Lawrence MacAulay and contracts directed to Holland College 32. Lawrence MacAulay and Tim Banks 33. Lawrence MacAulay hired his official agent, Everett Roche, for $70K, but Roche never did any work for it. (Oct 2002) 34. Art Eggleton and contracts to his ex-girlfriend 35. Copps’ aide Boyer’s spending habits 36. Collenette resigns for breach of ethical guidelines involving a letter he wrote to the Immigration and Refugee Board 37. APEC Inquiry 3 8. Andy Scott's 1998 resignation that came eight weeks too late, after a media circus wore him down for indiscreetly shooting his mouth off on an airplane. 39. Anti-American comments by Liberal MPs, officials, and the former Minister of Natural Resources. 40. Rock and the Apotex/Cipro affair 41. Rock giving Health Canada contract to car cleaning company. 42. Manley lobbying CIBC on behalf of Rod Bryden 43. Manley’s fundraiser suggesting donors to his leadership write it off as a business expense. 44. Manley using his pre-budget consultations as Minister of Finance to solicit support for his leadership bid. 45. Coderre’s relationship with Group Everest 46. Martin’s fundraiser/employee of Finance Jim Palmer 47. Martin’s “blind trust” and his relationship with CSL. 48. Gerry Byrne requesting fundraising money be sent to his home address, with no records kept. 4 9. Gerry Byrne pouring bulk of ACOA money into his own riding. 50. Virginia Fontaine Addictions Foundation 51. Prime Minister’s former assistant, Denise Tremblay’s huge travel expenses on Veterans Review and Appeal Board as Minister pleaded poverty to veterans’ widows. 52. Chrétien appointing Hon. Roger Simmons (former Trudeau minister convicted of income tax evasion) as Consul-General in Seattle 53. Chrétien trying to bring hit-and-run driver Carignan back into caucus. 54. The RCMP is investigating possible fraud and bribery within Industry Canada, involving possible "overpayments" to recipients of federal business grants. The probe centres on the National Research Council, which hands out federal grants to small- and medium-sized businesses. 55. More than half a dozen bureaucrats have been "removed" from their jobs at a Human Resources Development Canada (HRDC) in Toronto following a police investigation into projects funded under one of the department's grants and contributions programs 56. Revenue Minister Elinor Caplan called in the RCMP and ordered a sweeping security review after four tax department computers were stolen containing confidential personal information on more than 120,000 Canadians. 57. More than $7 billion stashed in Foundations by Finance Minister Paul Martin with little or no accountability 58. Dhaliwal overseing Richmond-airport-Vancouver transit line while being owner of the airport limousine service 59. Tom Rosser, former Dhaliwal advisor lobbying Natural Resources department and minister on environmental issues only months after leaving government. 60. $5.3 million GG northern travel 61. GG budget doubles in 5 years 62. Robert Thibault giving a grant as ACOA minister to a wharf and boatyard where his brother-in-law has a monopoly. 63. Royal LePage contract, which the government was forced to cancel in the wake of serious concerns being raised.

Condensed in your own words - what a crock!!

Found this while scouring various newspapers online .... Police raid closes daycare Web posted on Tuesday, 13 December 2005 A daycare in Vernon has been ordered shut down after police found marijuana and guns inside the facility. RCMP raided the French Roots daycare in connection with an undercover investigation into street level drug dealing. A 27 year old resident of the home is charged with numerous offenses. After finding out what police seized from the licensed daycare residence, the Interior Health Authority ordered the operator to shut it down, even though police say there is no evidence she knew of the illegal activities allegedly going on inside the home. The daycare won't be allowed to reopen until authorities are assured the health and safety of the children are protected. http://w3t.org/?u=fiu

From what I have heard on the news and read in the papers - parents love Harper's plan which gives them choices. Also, it is fair to all working parents. Even Sheila Copps endorses it and she is more NDP than she is a Liberal.

Blame the drug, not the attacker. Must be the drugs, not the moral convictions of the attacker. cop out reply. The attacker willingly took the drug. They must be homeless because they're on drugs....or are they on drugs because they're homeless? Look into and get back to me. Be my guest - you look into it yourself. I'm willing to bet you anything they started smoking and drinking before they moved onto anything else.....just a hunch. Could be so what makes you think that pot smokers won't move on to something more potent? Nope I didn't because your post speaks for itself, without having to read the propaganda you dug up to support your position. Poor excuse - you just don't want to read anything contrary to what you believe in. Teach your kids and grandkids your values, once they're adults they'll make their own decisions. No one is going around forcing children to smoke pot, nor do I think it would be a very responsible thing to do. We don't go around telling kids to smoke and drink either....how is weed any different? My kids have good values and do not need pot to relax them or whatever the heck it does to those who use it. One does not have to force kids to smoke pot, legalize it and they will smoke it same as cigarettes. Sure they smoke it now, we have adults to blame for that. Smoking marijuana is a personal choice, something adults should be allowed to do...y'know, make choices. As a responsible adult, should I not be allowed to do whatever I choose to my body? Good so smoke it but don't ask the taxpayers to pay for your health care or sue the companies that grow the stuff because it did damage to you. Take responsibility with your choice. Legalization will take the organized crime element out of it. Instead of forcing people who want to smoke a harmless drug (in so much as you can't overdose from it) into the underground to deal with criminals, make it available in a safe atmosphere. Right now if you want to safely smoke weed, you have to grow your own...or have a friend that does and that's VERY illegal. So, the laws right now are setup so that the casual smoker has to go to organized crime to get it. Look this isn't anything unlike the prohibition era, with the "gangsters" and their tommy guns mowing people down in Chicago, Detroit and New York. Legalization would make it safe for responsible adults with a free choice able to safely get their drugs. As it stands, we're creating a dangerous environment by making it illegal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Unfortunately all adults are not responsible. Why should I support your habit? Oh and if you think there isn't any drug wars with killings going on, think again. Helloooo!!

That is the standard deal for all defined benefit pension schemes - in the private sector as well as public. The contributors do not own the capital - the have a right to the 'benefit' (that is why it is called a defined benefit plan). If they wanted to own the capital then they should have joined a defined contribution plan - in which case there would be no question about who owned the money. The civil servants are asking for something that they have no moral or legal right to. I hope the court throws this case out quickly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope the civil servants win their case & they do have a legal & moral right to their money.

Did you forget the video "REEFER MADNESS"... scary stuff..... and it's all true, because the government of the United States made this video and they NEVER lie... PS. Look around you, and you'll see tons of evidence in your community, maybe even your own house, of the kinds of problems that alcohol brings with it.... Or perhaps you might want to go to your local "battered womens shelter" and ask if the abusive husbands have a bigger problem with alcohol or with pot.... You'll have trouble finding evidence of problems due to marijuana... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do look around me and what I see is not pretty. A friend was beaten & left for dead by her drug addicted husband; my spouse & I were assaulted in broad daylight in an attempted robbery by a drug user; I see homeless children roaming the streets and most of them are high on drugs; Now maybe these drug users were using hard drugs but I betcha they started out with pot and moved on to stronger stuff. It is obvious you did not read the links provided for you - it's all there but if you want to smoke it and those are your values, be my guest but I do not want my kids nor any of my grandkids told that it is okay because it is not and those are my values. Everyone once thought cigarette smoking was okay but now it isn't so all the smokers are now crying foul - well I ask you, who willingly put that cigarette in that person's mouth? Sparhawk was correct in her comments that legalization will not take the profit out of it.

Obviously not in Ontario nor in B.C. since they have become more popular. People are not yet realizing anything. We have to hit rock bottom before responding to a wake up call.

For starters the employee only contributes part of of the money that goes into the fund - the government contributes the rest. I believe 50-50 is the standard split but I heard that PSAC has a really rich pension scheme where the gov't actually contributes more than 50%.However, the employees lose their ownership of the money because they signed a deal that requires the taxpayer to pay for any short fall. I don't understand why you have diffilculty with concept. I would love to have an RRSP plan where I make my contributions and if the investments don't work out then I don't need to worry because the bank will cover my loses. The real world does not work that way - the employees had to give something up to get the gov't to cover the losses and what they gave up was ownership of the money in the fund. The only thing they are entitled to are the benefits promised - not the capital in the fund. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> * It is not more than 50-50 and employees do not have a rich scheme nor do the retirees only the MPs and PM. Employees actually pay more to have their pensions indexed to the rate of inflation to which government adds zip. Next there would be no shortfall if the government did not spend the interest earned - they not only grab their contribution but also that of the employee. I have spoken to several civil servants and they have not signed anything with the government as per your statement.

well - some may end up with more than a headache ... here are a few links for your reading enjoyment. http://www.doitnow.org/pages/126.html http://www.health.org/govpubs/phd641/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4244489.stm Marijuana has a long-term effect on blood flow to the brain, potentially increasing the risk of memory damage and stroke, research finds. and - http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm

First serious gaffe of the election campaign? Thank God for our "fair and balanced" Canadian Press. They are often good for a chuckle. When a reporter asked PMPM if it was a Christmas wreath or a holiday wreath (Martin was buying a wreath), there was an uncomfortable silence before PMPM blurted out, "It's a $240 wreath." How embarrassing that a 67 y/o Christian man was too PC to say "Christmas wreath". But not a serious gaffe. And Paul 'Mr Enviroment' Martin calling on the US to have a "global conscience" regarding Kyoto--when Canada's greenhouse gas emissions have risen 24.4% since the 90s (compared to 13% for the US) is not a serious gaffe. After all, he attacked the US, which--in Liberal Land--is a good thing! Yay PMPM. I won't even bring up the fact that the Martin campaign jet--a Boeing 727--consumes 1289 gallons of fuel per hour, whilst the Harper campaign jet--an Airbus A320--consumes only 767 gallons per hour. Oops. I just did bring it up. Got that? Canadians are too stupid to be trusted with their own money. They cannot be trusted to decide on their choice of childcare; they will "blow" it on beer, popcorn, or a new car. The state needs to take our money, spend it for us, and have liberal elitists guide us dumb Canadians towards govt-run unionized daycare. Canadian parents cannot be trusted. Trust the Liberal Party; they have earned our trust, haven't they? Reid also said "there were no controls towards what that money [CPC annual $1200 towards childcare for families] goes towards." Got that? There are no controls on how you spend YOUR OWN damn money! :angry: I would link to John Duffy's remarks, but the "fair and balanced" CTV has already yanked the Question Period video from their website. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is going to seriously tick off parents!! Is foot in mouth disease contagious? Reid said it and Duffy supported it? Unbelievable arrogance! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe the Liberals are thinking that if Canadians are stupid enough to re-elect them then they are stupid enough not to know how to spend their own money. Does Martin's stance on childcare not smack of communism?

Well I'll apologize for using such derogatory terms for describing the kinds of people that your precious CPC party wants to discriminate against... on moral grounds of course.... I though I'd use the words that you'd identify with, as you discuss such people amongst your CPC-type selves.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your so-called apology is still an insult. What do you mean that you used words that CPCers would identify with? Take some time out and look in the mirror.

The gov't is legally responsible for a short fall therefore the gov't is entitled to any surplus. I would love to see the system changed where the employees would be responsible for any short fall - in which case the gov't should return the surplus funds. Until that happens forget about the money - it belongs to the taxpayers - not the union. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The money does not belong to the union but the employees. The union only acts on behalf of the employees. How do you figure when a civil servant puts their own money out of his/her paycheque into his retirement fund, that it belongs to the taxpayer?

CBC did a program called "Disclosure" on Paul Martin and CSL - here's the scoop: http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030401_csl/tax.html

This is an issue of union arrogance that occurs in the private sector as well. The problems stems from that fact that the employer is legally obligated to make up any short fall in the pensions and, therefore, the employer is legally entitled to any surplus. This is completely fair under the rules as they exist now no matter how much the unions want to whine.If the unions what the right to keep surpluses in pensions then they should accept the responsiblity for any short falls. It incredibly self serving to expect all of the benefits with none of the responsibility and all tax payers should support the Liberals in this case. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It has absolutely nothing to do with union arrogance but governments who take employee pension funds and throw them into the general fund. The employees pay the bulk into the fund and not government so they are not entitled to any surplus - it belongs to the employees. If there is a shortfall you can be sure government will find a way not to pay or reduce the benefits and Liberals being in power will do just that.

No wonder the Liberals have so much money to throw around to get elected - more theft. Seems like there is no end to it. Unions want Ottawa to return pension funds Last Updated Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:00:03 EST CBC News http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...us20051115.html The public-service unions say the money was, in effect, stolen in 1999 when the government helped itself to surpluses in RCMP, military and civil service funds. More than $30 billion was transferred to general revenue. The government takes the view that no one was hurt because it stands ready to pay the agreed pensions regardless of whether there is a surplus. One of the plaintiffs is the Professional Institute of the Public Service, whose president, Michele Demers, says the government slashed jobs, put a freeze on wages and increased pension premiums in the 1990s. She says pension money was never supposed to be used to help the government out of a financial jam.

Modern liberalism attempts to devalue traditional morals and to destroy the concept of the traditional family, and conservatism attempts to uphold traditional moral values and respect for families as the necessary foundation for civilization. It must be recognized that until recently, when modern liberalism began to assert that it had the right to determine what is politically correct, conservatism was quite acceptable and even gave its adherents a sign of respectability, whereas it seems that modern liberalism, although it is quite a powerful political force now, never quite lost its reputation of inherent lack of respectability. Modern liberalists hold that individual rights, no matter how diverse, should reign supreme, that personal gratification is an inherent right, and that the State must be made the guardian and provider of entitlements within those rights. As the traditional family and religions are the building blocks of a conservative society, modern liberalists endeavour to abolish both.

My thoughts too - I found the comment rather disgusting by err.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> and intolerance towards accountability and honesty.

I think what it is that the Liberals were in their glory until the scandals broke out and now there is egg on their faces. They want it hushed up and not discussed but that is not going to happen. I could never support a corrupt party including leader who avoids paying Canadian taxes on CSL.

Winnipegsun.com - http://winsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Bro...10/1346463.html If I can find it - I see no problem and so should you. Also, I read their copywrite, there is no breach and permission is granted for personal use and that fits the forums here. Before screaming foul, you might do the research.

Do you think part of Harpers hidden agenda is to steal my money and give it to his Party? Man, I just hate it when that happens. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is it okay for Martin et al to steal your money. And how did you come to the conclusion Harper is going to steal your money - what evidence do you have?

CARP is an advocacy group for people 50+. I got the following in an email from a friend [retired stockbroker] ....... Neither Ralph Badbeer nor CARP,of which I am a member,look good on this one.It is the old "duck and cover" defence. THERE WAS A LEAK AND CARP KNEW ABOUT IT. Liberals and others may lie,but the stockmarket tells all. I am having exasperating computer problems re posting to the AOL BOARD. Later today I shall be making a POST to the Board via Willie(regular poster) outlining my dilemma. I shall copy to you JJ and as My Computer Ma you may have a comment. HAGD Rick Updated: Fri. Dec. 9 2005 8:20 AM ET.....CTV NEWS STAFF Allegations of leaks in his department have put Finance Minister Ralph Goodale on the hot seat in the middle of an election campaign, and put the director of a seniors' organization in an uncomfortable spotlight. The Liberals were caught off guard Wednesday night, when Bill Gleberzon, the Director of Government & Media Relations for Canada's Association for the Fifty Plus (CARP), told CTV News he got a phone call on the morning of Nov. 23, alerting him to an announcement later that day from the finance minister's office. That call came several hours before Goodale announced that the federal government had decided not to change its stand on income trusts but would increase the tax credit on corporate dividends. In the hours before the official announcement, there was heavier-than-usual trading in income trusts and dividend-paying stocks. That has fuelled speculation that some investors profited from an early warning. "The day they made the announcement they phoned us and said something is going to be said," Gleberzon, told CTV News Wednesday night. Gleberzon said the call came from a senior policy advisor in the finance minister's office, someone his group had been dealing with all along. However, on Thursday morning, Gleberzon and CARP issued a news release denying any advance knowledge of Goodale's announcement. "At no time was CARP given an indication by the Minister's office of when the announcement would be made or what it would say," the release said. CTV's Kathy Tomlinson talked to Gleberzon after the release was issued. He confirmed what he had said in the previous interview, but now maintained he had misspoken. At first, Gleberzon said no one from the finance minister's office had contacted him about the interview. When told that the finance ministry's communications director, John Embury, had already admitted to calling Gleberzon Wednesday night, he explained: "I did speak to him .. I shouldn't have said that I didn't, but I did," Gleberzon told Tomlinson. "They phoned me and they asked -- they found out about the interview. He asked me what was going on, I told him, but it's when we were talking about the timing issue that I realized how important it was." Gleberzon said Embury told him: "We don't want to coach you, we don't want to tell you what to say, we just want to know what to prepare for." Embury was aware of the story earlier in the day, and sent an email to CTV Wednesday night, before the newscast aired, saying of Gleberzon: "He denies saying what he is supposed to have said to your reporter." In a phone call later, Embury told CTV's Robert Fife that Gleberzon was old and confused. "Well that's a nice ageist excuse," Gleberzon said when told of the comment Thursday. "I'm not that old, and I don't think I'm getting confused." Embury told CTV he has since apologized to Gleberzon for that comment. No one has evidence the Liberals or the department of finance leaked details of the announcement before the markets closed on Nov. 23. But some Bay Street players say some traders knew Goodale was going to make an announcement and invested heavily. Goodale has denied any leaks from his ministry, and at a campaign stop in Toronto on Thursday, Prime Minister Paul Martin backed that up. "The fact is that Mr. Goodale has said that there was not a leak from his department," Martin said. "The fact is he has also said that the Ontario authorities are in a position to do an investigation as they would do in any circumstance such as that, and obviously he and his department will cooperate fully with that."

Sociologist Reginald Bibby of the University of Lethbridge, directed a study* entitled "The Future Families Project" and it was done in conjunction with the Vanier Institute of the Family in Ottawa, Ontario. They published the study on February 10, 2005, and it offers some very eye opening facts. It must be noted that the Vanier Institute is held in high esteem as a reputable think tank and research institute, and works on a non-political basis studying trends and the needs of, and is a national, charitable organization dedicated to promoting the well-being of Canadian families. In their study, Vanier "found that 90% of Canadians feel that, in two-parent situations, ideally, one parent should stay home and take primary responsibility for raising children." The study also found that, in their perfect Canada, the number one choice of Canadians would be one's partner, followed by a parent, then another relative. Rounding out the top five? Home-based child care followed by daycare centres. At the bottom of the list were friends and sitters. If this is true, then why do so many parents seek childcare? Working class families with one stay at home parent making the same amount as a family with two wage earners pays almost double the income tax. Simply put, many parents find that they are unable to raise their own children because of an unfair tax system. Thus, the Conservatives have also offered up an income splitting scheme allowing families where one parent raises the children to split the income between both parents. This will allow many more parents to stay home, and will eliminate the need for another bloated bureacratic program. What a concept. Women's groups, who for years have been decrying the worth of the work a woman does at home, have been strangely silent. Knowing full well the information that is found in this study, as it is disseminated to all political parties, why is there only one party willing to do the will of Canadians? Why is the media negligent on publishing this angle of the child care debate? After all, don't we all want what is best for our children? Perhaps it is time to start considering the answer to that question. Perhaps we should also ask if there are any political parties willing to use our children's best interests as political capital.

No doubt Chretien was bad but I mean seriously people, in Ontario, seem to swear by the Liberals because they can't think for themselves. I mean, why face the facts? The Liberals govern by divine right! I was so happy when Martin just took over because I figured he would be honest about his conservative economic policies and move on with it. Apparently that is not the case... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We are in deep "doo-doo" if we have another term of Liberals. I guess Ontarians won't wake up until it is all over for this country. What a shame!!