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Yep, I had a step-brother in Ottawa face the same sort of situation around the same time. Incorrect. There wouldn't be a need for EE if the feds had "always discriminated in favor of minorities." I suppose the same would be for jobs where only women need apply too. Interesting that in the OP, most of the targeted recruits will be women and yet this has become secondary to "minorities in your post." What gives? .Does it say the women have to be non-white to be recruited? Aptitude testing on what? Cultural practices of Northern Saskatchewan Cree or Asian immigrants in Vancouver?

Now you are catching on. And being on top of a guy and wailing away at his head: gutless, unmanly, cowardly.

And you still haven't addressed the fact that in this culture hitting a man when he is down is cowardly and gutless and the only thing you can cite is that it isn't against the rules of MMA. No sh*t Sherlock. You want evidence? Go ask your mother.

Repeating it 1000 times wont make it true. No, I know plenty about the sport, enough to see that it contravenes a well establish and culturally traditional Canadian ethic about not hitting a man when he is down. Not when it comes to a Canadian kickboxer who knows better. There's no risk of head injury if the guy is defending himself - isn't that how the your arguments have gone so far? Yes, it is dangerous and thus unfair and thus gutless and cowardly. At least he is standig up and still dangerous. Riiiiiight. And yet you have nothing to counter my position but all this damning apologist crap. Which leads me to believe that you too find hitting a man when is down is a titch distasteful too. If you don't believe me, go ask one of your parents.

Nope, I was just taking a page from one you experts: Irrelevant. The issue is about hitting a man while he is down, widely seen by most Canadian men to be gutless and cowardly. Generally taught to them by their Canadian parents.

It appears to be worse than a little ol' ham sandwhich: Imported food not up to Canadian standards: Report Which, considering the leaning of this thread, is a little ironic. I am not advocating panophobia, but be careful what eat because it is out to get you.

Of course I know quite a bit "about the sport" hence the reason I have the opinion I do. My point about kickboxers is that they also know that it is cowardly to strike someone when they are down. But if the rule-of-thumb is to allow MMA fighers sort it out themselves, then why disallow hoofing a guy while he is down? He can still defend himself and it he takes a boot to the temple, the ref can call the fight over right?

First of all - define "leftist" as opposed to "centrist" or "rightest" as it applies to Canada. Secondly, I highly doubt that the sociology/polisci majors make anything near a significant portion of the federal public service and where they do, they are generally overseen by those of the economic/business administration set. Thirdly, most public service highers come from the private sector and many of those are high placed managers and executives. In fact, the federal public services recruits executives from the private sector. So your argument right there is at risk of being moronic. So all those soldiers, pilots, police officers, fire fighters, drivers, rangers, investigators, doctors, nurses, researchers - etc., etc., etc., all want someone else to "assume the risk" because they are "risk adverse?" WTF? It is obvious that your understanding of the federal public service is very limited and lacks the depth to be able to form any sort of coherent opinion. So your "logic" need not apply.

This is true, but it comes down to values. Would you be worried about a car thief or bank robber being a repeat offender more than a child molester? Here are two sources which show the recidivism rate for sexual offenders versus Sex offender recidivism - Public Safety Canada Sex offender recidivism - John Howard Society of Alberta However the JH of A has an interesting comment: .

Will they get fired? Will they? Or will they be offered several chances at rehabilitation that might span a decade in hopes that the invesment the company has made in this employee isn't pissed or blown away?

And the reason they are against the rules is because both sports are framed within a long standing cultural tradition that hitting a man when he is down is cowardly and gutless. Now we're talkin'. Kickboxers also don't hoof people when they are down - an honourable sport. Yes, so long as they don't use weapons. Yet. I mean there are martial arts that deploy devices. How long before we see that sneak into the "rules?" "It's only a little bamboo stick, come on, not like they are defenseless. Besides, its really about the grappling." Give it time. Once MMA has been around long enough and the participant numbers increase, the combatants will begin to manifest the long term health problems that are associated with such activities. Including cauliflower ears. With some of the current fighters, how would you be able to tell?

An early wyly thought: And yet you have failed to address the problem by saying, well, everyone else does salvage archaeology and it's a big place, so why bother? And then attributing strange ideas to me like you are trying to get out of it via the straw man. Try again wyly, answer the problem that short term salvage archaeology poses to advancing the knowledge of the remote pass on this continent and maybe I'll take you seriously. 100? Maybe less? How many of those are of the test or salvage type or teaching expeditions? If it is less that 100, that is not a whole lot for such a large space wouldn't you agree? And if you do, wouldn't you agree that the fewer the digs there are, the less chance of making a significant find as to push the human habitation back on this continent, especially under the pressure of modern day archaeological orthodoxy? Of course they have acceptance in the archaeological world, commensurate with their number. And of course sites of occupation can be determined without the requirement of human remains. I mean, how many Norse skeletons were discovered at L'anse aux meadows? Maybe it is dishonest, maybe not, but you provided only a partial answer and a convenient one at that. I dunno how many cave spelunkings have been done, do you? The only thing you are explaining is that accidental discovery is, well, accidental. However depending on accident to spur science forward is a little risky don't you think? Is h. erectus DNA irrelevant? No, what I am saying is that your understanding of DNA, genetic drift, bottlenecks and such isn't as accurate as you wish to make it out to be. Sure one can say that "genetics like math is predictable" in the same way we can say that geology, like math is predictable. Except in these cases you are applying the math to the DNA or rocks to get your predictions. And in the case of genetic "predictions" with the whole of human evolution, well, can you predict where I will find gold in the Canadian Shield please? Just do the math and let me know, I could use a few extra bucks.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Was there a morality clause in the bail-out agreement? Hence, if you can avoid buying a vehicle put together on a Friday, you ought to.

"...it's more of a punching competition..." I am thankful I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read that or it would be off to Staples for a new keyboard. Good one Shady! I am not disputing their knowledge of martial arts, just that aspect of it that would cause them to be gutless cowards and hit a man when he is down. Of course. But you missed the point. In Olympic wrestling, you don't punch a guy in the head when you are wrestling or you are eventually disqualified because, in Olympic wrestling, punching a guy in the head when he is down is considered gutless and cowardly.

Actually it isn't my poorly supported theory at all, but an open ended theory that allows for the timeframes for North American occupation to pushed back providing it meets the test of science. As I said, if you read through Dewar's book, it is surprising that the modern archaeology industry is so profoundly vulnerable to political influence. But alas, it is just another fallible human venture like anything else and archaeology often comes in second to other concerns. Dr. Timothy Pauketat gives a good picture of how salvage archaeology can place severe limits on our understanding of a given culture group. In his case, the Cahokian influence areas which are the subject of rapid urban development.

Hardly and if you are familiar with salvage archaeology, you would know that it is completely related to what we are discussing since salvage archaeology places limits on the extent of time and depth a dig can go. And salvage archaeology is likely the most widely practiced form in North America today and, no doubt, since it must comply with rules for urban development, comes under political scrutiny and pressure. Go in, make small test pits over a given area, salvage as many artifacts as you can and then get out before the bulldozers move in. Dig deeper than the Clovis horizon? Fuhgeddaboudit. How many purely research oriented digs do you think are going on now in North America. Do you have any idea? Bluefish Cave Meadowcroft Topper No, you are asserting that "and yet a number H erectus .... have been found by accident" and I am wondering if you have a percentage of h. erectus fossils that have been found by accident, you know, compared to all the rest. How much h. erectus DNA have they salvaged lately? Any idea on that? So what you are really saying is that h. floresiensis wasn't predicted by DNA?

Not in boxing they don't, where the fighters have more honour and respect than to hit a man when he is down. And usually most bar fights too and most of the time the opponents are drunk and even they know better. And most Canadian men, the real type - not the apologist types - would agree. If you want grappling, go to pro wrestling matches.

That would give rise to the logic that it would be OK to beat up a woman so long as it stays within the rules of the sport. Co-ed MMA, here we come - brought to you by the Sharia Law Corp.

Come on wyly that is a completely untrue statement and you know it. The salvage archaeology industry alone should tell you that, nver mind the science driven by the next grant. Occupation dates have been pushed back a litle further than 14.5 kya How many h. erectus have been found by "accident?" Do you have citations for this? Thus far... there was a time when this was true for other regions of the world too... Presentism, nothing more. Is it? Then genetic drift should not even be mentioned in the science literature and, of course, some brainiac should have predicted the existence of h. floresiensis. So now you are drifting away from certainty now. You'll have to elaborate on the predicabilty of h. floresiensis. My understanding was that it was a bit of a surprise. Not accident. Surprise.

Again you give yourself away as a recent arrival Mo. As IF "Canada's laws" are the only thing governing proper behaviour for men.

Which only goes to show that you are not sufficiently acquainted with our cultural traditions and give away your recent arrival here. I suppose you are going to say that the "rules" for beating on women are "sissy" too eh Mo?

But they kept digging past previous horizons to discover what else was there, oblivious to any social or political repercussions of any discoveries further back in time. Actually, for some of them I am sure there was an out-of-europe speculation going on at the time too. You know, the multiregional origin theories... Considering the sheer size of this continent compounded by the principles of modern salvage archaeology, the haystack is quite a bit larger than anything in Europe. However, with the occupation dates of this continent continually being pushed back in modern times, I wouldn't be surprised if some evidence was found eventually, if it were. So did the preeminent Louis Leakey no less - especially with the Calico Dig Yeah, I completely agree. And if it is just speculation, why bother to dig? Just put up the Walmart and be done with it. Is it? Then genetic drift should not even be mentioned in the science literature and, of course, some brainiac should have predicted the existence of h. floresiensis.

With a heavy emphasis on "gutless." Every real man knows this. At least every real red-blooded Canadian man.

yeah, that would be a hell scenario and a figment of your imagination at this point. Unless your name is really... Neo? Is that you?

Oh of course we move away from the actual device and into application and some sort of controls would have to be placed on their use for sure. But that is a technical problem that could likely be easily overcome. Even though the form factor is too small for me to see as useful, they do provide a great concept for convergence including the use of voice. I think there has to be a middle ground between the cell phone and notebook form factor, kind of like the iPad or some other eBook reader or something a little smaller. I find it highly dubious that the "dumb kids" have been producing better, faster, more efficient technology once they grew up all the while becoming dumber because of it. I don't see any backslide going on here with modern technology as far as application goes. More people are learning more things than ever before. Imagine the contents of the Library of Alexandria in the palm of your hand. (if the damned thing hadn't been burned down or ended up in the sea first) Some people have expressed the same concern with Harry Potter books. Or, a few hundred years ago, with books in general. Ultimately a heaven-hell scenario philosophical question dealt nicely in Joel Garreau's 'Radical Evolution.' He opts for a middle ground, such as we are in now. Or you could go old school and check out Alvin Toffler's 'Future Shock.' Although if you are almost 40, you likely have. Whoops I spoke too soon. But again, this type of controversy isn't new to our civilization and perhaps it is best summed up as 'the medium is the message.' Both.