lictor616

HAHAHa ! i'm sure you're protesting in front of the South African embassy every month to get white Afrikaners in SA some affirmative action... right right... that's just plain barefaced brazen lies. again why is racism the answer to racism... can anyone explain why an eye for an eye is somehow moral in this instance? And excuse me "past racism" just plainly does not cut the mustard... how is paying blacks a 10% raise for example going to atone for slavery taht happend centuries ago? How is giving preferential hiring to Muslims say going to avoid the breeding of racism in our society? Why do we whites need to pay for the collective "sins" of our race, and yet are not permitted to see ourselves as a seperate race under penalty of "racist" accusations... and subsequent job loss, law suits etc?? why is it wise to assume that by treating every single minority as a victim (whether or not he really is) of his race and ethnicity INSTEAD of a free individual is somehow congruous with a democratic egalitarian society? How insulting it is to assume that everyone with "tanned skin" as you weirdly say is "victim" who needs an artificial boost to make something of himself? This is not only immoral.. but DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR and actually racist itself. Many immigrants are VASTLY more capable then many whites in certain areas... Indians are adepts at computer wizardry... asians are stupendous analytical minds .... who make excellent professionals... and i've met quite a few who are actually quite incensed at affirmative action, and are worried about how it can breed resentment for them (and rightly so) a country dominated by europeans? really? what country is this? Where's the European Canadian Human rights tribunal? the Combined White Appeal maybe? The Anti Defamtion League of White people? How about the Association for the Advancement of White People? the White College fund? name me one channel that is resisting diversity or dominated by whites! JUST ONE. you won't be able to. Euro-Canadians have many LESS privileges then minorities- which makes them i,m sorry to say SECOND CLASS citizens... not sure how "dominating we are"if we declare ourselves as loathsome inferiors. Ours is a country where European Heritage Week is ILLEGAL http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/1999/09/29/..._nb2990929.html Ours is a nation where Sikhs are allowed to be covered by construction workers unions and insurances DESPITE their refusal to wear construction helmets... ours is a world of double standards and repression of anything European (shakespear is now deemed too eurocentric for majors in ENGLISH LIT believe it or not!)... how you could say that this is a Euro dominated country... i'd have to say that you,re having a really good laugh right now. What you propose is a perversion of tolerance and a capitulation in the face of ignominious injustice, and for that I cannot respect you.

um yeah sure... just look at the Texaco fiasco , in which a few employees in a private conversation said that they don't like "black jelly beans" in the workforce.... and texaco had to fork over 567 million dollars in punitive damages for WORDS, in a private conversation. So yes employers do it for business.. if ever you're not "diverse enough" you can be hit with government penalties, subject to audits, investigation, accusations which can cost you a lot of cash and be sued... much better to just go along with the act then to face the catastrophic consequences (not to mention BAD BAD publicity) once againwhat you say has no relationship with reality. at the bank of montreal where I used to work, there used to be a huge sign in the lobby that said: "we hire diversity before anything!"... the U of T has a policy of selecting diversity at the "expense of expertise". I could go on and on lifting more examples of this kind of lunacy.

its true we humans are mere epiphenomena in a universe vastly more complex then we.

i don,t see that it is... you have no compunction for racial advocacy for NON WHITES... but when it comes to affirmative action and other anti-white institutional racism... you encourage... You have to admit its pretty much staring us in the face here... you support things which dispossess and injure whites as a group, and defend other people's racial group interests... that's the reality of you... not an "assumption".

Hurt no one? have you ever heard of this region called "Palestine"? Maybe not, but do look it up sometime. really? I suppose you think that resentment of Jews is all perfectly irrational... even for such a country as Germany (which was the apogee of the sciences and of philosophy)... Did you ever Read "Germany Must Perrish" by Theodore Kaufman 1936? Howabout "Propaganda" by Edward Bernays? Anyways you'll find some pretty objectionnable content in there.. Kaufman suggests that all nordic Europeans should be killed. Bernays wrote that it was the right of Jews to own the means of communications as god's people. And then there's the religion... which teaches that non-jewish goyim are profane cattle who's only purpose in existence is service to the Jewish master race.. . i could find a person or two who think this is a bit unpleasant. if you're really curious (which you aren't) peep this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5224839731207532170, a Jewish defector... but yes, the majority of jews I know are really great people... funny, intelligent and quite nice.

explain the differences if you please between Racist and "racist" if one is anti-white... you're "racist" i presume... and you're A -ok but if you're pro equal treatment in admissions and hiring ... etc then you're a dastardly and repulsive reptilian like "Racist" right? this would be funny if it weren't so insulting to everybody's intelligence.

well wait a minute: I quoted the brain atlas to show the genetic correlation between mental faculties and GENES... My citations are specifically RACE BASED... I don't know how you could twist your mind around how a study conducted ON asians, to study the different effects on a specific indentifiable racial group is somehow proof that there is not difference in racial reactions to a specific condition. and you asked that question anyway... Perhaps the onus should be placed on you(or likeminded individuals) to explain how IQ difference between Asians, Nordics, and African Americans could NOT affect the Western world in the future. I'm not saying that certain races are completely unnassimilable, nor am I saying that pro-diversity policies are necessarily bad. I do wonder, however, why nobody ever even is allowed to consider these issues openly.

no I quoted from it .. it certainly does... BiDil is designed for specific races... BLACKS... are you disputing this? and as far as asians being vulnerable ... why are the researchers specifically interested in the ASIAN component to it, if as you say races are figments of the imagination? All races are vulnerable to sickle cell anemia.. but blacks are 80% of the cases... you don't think that's relevant and proof of some genetic predisposition to it? well I envy you certainty... Oh and did you know that testing consistently shows that Asians score higher then whites in controlled tests? I guess that however I cut it... no amount of data will convince you... might as well be talking about evolution with a Christian fundamentalist.

actually, your analogy fails, because it isn't the sickness that makes one HEALTHY but the immune system which may be stimulated by sickness..and either way: there is cholera and old diseases we though we eradicated are surfacing up again as different strains... but thank you for your frankness in admitting that current anti-white racism is good and justified since you seem to believe the answer to racism is "racism"... Maybe we can make learning and writing illegal in class ... that way illiteracy rates will drop... oh btw... you realize that you can no longer morally deplore racism (as you are an advocate for it) ... that means no more calling other people racist... since that's exactly what you are.. welcome racist!

are you kidding? Lacroix? fraud is not TREASON... (unless demonstrated as such) ... I think that Lacroix should get life in prison, and I believe that capital punishment should be legal for pedophiles. but we have a liberal cirminal coddling "justice" system in this country... we have to bear it for the time being... oh btw the same system that gives visible minorities preferrential treatment in hiring and admissions... (but something tells me you don't much care about that)

You calling me xenophobe is simply aimed at slandering me. Xenophobia anyways (like homophobia) is a ridiculous concept and I don't even think a single canadian truly has a "phobia" (ie clinical fear) of foreigners... anyways ... did you not notice that I said I watch NO TV... other then family guy and american dad? no TV means ZERO... HELLOOOO!? so no I don't sample one bit of TV news and form a categorical opinion on it... since I don't rely on television to form opinions for me... I would have thought that my open hatred of the mass media and anti- mainstream opinions would be clear evidence of this... but For one, the "nooz" in canada NEVER report the beheadings, NEVER show the stonings of women.... in such places as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan... Our nooz also never show us the images (except for this one time: http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html )of the IDF slaugthering palestinian children, women and men... I'm very well aware of what that rotting region of the world is like, and am very sure that I don,t want to be involved in it... but look at you... you insulting me for " making unfounded opinions and false generalizations" when YOU YOURSELF ARE MAKING ONE ON ME... saying that my opinions stem from crass mass media generalizations... i mean... go to sleep rest a bit and come back when you have a clue...

I actually developed my opinions over long and anxious considerations during extensive travelling... namely my one year experience in venezuela as an intercambio student. I watch almost no TV with the notable exception of Family Guy/American Dad... and what "TV" are you watching specifically that agree with my opinions here?

oh for the love of god! I know exactly how immunization works.... Go ahead and inject yourself with some aids contaminated blood if you want to pursue your inane argument.

but Melanie!!! cookie!! you asked: "So lets talk in general terms instead. What specific attributes do you believe to be determined by genetics, other than physical characteristics?" And i named a couple of suggestive examples that dealt with mental faculties and brain development which differ along "racial" lines... Genetics are in deed tied in to culture whether you like it or not... Ethnicity does have a racial component to it.. You don't expect proper Dinka tribesmen to be blonde or fair skinned right? And many Persians see fair skin as MORE Persian... Chinese people look down upon dark hued people (tanned people are associated with peasants) so physical characteristics positively DO play a role in integrating a culture.

loool, I see because people *MIGHT* be "raycuss" we have to BE racists to beat em to the chase... that has to be some of the most crackpot alice in wonderland thinking i've ever seen... nevermind that its obviously not at all true that every human resource person is a ku kluxer... So the cure to "racism" is "institutionalized racism". So the problem is also a solution? Hmmmm.. That's like fighting and AIDS epidemic by injecting healthy people with AIDS... That's like trying to make people be polite by slapping them in the face impolitely if they forget to hold a door for you... It's like trying to drain a bathtub by leaving the tap full on... Racism cannot be the answer to racism... sorry... you lose... eat what we eat .

blamed the holocaust on the Jews? Funny, can you quote that for me? I did say that Jews were not entirely "not responsible" for the way they were looked at by Germany and indeed the rest of Europe... I reject the notion that the behavior of Jews was irreproachable and not in any way related to the way Germans perceived them. I do agree that I and Argus display many dissimilarities in opinion and we shouldn't at all be bunched together.

There are many (impossible to list here for lack of concision), but race has an huge impact on medical treatment... every doctor racially profiles... some types of heart medication for instance are actually racially sensitive: BiDil is such a drug which works almost exclusively on african americans. http://www.bidil.com/ We also know that the gene microcephalin (MCPH1) which is responsible for brain development differs again along racial lines. http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/magazi...4/ff_brainatlas, craniometry (although rarely talked about) does display variations on skull shapes and the like... and we're all aware (although many of us refuse to admit it) that certainly types and degrees of intelligence do seem to follow geographical racial lines. Asian children develop their cognitive and motor development at different rates... blacks learn to be mobile at younger ages and we know that they have cranial sutures which close "earlier"... all of this is undisputed and widely known. Asians are vulnerable to different types of cerebral ailments as well.. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=A...ba82f47be35498c i mean EVERYTHING is genetic... Its obviously true that "nurture is very important" but really without "genes" nurture is useless. A person with downs is a genetic congenital affliction its determined by GENES not nurture... In "Genetic Structure, Self-Identified Race/Ethnicity, and Confounding in Case-Control Association Studies", Hua Tang and a large number of other scientists recruited 3,636 subjects from 12 different locations in the U.S. and 3 in Taiwan who all identified themselves as black, white, Hispanic, or Asian. Tang et al. analyzed these subjects at 326 genetic markers. you should read this journal to shed some light on your son's self identity quandary.

anecdotal ... unverifiable... and exceptions aren't the rule either way... i,ve once met a black jew converted to islam... ... were do we go with this?

he's not my "colleague" and we've have disagreed on many subjects... but I think he's right on this one... and judging by your frantic denials and "détournements" I know you cannot rationally account for what you're saying... since you'd rather be calling people absurd labels like "white supremacists"... when they complain about the institutional racism that is affirmative action, which deprives many whites of equality... that's right you're calling people who aim for equal treatment... "white supremacists"... that's why you've dropped the freaking ball my friend...

ployish drivel and nonsense.... he has rights... but not canadian ones anyway...

his skin color doesn't but his ethnic cline or race does... many attributes he has are genetically determined by heredity... you realize this right? did you not notice his appearance? So why say that what your husband looks like counts for nothing? Are you saying that your husband's cultural background or ethnicity didn't make him more or perhaps less attractive to you? That's weird... india has such an interesting cultural baggage... how unfortunate that you didn't "take notice"... And either way I really do have a problem with unverifiable, anecdotal, hearsay nonsense such as this. How much of what you say can be verified? Also, earlier i listed example after example on many minorities were positively treatment preferentially BECAUSE of their race. a anyhoozle!

well I haven't been dignified with an answer to many of honest questions here... many people prefer to simply flip me off and call me name A B or C instead of answering me directly and without circumlocution (as you just did... and did a coupla times before)... perhaps this is why I insist in delving further. I mean its very maddening for me to say something like: "Look, the government enforces racial quotas with its program of affirmative action and preferential treatment of minorities... here's the evidence "exhibit A: the charter of rights and freedoms describing the right to institutional racism, and exhibit B: accounts of workplaces admitting they hire ONLY minorities" and to have a response that looks like: "sniff sniff... lictor is a diseased bigot and probably a serial pedophile... he should die... everyone ignore him now please".. you know what? I find that to be distasteful intransigence... people resorting to ad hominems instead of simply answering dispationntely... Although I don't expect monkeyman, or you or MDancer to react any differently... After all when you rudely jab a pen in the ripe boil on the enfevered body politics of Canada that is called "multiculturalism", you expect to get splashed with some puss! tata!

why not check it and get preferrential treatment.. he should reconsider. and could you be more specific... "immigrants" isn't all that precise.

your white girlfriend..ummmm ... we cannot verify... and is therefore WORTHLESS as "evidence" here. Also having a white girlfriend does not prevent one from being anti-white... many black males have white "biddies" as baubles and objects of anger release... they go out with white girls, partly because of a desire to shock people, and defile the white female in the eyes of "white society" and partly out a lust for white women. would it pass if such a dastardly racist individual as myself would claim to have a black girlfriend .. .therefore it should be okay for me to continue to mock and insult blacks as a race? no... so please... oh and you're ad hominems are so obviously a sign of nervousness... relax tough guy... deflate a bit and "chill"... stop coming off as "watch out mom, big bad muslim here"...

lol or to quote my personal favorite: "The whole drift of our law is toward the absolute prohibition of all ideas that diverge in the slightest form from the accepted platitudes, and behind that drift of law there is a far more potent force of growing custom, and under that custom there is a natural philosophy which erects conformity into the noblest of virtues and the free functioning of personality into a capital crime against society." -H. L. Mencken maybe know you can see how I look at it...