lictor616

such statements are quite ridiculous and an inglorious way of admitting defeat.

hopefully that warning applies to all parties including you and your likeminded flock (monkeyman, griz, CANADIAN, charter rights) who have committed innumerable forum transgressions. Tango: Calling those who are intimidated by amplified megaphone Muslim prayer as “extremists” a label that is actually like calling someone a criminal: (http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=14826&st=15) Calling people “a-holes” “Except when he's being an aho.” “What a good corporate slave you are, wulf! That's just what they want you to think. Good puppy! go get your bone and lay down now.” not to mention Tango's use of utterly false labels such as bigot, homophobe, xenophobe, nazi and the like which are simply aimed at defaming fellow members. Also his support of such posters as member monkeyman: Tango: “Get over it, I say. Just an extremist with his own beef trying to whip up anti-Muslim hatred. Much like some of the posters here.” monkeyman: "There are some people here who are racists and white supremacists. Argus and lictor616 aren't worth arguing with on questions of race/culture (the only topics they're interested in) as there are no limits to their hatred and depravity. (monkeyman)You're a red neck, like your family, who should we kill next in your opinion?? Chinese, Gays, Romanians?????( http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....701&st=165) Brilliant comment. "Argus is a mean person and a pathetitc human being.) Go back to your red neck town you little mug" ----------------------------- mixed into this is the irritating need for Tango to butt into a discussion JUST TO SHUT IT DOWN... the tactic is always the same with Tango: Get into a topic that is not 100% in ideological lockstep with left wing politics say that the topic has no merit and that the thread should be shut down (because Tango decided that no one should be permitted to talk about said topic) tar any dissenters, using labels such as "racist, homophobe, nazi", keeping the comment tightly focused on the PERSON rather then the subject matter and then threaten people with "reports" when they retaliate in kind... its the old tactic of being a "forum pest".

the subsection explains how how in "theory" we are all equal and that no barriers or preferences should exist in such matters as race, sexual orientation or religion (etc)... BUT if one is a minority, one has access to preferential treatment.. pretty unambiguous...

opiate fantasies... is this what you picture reality to be in Canada? Do you think that blacks get arrested for crimes committed by OTHER people (of course all of them being white)... A white person assaults a homeless person say... the police are there and jump a black guy 100 feet away from the incident? and you call moi paranoid?

i'll repeat again what our charter says specifically: Canadian Charter: /Equality Rights Equality before and under law and equal protection and benefit of law 15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination (2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.(84) In essence: everyone is equal, and must benefit from equal treatment from the law and have equal benefits..... UNLESS someone is non-white, or is a "aggrieved" minority of some sort... then they have MORE rights.. MORE privileges.. . I mean its pretty damn straighforward.

by whom? and show through A and B why it is its multiculturalism that is responsible for that...

Tango, the burden of proof is on YOU on this one... go ahead and try to remedy the inneficiencies of your education before asking people to give you a power point presentation... Which would be useless anyway because no amount of sincere and straightforward data will sway you... just like no amount of research or studies will convince a hard hearted Evangelical of evolution... Your belief in the liberal cult stems from faith and religiosity not facts and notions about the REAL world... so it follows that you don't really care about facts one way or the other. I've actually pointed this very fact out before... the most successful economic nations are HOMOGENEOUS: remember? Japan is crowded over a few poor islands, with very little in the way of natural resources, has an aging population, labor shortage yet it is 98.5% Japanese racially, and the biggest other non Japanese groups living there are Chinese and Korean and yet Japan manages to have an annual 450 billion dollar trade surplus every year... China is very similar: 96% homogeneous, with exponential growth, it continues to eat away the gap with the US. The US Is a wasteland of diversity and fittingly has been doing nothing but racking up debt every YEAR since about 1978 (oddly enough in parallel to its increasing diversity) The US trade deficit with China alone: is estimated at 2.3 trillion dollars... while china operates a 400 BILLION dollar SURPLUS with the US. Again when you look at the facts you see that multiculturalism is no guarantee of economic viability.. .in fact one could argue that they are mutually exclusive.

i'll do the same. charter.rights... err I mean Tango... um maam'... pshhhhhhhh!

Tango, you're anything but normal... you're a hate crazed leftist TV educated do-gooder who intoxicates himself by going on forums and disguising his anti-white bigotry as "anti-racism" and his hatred of civilization as "love of multiculturalism". You are also not interested in debate, but rather slinging ad hominems and insults to derail posters and to discourage honest debate. You have no purpose in any forum (a place to exchange thoughts and debate)... since all you want is ideological lockstep and banishment of people who do not share your insane self-righteous ideas. Look at you wanting someone's banishment simply for stating a fact that our immigration policy is BROWNING canada... which of course is a simple statement of fact. What's wrong with pointing out that canada is heading towards non-white majority status? And who on earth are you to insult and immaturely ask for other members to be BANNED of all things for having reservations about that? What if there's a 1% chance that a non-white canada would NOT be a nice place to live in? Aren't we reasonable in talking about those prospects and letting those who have worries air their grievances? anyways, this message is more intented to other members then it is to you (since all the evidence seems to point that you serriptiously crave whites to be a minority (or perhaps even genocided) and either way when it comes to race all you want to do is insult ... sling tired old labels like "nazi" "racists" redneck" "hater" "goebbels" etc... try to shut down or distract posters AWAY from debating and clamor for people getting banned merely for talking about Ideas you think should be "streng verboten"...

by the way tango, the 700 club have an affirmative action hiring program (as the Promise Keepers do) and (like most pentecostal, evangelical Nimrods... they are racial egalitarians ... just like you)... in fact evangelicals are liberals: they are egalitarians, they don't believe in Darwinian evolution (well liberals SAY they do but they deny its implications)... the only difference is that evangelicals are anti-abortion, pro prayer in school and anti-gay. so you could say minor trivial details separate them... both of them retain the SAME social superstitions and evangelicals revert to the communism implicit in primitive Christianity.

really? am I the one threatening to conquer through violence, pillage and rape the whole of the Islamic world? Would I force our western development model, or even our western "religion" on the Islamic world? The answer is of course no... I would favor a policy of complete separation and non intervention with that insane asylum, and entertain purely economic relationships... these are only people from whom we are meant to buy oil.... that's it.. Am I and we the ones squatting in their lands, demanding that they respect our religion, demanding that they give us welfare, demanding that they accept us with open arms, while deceitfully planning to destroy them, their culture and civilization to implant MY beliefs on them? no at all... THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE HERE... THEY ARE THE ONES WHO AREN'T WELCOME and THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DESTRUCTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE.

althought the more liberal minded might call us racists (er or rather speciests) for daring to suggest that prongs are different to us in any way...

mixed feelings? either way I certainly don't see you criticize affirmative action or our charter (15.2) which has a clause that in effect denies equality to whites and gives undue privileges to non-whites on account of their skin color, religion or sexual orientation... Also, you certainly don't seem like a fence sitter: since you insult, bash and throw your muck at anyone who resists any aspect of enforced integration, multiculturalism and similar concomitants of affirmative action.

oh but you do... you think that a person's skin color is central in determining what kinds of rights and privileges he can receive... and what opinions he can have... If a person is non-white... you think that they should be privileged for it... and get preferential treatment... If a person is white and complains about this... then you judge that person to be some sort of defective or moral reprobate... you call them racists... and tell us that racism is the worst sin any human can commit. then when we show you examples of white people being victims of racism... you gleefully ignore them and call the people who complain: (predictably) racists... in other words your whole modus operandi of "judging people" is color coded... you have a set of guidlines for whites... and a completely different set of guidelines FOR NON WHITES.

historically overlooked? in the US perhaps.... but seriously... do you really believe that we're making historical slavery "unhappen" by giving undeserving blacks (most of which in Canada- have no close relatives who have been enslaved in the US) preferential treatment in hiring and every other aspect? Never mind that it shouldn't be up to any of us whites to pay for the minority of our ancestors who "wronged" certain blacks, but CANADA has NOTHING LIKE the litany of segregation and slavery of the US... why is up to canadians... to pay for the mistreatment of blacks by a MINORITY of a minority of AMERICANS? and conversely.... why is it "wrong" for ME then to attribute collective racial guilt towards blacks for the many rapes and other crimes that they commit against my people TODAY? on the one hand you demonize any attempt of attributing racial responsibility to blacks for their RECENT crimes... yet you demonize ALL WHITE PEOPLE... for the "crimes" (they weren't crimes back then) of a minute fraction of our ancestors... what a huge and sickening double standard.

what a self deluded person...

remember when i showed you the clip of robert Reich saying he hopes the new bailout jobs won't go to any "white male construction workers" ... do you remember a few days ago when I showed how the a Federal public works project specifically warned all white males that they "need not apply"? tango, you're so completely ridiculous.. everything you say is suspect now... we know that you're dishonest and have hate white people... you're like every other mass media brainwashed cypher... a massman... someone who is incapable of argument or even an original thought... everything you say comes out of a catechism... your religion of political correctness..... and your only reason for responding to people who disagree with you, is to insult, and spit your mucus on them... aren't you tired of people not being impressed by your hogwash... when does it kick in that you're not making an impact?

omg, what a self-righteous troll, do you leftists only argue in terms of Godwin law, ad hominems and rejections out of hand? Can we get some original and thoughtful liberals on board... i mean... echo the words of Hitler and Goebbels? How? Could you be specific? And PETA when they talk about protecting animals and ending animal cruelty... they're saying precisely what Hitler said MANY times about animal rights (actually the Nazis were pioneers of animals rights) so now PETA is a bunch of racist nazi's? And NOT A SINGLE US or CANADIAN soldier out of WW2 would even TOLERATE so many of the multicultural, anti-white crypto communist policies that are now foisted on us... Are you liberals really this disconnected with reality? you think our grandfathers would tolerate the sight of even a whie female on the arm of a black guy? Do you think our grandfathers would accept having mosques built in our big cities? Would they tolerate women taking drivers liscence photos with their HIJAB or burka on? Would they tolerate sending their grandchildren in the multiracial slums side by side with Sikhs who are allowed their kirpans? Sabre Rider... you're so completely out of touch with reality... it'd be funny if it weren't so sad.

This is a prime example of what is wrong with debating these rabid leftists.... such as Tango, Rue, and many others... All of you completely FAIL in this debate because you barely dispute my central thesis: the descriptive idea that whites are discriminated against as second class citizens and that humans are naturally racists AND the normative idea that they ought to be able to go their own way. Instead, you spend your time disputing the idea that other races are inferior. That I may or may not think that is not essential to my argument. It's totally superfluous. get a clue already guys...

It is of course a well known fact that limousine liberals and parlor pinks who force us to be be merry in multiculturalism, are usually fairly well off and live well isolated from all squalor and discordia of "integrated" areas... The great first "black" president himself William Clinton lives in upstate New York, near Chautauqua country, which is 98.7% white. It was the same with the infamous loathsome creature called teddy kennedy... Its the same with a huge number of these hypocrites.

In Longueuil, police officers have a maximum quota of arrests of black males... recently a black cocaine dealer driving a stolen car at high speeds, was pulled over and LET GO.. because the arresting officer knew that the department had reached the maximum quota of blacks... and didn't want to be audited. how's that for anti-black racism? Do you think there will ever be a maximum quota for white males? Don't think so. And look at you, defending RAPE... and asking people to ignore it SIMPLY because the perpetrators are black.... how more obviously biased can one be? 37 000 black on white rapes (while blacks are a 12% minority- and don't often live in close proximity to white women) vs: LESS then 10.... that's right less then TEN: white on black rapes a year.... by a 72% majority and you don't think we should dare talk about it? Seems to me like your more concerned with defending black rapists against so called "racists" then anything else. I mean how else could we interpret this? You're here browbeating and insulting the people who BRING THIS UP, and conspicuously ignore the black rapists. and the hilarious thing is... if the stats were inverted... if the races were inverted (say that whites would rape black women at hugely disproportionate rates then blacks rape white women) you'd be calling ME a racist if I ignored it and called this an attempt at "race baiting" Let it go Rue, we know that all your hand wringing amounts to barefaced hatred of people because they are white... its as simple as that.

Really? that's the definition of racism? So you calling me a "white supremacist" is actually racist by your own subjective definition of "racism". Since obviously you are subjecting me to negative stereotyping... an accusation of white supremacism can make one loose his job, expose him to physical harm, lead to lawsuits and all manner of social problems. therefore by your own logic: you are a racist.

oh but Tango pooh... how in the world do you figure that? do you REALLY believe that giving minorities *preferrential* treatment and allowing their race or ethnicity to be considered as a bonus towards getting a job or getting admitted to universities... do you really believe that this is "equal treatment"? Or egalitarianism? Affrimative action is NOT available to all... that's the whole point... and I,ve demonstrated what extremes that can lead to (situations where even federal employers specifically and overtly BAR WHITE MALES FROM APPLYING TO CERTAIN JOBS). Either way, I'm quite certain that our forefathers simply never could have imagined that their descendants would be so stupid as to want to extend equality to NON-EUROPEANS... NEVER MIND *PREFERRENTIAL TREATMENT*!

because having lived in canada, they know how suicidally liberal and tolerant we are... These people just assume that we have maggots in our minds, and act accordingly.. And they're not afraid of any backlash because they know how Canada is occupied by their own implacable enemies (liberals, multiculturalists, crypto-communists, egalitarians) and that these will not punish any transgression done by non-white immigrants... they know that the media will back them up, and that the liberal establishment will back them up. In canada, treason don by immigrants is rewarded. While loyalty to this country is called "racism" and ruthlessly punished.

ahahaahahh! Yes i'm sure that having a Thai restaurant ever 100km radius is major national objective... akin to water filtration, road repairs, and healthcare... (!) My only question is that why do we need to IMPORT Thai immigrants to get Thai food, and Haitian boat people to get ... errr (well actually haitian don,t really contribute any valued cultural aspects to us... but anyway)... Is it essential to have people of different races to have Thai restaurants? Isn't cooking akin to basic chemistry? Why assume that non-immigrants are incapable of getting these "essential" items... such as "butter chicken" what a surrealist conversation! tango, I feel you slipping out of sanity with every new post.