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civil liberties? Our own charter makes us: the descendents of MacDonald and Etienne-Cartier second class citizens in the country our forefathers built! Our charter tells us to ignore equality, and civil liberties in lieu of affirmative action...

Because they think of diversity as Thai food, butter chicken and Judo...

how much are we betting that that 21% was 92% "third worlder" votes... and 8% communists?

How sordid... what an ugly alliance..

quite true. The only question of any importance for the West today is: To be? Or to be nice? The laws of nature and civilization have not been repealed, and ours is a world of: "fight or die". And after our passing, we people of the West, despite our incomparable science, our magnificent literature, our glorious history, our great and noble ancestors... no people after our time will mourn our dissapearence. We will be remembered (if at all) only in mockery and derision, as an ethnicity/race of people too befuddled by the ugly and nonsensical canard of liberalism to defend itself. This is why the situation is so urgent today. We Westerners must go forward unperturbed by the hysterical screeching of politicians (whatever may be their motives). We need no longer listen to assurances that mister X-Y-Z (ie: Obama, Layton, Ignatieff) of the loony left is a well meaning person who should be allowed ruining our country, our nations, our Civilization, because he's just chocked full of "progressive ideals" and "egalitarian love" and is playing with our lives as innocently as he used to play with teddy bears. Traitors, no matter what is their professed goal, no matter what their aim... are STILL TRAITORS. Their acts must not be excused and they should not go unpunished. If it be extremism to be loyal to one's country... then WE ARE EXTREMISTS, and if it be "racism" to want to preserve our own lives and the lives of our children then we are RACISTS and that is that.

on the contrary the catholics are the premier promoters of "interfaith" dialogs, and are so lacking in self respect and dignity that they would rather ally themselves with their theological enemies: Islam then defend Western Secularism... The pope is for all practical purposes on the OTHER SIDE.

Well again you're straying from the fact that Jews do think tribally (which is certainly a very natural and good thing... something we gentiles lack, and lack to our great undoing). But again, we have to see if their behavior and acts HELP this country or HURT IT. Many of the anti-discrimination nonsense is heavily influenced by such baneful organizations as the ADL of Bnai Brith and other so called human rights groups... Many of these same organizations are ENEMIES of the West and our culture... anyways, I really think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one...

hahah ? what are you even on about? We have laws because common sense also tells us that some people need negative conditioning to keep them honest...

Its true that people who's minds have become befuddled by the cant of liberalism do lack common sense or rather: any common natural understanding of basic human reasoning. example: Liberals pushing for affirmative action (a systemic discriminatory institute) to combat "systemic racism"... There is no such thing as common sense to liberals... they are opposed to it because it interferes with their "fantasy play time".

We'd be either insane or stupid to ignore clear and direct death threats made towards us. And why in the world should we even CONSIDER whimpering denials such as yours? Why should we trust you or any denizen of the cesspit of insanity, barbarism, hatred of civilization and reason that is the Islamic world?

Well the laws also have put undeserving people into certain jobs for no other reason then their race. So imagine the harm done in terms of productivity loss. Notice how much we seem to loose in terms of quality customer service? even in BANKS! I remember calling Scotia Bank about a personal line of credit and the CS representaive spoke a bastardized farrago that no civilized man could have understood. I went into Volkswagen once (who has a diversity hiring program) to check out a Touareg TDI and the salesperson (a Haitian male) could not tell me anything about the vehicle without checking the brochure. He hesitated on prices, and kept changing the trimline options and prices... He also blasted the radio for me while test driving it which nearly made me have a heart attack at highway speeds. His english was abysmal, and his french was no better.... Imagine how many potential buyers are lost out of customers walking disdainfully away from such an experience i thought to myself... The evil of affirmative action is not merely that it unjustly displaces whites simply because of their race, it also greatly weakens our service economy, and the streamlined functioning of our businesses. It also costs millions to keep these programs running and force businesses to have "diversity recruitment plans" and millions more in "discrimination law suits" and other completely useless and log rolling problems which plague diverse workforces. And you notice these things when you get out of the country... go to Japan, and my god! what a culture of SERVICE! People bend over backwards to minister your most trivial comforts... people are extremely polite, and very professional... and the Japanese have no such thing as "affirmative action", and discrimination lawsuits are nearly inexistent.

"Internal e-mail reveals hiring ban at Public Works" Tom Blackwell National Post Saturday, November 19, 2005 The national post is a blog? nice try .... but no. And the charter which clearly stipulates that equal treatment is non-applicable when the persona is a minority, and that affirmative action and other programs MUST ensure that non-white minority candidates have access to PREFERENTIAL treatment.... is quite unavoidable as evidence of SYSTEMIC RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION wouldn't you think? White males are LITERALLY not considered Equal under the Canadian charter! They are second class citizens who have access to LESS rights and privileges SOLELY because of their race and gender! Two years ago, was the 20th anniversary of the Employment Equity Act: I attended: DATE: Monday, December 4th, 2006 TIME: 8:15 a.m. PLACE: Four Points Sheraton 475 Sherbrooke Street West this is part of the segment flyer that was distributed to interested participants: "Why the Honourable Jean-Pierre Blackburn is meeting with the Centre for Research-Action on Race Relations (CRARR) in Montreal - This year marks the 20th anniversary of the Employment Equity Act- fundamental legislation that contributes to Canada's development of fair, productive and healthy workplaces. - Since the inception of employment equity there are almost 40 percent more visible minority, Aboriginal and disabled persons group members employed in workplaces covered by the Act. This signifies that efforts to address discrimination and to promote fairness in the workplace alongside groups such as CRARR are making a difference. - Now is the time to celebrate and reflect on our accomplishments, and to reaffirm our commitment to protect the rights of Canadians equally in the workplace." HRSDC is Human Resources and Social Development Canada. the http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/home.shtml" This "celebration" of a 40% employed rates is FAR beyond the national % of visible minority workers... proof that immigrants are not at all disandvantaged but rather artificially PREFERRED.

The only evidence of systemic widescale discrimmination is against WHITE MALES, of which I've provided clear suggestive examples (namly emplyment offers warning that "NO WHITE MALES NEED APPLY") as well as the charter which specifically decrees that whites are second class citizens.

I agree, however you should also take account of the correlation between Jews and "liberalism". Jews are overwhelmingly majority liberal, and many of the liberal crochet and crazes are actually constructed by jews. Previously I named Marcuse and many other creators of cultural marxism (which is the foremost destroyer of "English culture" as well as european civilizationcraft). I think we do ourselves a great disservice when we refuse to identify who's who and what's what.

"potential?" You still don't acknowledge that a federal public works employment offer SPECIFICALLY BARRING WHITE MALES FROM APPLYING is precisely "discriminatory and racist"? How do you twist your mind around this to say that ""The 'potential' for discrimination doesn't count as evidence of discrimination."... this isn't "potential discrimination" its barefaced, immediate, clear and obvious DISCRIMINATION. I mean COME ON tango, please tell me you're not really this hot headedly anti-white! and btw... No, troll, we have affirmative action REGARDLESS if the discrimination is there or not... Our charter and affirmative action programs kick in regardless of if there is actual discrimination or not... one can be in a completely harmonious workplace with ZERO racism or discrimination and STILL reap the benefits of affirmative action and similar programs! Its not as if an independent investigation is made, and THEN corrective affirmative action is used... affirmative action and preferential treatment are AUTOMATIC.

the dornier would have changed the course of the war if it had been released one year earlier and produced in large enough numbers. What an amazing aircraft.

oh god, all the smileys in the world aren't going to get you out of this one... you've just completely contradicted yourself again. First off, your whole reason for supporting affirmative action is precisely BASED ON: "The 'potential' for discrimination", in effect giving boosts to people who may not even be discriminated against!!!!!!!!!! Affirmative action assumes or presumes that any person with dark skin, a hijab or kirpan is automatically a victim and is recompensated as such. Oh but wait... put the shoe on the other foot, and look at you flip flop... all of sudden you're saying when it comes to WHITE PEOPLE, then: "The 'potential' for discrimination doesn't count as evidence of discrimination." How more glaring can a double standard be!!!! If you're a minority race... you need affirmative action because of the "potential for discrimination" oh but if you're white: "The 'potential' for discrimination doesn't count as evidence of discrimination." And incidentally, affirmative action and racial quotas being the law, employers do NOT have complete freedom in hiring who they want Charter: 15.(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. Either way the examples I mentioned are pretty unavoidable, cmon' public job applications with headings that read; "NO WHITE MALES NEED APPLY"!?!?! are you this insane and crazy? You're not sure how that's discimrinatory? Are you feeling okay? If I sent out a public job offer on monster.ca that read "No Blacks or Muslims Need Apply" i'd be sued by the human rights tribunal IMMEDIATELY! tango, just come out and admit it already, you hate white people,m you're a self hating weak willed liberal who doesn't have the courage to admit the diseased hatreds that fester under your mishappened skull. Just say it, you'll at last make some sort of cogent sense at least... I mean aren't you tired of keeping up the pretense... you know and we know, and we know that you know that we know that its sheer BS. have some decency.

you conveniently forgot to mention Israel Shahak and Rabbi Menachem... who say precisely the same as Hoffman (who is by no means a "nut")... I agree that muslims are doubtless far less "assimilable" or compatible with western civilized society then jews, and I have nothing against porn either, but I'm not willing to discount the MOUNTAIN of evidence of their "supremacy religion". Personally it makes me uncomfortable that such a large and cohesive group of people who live in our country (and own a very large part of it) may hold such damnable opinions about "goyim". Am I really unreasonable for making this judgement after reading the abovementionned quotes?

sorry "i'm" not the one MISQUOTING them... I based my citations from scholar Michael A. Hoffman's book, "Judaism's Strange Gods" which was published in 2000 a widely quoted book (cited even by jewish Norman J Finklestein, Noam Chomsky and many others). there'S also the works of Israel Shahak http://books.google.ca/books?id=avh6dkSop0...;q=&f=false and what he says on the "Halakhah" or :"laws for goyim": Shahak offers a number of hair-splitting examples of Jewish beliefs on the subject and the way in which distinctions are made between the property of Jews and Gentiles, and between Jewish dealings with another Jew and with a Gentile. Two of these examples will suffice here: "If a Jew finds property whose probable owner is Jewish, the finder is strictly enjoined to make a positive effort to return his find by advertising it publicly. In contrast, the Talmud and all the early rabbinical authorities not only allow a Jewish finder to appropriate an article lost by a Gentile, but actually forbid him or her to return it... "It is forbidden to defraud a Jew by selling or buying at an unreasonable price. However, "Fraud does not apply to Gentiles, for it is written: 'Do not defraud each man his brother'..."" Shahak points out that "the Halakhah interprets all such idioms as ('each man his brother' or 'neighbor') as referring exclusively to one's fellow Jew." offers a number of hair-splitting examples of Jewish beliefs on the subject and the way in which distinctions are made between the property of Jews and Gentiles, and between Jewish dealings with another Jew and with a Gentile. Two of these examples will suffice here: "If a Jew finds property whose probable owner is Jewish, the finder is strictly enjoined to make a positive effort to return his find by advertising it publicly. In contrast, the Talmud and all the early rabbinical authorities not only allow a Jewish finder to appropriate an article lost by a Gentile, but actually forbid him or her to return it... "It is forbidden to defraud a Jew by selling or buying at an unreasonable price. However, "Fraud does not apply to Gentiles, for it is written: 'Do not defraud each man his brother'..."" Shahak points out that "the Halakhah interprets all such idioms [as 'each man his brother' or 'neighbor'] as referring exclusively to one's fellow Jew." Rabbi Menachem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson), Comments for the Fifth Book Jehovah himself in heaven studies the Talmud, standing: he has such respect for that book. Tractate Mechilla/Me'ilah "A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death" Sanhedrin 59a To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly. Libbre David 37 A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17 We beg Thee, O Lord, indict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee, and not calling on Thy name. Let down Thy wrath on them and inflict them with Thy wrath. Drive them away in Thy wrath and crush them into pieces. Take away, O Lord, all bone from them. In a moment indict all disbelievers. Destroy in a moment all foes of Thy nation. Draw out with the root, disperse and ruin unworthy nations. Destroy them! Destroy them immediately, in this very moment! Prayer said on the eve of Passover (Pranajtis: Christianus in Talmudae Judeorum, quotations from: Synagoga Judaica) The Feast of Tabernacles is the period when Israel triumphs over the other people of the world. That is why during this feast we seize the loulab and carry it as a trophy to show that we have conquered all other peoples, known as "populace"... Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D Resh Lakish said: He who is observant of fringes will be privileged to be served by two thousand eight hundred slaves, for it is said, Thus saith the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you, etc. Mas. Shabbath 31b On the house of the Goy [Goy means unclean, and is the disparaging term for a non-Jew] one looks as on the fold of cattle. Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it. and it goes on and on and on... These are the heighest respected figures in Judaism's OWN DIRECT QUOTATION as well as Hebrew scholars CORROBORATING what they say... it's not some quack Ku Kluxer... Now I'm sorry, I wish that all these utterances were patently false, but they are verbatim what is in the sacred text of the Talmud.. sorry , if you people have a problem with it... keep in mind that IM NOT THE ONE responsible for these quotes. I regret that they are what they are... but I will not discount them or ignore them. and I don't subscribe to the inane argument that just because something might be criticizing of jews, that it somehow makes it "anti-semetic" ...as silly as that word is.

I'm quite offended by those citations myself frankly. Remember though that i'm not the author... and I hope that no jews would adhere to them. but... it is the "chosen people's" own sacred text.

Is that supposed to be some sort of refutation? Calling me an "ignorant twit"? I've already stated that I see the three big religions (actually all religions) but for our purposes here; the three desert dogma's Judaism, Christianity and Islam as being thoroughly flawed and silly superstitions, however the inadequacies of the bible don't make the moral shortcomings of the old testament or Torah "ok". look here are some nice yeshiva boys: do you think they are inspired by the Talmud? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0 in it, some jewish guys are railing on how god gave the world to the jewish people etc etc... which seems to confirm the view that Jews views themselves as superior... as verified by the Talmudic quotes I lifted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGKos_liB6E

I just recapped 3 very good examples, and lifted many others while here... I also cited the CHARTER... that's right the LAW OF THE LAND... saying quite clearly that minorities have rights to SPECIAL PRIVILEGES which in effects makes them "MORE EQUAL" then us ie makes white people SECOND CLASS CITIZENS... Now the fact that none of you arguing from the left are capable of confronting these quite cogent examples of anti-white discrimination is simply proof that you aren't really interested in what is fair and what is accurate... you would rather retain the undue privileges given to minorities because YOU WANT WHAT YOU WANT... not because of anything moral or EQUAL. If it were a law that every white male give up an extra 20% of his salary to give to a huge trustfund given to only people of color... you people would be all for it... as somehow "correcting discimrination" or "equalizing the playing field" etc or whatever... that's because you don't care about whats fair and equal... if you have a prospect of benefiting from it.. that's all that matters to you.. you really could'nt care less about equality and a rational justice system or charter...

18.1 for the quebec charter. 15.2 for the Canadian charter (which is almost identical): Equality Rights Equality before and under law and equal protection and benefit of law 15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. Affirmative action programs (2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability in other words: everyone is to be equally treated and cannot have one's race, religion or sexual orientations etc be a factor in anything.... .EXCEPT of course: if one is a minority and non white, in which case their race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation is to be hled in HIGHER ESTEEM and grant the person PRIVILEGES unavailable to "white swine"... There you have it. The charter telling us quite clearly that whites are loathsome second class citizens (in the country their forfathers founded no less!) pretty amazing.. but I bet a flour souled humanitarian like you Tango is just overjoyed that such vile discrimination is committed (just as long as it isn't colored folks right?)

you're ridiculous tango... here they are again: http://elliotlakenews.wordpress.com/2007/1...r-attack-again/ http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?p=1940 snip- White males need not apply Internal e-mail reveals hiring ban at Public Works Tom Blackwell National Post Saturday, November 19, 2005 A major federal department has temporarily banned the hiring of able-bodied white men in an unusual move critics say could spark a backlash against the very disadvantaged groups it is meant to help. "Managers in the Public Works department must hire only visible minorities, women, aboriginals and the disabled, except with written permission from their superiors, David Marshall, the deputy minister, ordered in an e-mail circulated yesterday". — Robert Reich (economic adviser to President Obama): "I am concerned, as I'm sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers"

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Where a Jew Should Do Evil: Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis: Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God: Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed. O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews: Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work. Jews Have Superior Legal Status: Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full." Jews May Steal from Non-Jews: Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..." Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews: Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel." Jews May Lie to Non-Jews: Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile. Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human: Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.