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The initial alliances with the left (Tudeh party very popular then amongst Iranian jews) and the islamists from the rural impoverished regions was what Khomeini needed to gain control and subsequently silence the opposition.

They are one worse than the other and complete cocks... One of the problems with these unicorn Brexitiers including Michael Gove is that they do not want to admit they are wrong. In any case there's not much time left and May inevitably was a lame duck now becomes toast...

Looks like May has just pulled the leadership for another year. Nevertheless, she has too many enemies in her own Tory party. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-4654724 I mean in all seriousness Corbyn was never gonna pose as a credible opposition to her. He lacks the gravitas. Would love to see May negotiating her way out of no deal with the EU....Merckel the german chancelor has categorically said “the deal can not be changed”.

Nostalgic memories...

Yup! If or when he raises the interest rates it will hurt the pockets of those that have taken a hefty mortgage....

Nonesense. The vote breakdown for brexit Aaah! So ir’s about the colour of skin.....I get that.... On that note those pakistanis were brought to the United Kingdom after WWII to build up the infrastructure of railways etc. So....being the second or third generation in UK I don’t think they give a damn about your take on Brexit nor mine. Just sayin...,

Indeed subhuman they are. The thing that bothers me is this. Most of these mullahs have reached a Stone Age being literally too old. I hate to see the predicament of their kids studying abroad one day return to Iran to fill the gaps of their forefathers and try to sell (oh wait did I say sell? I take it back) literally shovel a new version of Islam down people's throat. After all, their favourite destination seems to be US, UK and Canada... Call me cynical but I hate to see the British government recruiting these new wannabes with a new version of islam and send them back to Iran. After all, this is what we saw in Khomeini's legacy when he spent his time in exile in Paris when Shah was in power. Just when the time was ripe before the revolution the French sent him back to Iran with a plane on tight security......

You will find there is alot more you will agree with me subconsciously.

You being deliberately obtuse.... Why don’t you want to accept the fact that Iran was neutral in WWII? I don’t think anyone here would have endorsed the doctrine of communism under Stalin back then. But then you are free to support him if you wish. It is well documented within the Holocaust memorial journal that Reza Shah did not support the Nazi ideology of “über Mensch” and has time and time again argued against this Nazi ideology that Iranian jews are Iranians and have the same rights. I have already shown you the link for this on another thread “Iran needs some democracy.”

If it wasn’t for Reza Shah Iranian jews would have spent their time in Auschwitz or Krackow.....Same predicament that hungarian jews encountered that were handed over to Nazis. Do you like the current mullahs?

Spanky, I have alot of respect for your views but with all due respect you are not listening... Your notion of taking a revisionary POV regarding China’s atrocity in the past is a position that is futile to hold any conversation. By that standard I can argue that the whole foundation of US of A is based on genocide of its natives and using them as slaves to build the country. Whilst this is true and it is good acknowledging that (which btw countries like UK doesn’t want to recognise its past in slavery) we need to recognise the fact that situation NOW is very different. Iran was a country with 2500 history of monarchy. Whilst some kings were a disservice some like Shah and his father Reza Shah genuinely and passionately loved Iranians of any kind and their country. The savages that are ruling Iran NOW are aliens that are loathed and hated by Iranians for the atrocities they are committing against mankind and very much loved by countries like UK and weak leaders such as Theresa May who love licking Mullah’s asses for business...

Spanky, This whole comparison thing becomes irrelevant when you compare apples with oranges.... China despite what you say is growing rapidly economically and from the perspective of their influence in the world. The dire situation in Iran is untenable.... Let’s deal with realities NOW rather than become a revisionist. These fucktard mullahs in Iran have destroyed everything Iran stood for... They have no hesitation to literallly kill half the population for their own survival and keep them hostage. The Iranians were betrayed by this imported revolution 40 years ago. This does not mean that Iranians have to put up with this just because the neighbouring countries are very comfortable with islamic doctrine. This whole argument that just because other countries in the region are not doing very well therefore Iran should also be held to the same stardard is completely flawed IMO.

Whilst I agree in principle with everything you have said here there is a point of contention... There is no need to curse or blame the generation that voted these bunch of thugs into power...After all, they were manipulated and brainwashed to vote mullahs into power....Now that they are in power those generation are pissed off for letting these bunch of islamists rule the country in such a way. I will draw an analogy and describe the current clergy system to a bunch of mafia who use islam and mosques to make deals and steal money. You know very well that most of their wealth portfolio which is the money belonging to Iran is now invested in foreign banks abroad....Lest to say they can feel the anger, resentment and frustration of Iranians with their theocratic system and their draconian measures....These mullahs have sent their kids abroad to enjoy the kind of things Iranians used to have durning shah...Bunch of fucking hypocrites who now tell women to dress like 1400 years ago!

This fucking retarded stupid mullah theocracy in Iran is killing people. Their sick twisted ideology is only to serve them. Bunch of backward antiquated idiots importing their ideology into iranian nation!!! Their support for Hezbollah and Hammas is only to serve their interest not even palestinians....

MEK finds its roots in Tudeh party, which was mainly led and organised by the Iranian jews. They lost to the islamic clergies in 1979-1980's which led to the downfall of 2500 years of monarchy in Iran. Late Shah in his interviews with David Frost (the British TV presenter) referred to Tudeh communist party or the Worker's party as Red and Clergy islamists as Black forces countering the monarchy.Neither Tudeh nor clergies ever had the interest of Iranians in their agenda.

Countries and their governments especially the minor ones do what is best for their people especially when facing a formidable enemy like Germany...Hitler tried it with Hungary and also a branch of kozaks and it paid off. However, his influence over Iran to hand over its jews never materialised. Thanks to Reza Shah!

I can read German and know what the letter says....But then again if that is what it takes for Reza Shah to keep Iran out of the war and save the lives why not? This has been the policy of many western governments to date sucking up to tyrranical regimes in yhe ME to keep the business going....

If there was an admiration towards Hitler was perhaps Reza Shah's intention to keep Iran out of the war and save the lives of Iraninan jews. That's a plausible explanation.

The SS man you are referring to is YOUR uncle killing jews and others. You don't seem to grasp what it means having a family member who is directly involved in the atrocities of WW2.... So fucking what? At least Reza Shah wasn't a murderer of jews unlike Germans and their European/ North American branch. Again so fucking what? So you get tangled up in semantics I won't.... Because deep down I wouldn't have the certain feel of guilt neither mine nor my ancestors of any involvement in the atrocities of WW2. Unlike some...I don't give a to$$ what else you think or feel... As for Citizen, he can speak for himself but I am pretty certain criticising the policies of a government of a country does not mean hating that country. That includes Israel.

Meh....You have accused citizen of being a hater of Israel and you cannot back it up. You seem to forget a crucial moment in the war with Soviet Union when Hitler's focus despite advise from his generals was diverted to proxy wars with the allies in North Africa... I am actually glad that the US was helping out Iran during those era more so than the stingy British who literally sucked up (and still do) the blood from the resources in a country...Iran would rather deal with US than the conniving brits that have always been cryptic in political involvement. It definitely wasn't Iran...Next.....

So Let’s get ghis straight....Your uncle is German SS serving in Yugoslavia killing jews and others during WW2 and the other german uncles (presumably blood brothers) served at RCAF killing other Germans...Yeah I get that.... btw, didn’t you say here your father was a mechanic from Lancaster Halifax!? How did your dad feel about his brother serving for german Volga SS? Reza Shah being an admirer of The Third Reich (As you keep presenting it and I disagree with that assertion) is not the same as someone actually committing those crimes. Reza Sha viewed Iranian jews as other Iranians and defended this against Hitler’s Nazi ideology. This is documented and a fact based on the article published in Holocaust Memorial that I have already presented here..... Fascist allies like Mussolini, whom Hitler went to his rescue when the opposition were getting too strong in Italy are factual evidence of real monsters...

As someone who had a nazi uncle who served for Nazi in Yugoslavia it is very rich coming from you.... “Who the phack are you DOP whatever/ whoever you are coming on this forum preaching about integrity and honesty?” bloody hypocrites....Your blood type uncle had the lives of jews at his hand when he was serving for SS in Yugoslavia and you come on this board making assumptions about Iran!?!?!? What planet are you from!? As for the rest of your drivel it is based on hypothesis that never materialised during WE2. Anyone reading your posts can see your use of words if Iran did this/ that... Let’s sanitize those bloody Europeans that had the blood of many perople including jews at their hand.

What is your point coming on a thread about democracy in Iran discussing nazi germany?

So if that is the case then what are you babbling on about? Is it just me having a difficult time understanding what point you are trying to make here?