kactus

There you go.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/zelensky-calls-for-admission-of-guilt-justice-after-iran-admits-to-mistakenly-shooting-down-ukrainian-plane/2020/01/11/2c85cb08-33d8-11ea-971b-43bec3ff9860_story.html

According to the story I heard the man who was operating the anti missile asked the command centre for confirmation on the target and nothing was heard. So he decided to take action....

Wrong fella. Fine target shooting is for the one. You know the one that starts with Ka according to Hebrew sorry I meant Hebe rue.

I am just saddened by the lost lives of so many people on that airline. They were there to visit families and friends for Christmas and were caught in this cross fire....

....Yes in terms of policies....But....they are still different leaders....

Look I don’t give a shekel about either of these two nut jobs just like I don’t give a dime about Bibi and many other world leaders. But common talking about a man who died 22 years ago responsible for the deaths of Iranians on that plane raises the question if one really understands what is going on in that region. The politics in that region is quite complicated as it is....Besides....we have our own fake news to contend with let’s not add to that shall we? Lol

So you are a mind reader now are you rue? It is not a misspelling....It is a totally different person that was duscussed here which has no bearing on the deaths on so many civilians dying on that Iranian flight. Not that you care....

....No problem.....You stepped up to it unlike some other members on this forum.

It is a joint responsibility with the authorities I believe which why I said following the right protocol. If they had followed the right protocol then yes this grave mistake could have been avoided. I don't claim to be an expert in flight aviation and for this incident will hold the Iranian government responsible. However, to say that passengers should have known better in the absence of credible directives from ATC, the governing authority and the airline and therefore responsible to pay compensation to the airline is illogical and insensitive to the families who have lost loved ones....

....Who the phack is Ali Khaimeni!?!?! You cannot even get a name right and butt into another conversation as usual... It has nothing to do with you to come here, do some random rants and derail the subject.....

So by your own admission ownership of oil gave context for the coup. It's Iranian oil btw....Without the oil those wells are as good as nothing.... It wasn't just the Tudeh party....Dr Mossadegh had been democratically elected by the parliament which did not just consist of Tudeh party. The CIA were involved on the backdrop of Brits to collude and remove Mossadegh before nationalisation of oil. As said the collaborations with Russians was not the main precursor. The nationalisation of oil was....

It is the airline's responsibilty to assess whether it is safe to carry out the flight following the right protocols. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the timing of the retaliatory attack on the two bases in Iraq and the subsequent flight after a few hours I would not envisage any of the passengers would have known the full extent of this. No body knows....

If you want to sound like a person with a stature with credible and well informed knowledge of the country being discussed here then you should know that “Khomeini” died 22 years ago!!! And although his corpse has rotten in hell, in no way is there any relevance to the death of 176 innocent passengers some of whom were Canadians.....Just sayin......

Absolute utter non sense blaming the passengers for a cock up by simply carried out by an official with triggered finger over the button. I am disgusted by lack of empathy for passengers (Ukranians included) and their family who have to carry the burden of their deaths over a piece of metal and pay compensation!?!? It is like saying the passengers knew the plane was going to be shut down. What a ridiculous statement.

176 people dead and what you are essentially left with is almost 80mil Iranians taken hostage by an old ayatollah. What we would never know in public domain is how western governments are colluding with this barbaric regime for their own gain whether financial or winning the hearts of people before elections....

The nationalisation of Iranian oil by Dr Mossadegh didn’t wash down with the Brits who did not want to have any of it. According to the constitution the nomination of Dr Mossadegh in parliament was by popular vote. One cannot negate the fact that he was the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953 and his idea of nationalising the oil showed a conflict of interest with the Brits whom particularly through BP had a vested interest. The nationalisation of the oil was the main precursor to orchestrate the coup.... I do agree that the Russian didn’t want to leave Iran post invasion of UK from south and Russians from North....This is not only unique to Iran however and this is the sort of behaviour we have seen from Russians across the region and the Baltics.....

The Shah was already the monarchy and the King in Iran. He fled the country with Empress Farah in 1953 for dust to settle down. As much as I disagree with an assassination of a political figure, the emergence of Khomeini coming back from the shadows after living many years in exile is no coincidence. It was orchestrated by the West seeing through that his plane arrives safe at Iran and we witness the rules of Ayatollahs that took the upper hand on Tudeh party supporters who were essentially communists... But going back to your point regarding the scenario if the plane carrying Shah in 1953 was shot down one can argue if the coup did not take against Dr Mossadegh by the Brits and US there was no need for Shah to leave the country temporarily. I think the absence of democracy flourishing in Iran in 1953 created a vaccum in the Iran’s socio-politics, which inevitably led played to 1979 revolution. Things may have been may have been much different in 1978 and the revolution. Shah in his interviews always warned two forces existent in Iran. Reds representing communism and Blacks representing Islamists....

I would seriously question the motivation behind this Twitter thing whether it is to get more votes at home or a genuine concern for the people of Iran...

Would have been nice if the plane that carried Khomeini from Paris to Tehran was intercepted by a missile...(same predicament as recent Ukrainian flight) Of course that didn’t happen since there were french crewmen on that flight making damn sure the plane carrying Khomeini touches the soil in Tehran airport.....That was 42 years ago to be exact and the rest is history.....

Qassem Soleimani was an apparatus of the Iranian regime taken out by the US. IMO he was a bargaining chip provided on a silver plate to the Americans by the Ayatollahs as his gradual strength through the ranks over the years posed a real threat to the supreme leader. He was a peasant that became a general, a general who became an icon fighting off ISIS and keeping them at bay from Iran borders and yet part of the same corrupt ideology inherent in the Iranian regime that ultimately killed him off.... One would argue that the following events post his assassination is only good for Iranian leadership and Trump’s re-election chances. The so called “hard revenge” by Iran was nothing but a ‘contrived’ scenario collaborated by the supreme leader of Iran and president Trump each for their own chances of appeasing to the nation. Iran’s peculiar attack on “US bases” in Iraq without even a single casualty poses many questions....There were no American casualties. So far so good. It was win win scenario for both Iran and the US. Ayatollahs get the popular vote for domestic consumption propagating that we have given a ‘slap to the Great Satan’ and the foreign minister of Iran Zarif stating that the matter about Qassem Soleimani “is now concluded”. With Soleimani out of the picture the chapter is now closed and a new chapter begins the standoff between Iran, US and its allies....On the other hand Trump is looking triumphant as ever by taking “the general out”. This will dilute his impeachment case and increase his chances in securing a second term.... But the real losers here are the Iranian people that are caught in the midst of fire....Literally.... The death toll of 176 passengers on a recent Ukrainian flight by an anti missile was a terrible tragedy. The Iranian regime admitted to this. In an ironic way, this event resonates a similar attack in 1988 by the US navy ship in the Persian Gulf in which 290 Iranian passengers were onboard flight PS752 hit by a US missile. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/10/middleeast/iran-air-flight-655-us-military-intl-hnk/index.html

Qassem Soleimani was an apparatus of the Iranian regime taken out by the US. IMO he was a bargaining chip provided on a silver plate to the Americans by the Ayatollahs as his gradual strength through the ranks over the years posed a real threat to the supreme leader. He was a peasant that became a general, a general who became an icon fighting off ISIS and keeping them at bay from Iran borders and yet part of the same corrupt ideology inherent in the Iranian regime that ultimately killed him off.... One would argue that the following events post his assassination is only good for Iranian leadership and Trump’s re-election chances. The so called “hard revenge” by Iran was nothing but a ‘contrived’ scenario collaborated by the supreme leader of Iran and president Trump each for their own chances of appeasing to the nation. Iran’s peculiar attack on “US bases” in Iraq without even a single casualty poses many questions....There were no American casualties. So far so good. It was win win scenario for both Iran and the US. Ayatollahs get the popular vote for domestic consumption propagating that we have given a ‘slap to the Great Satan’ and the foreign minister of Iran Zarif stating that the matter about Qassem Soleimani “is now concluded”. With Soleimani out of the picture the chapter is now closed and a new chapter begins the standoff between Iran, US and its allies....On the other hand Trump is looking triumphant as ever by taking “the general out”. This will dilute his impeachment case and increase his chances in securing a second term.... But the real losers here are the Iranian people that are caught in the midst of fire....Literally.... The death toll of 176 passengers on a recent Ukrainian flight by an anti missile was a terrible tragedy. The Iranian regime admitted to this. In an ironic way, this event resonates a similar attack in 1988 by the US navy ship in the Persian Gulf in which 290 Iranian passengers were onboard flight PS752 hit by a US missile. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/10/middleeast/iran-air-flight-655-us-military-intl-hnk/index.html

Yes, brown nosing is all what you guys are good for....

I would rather you stop being a hypocrite especially one having an uncle serving for SS

His influence in deterring and controlling ISIS was monumental and he did succeed. However, with him gone now there is a vacuum and the US has literally given a green light to ISIS.

In 25 years when it is declassified by CIA.....But then why would it matter?