kactus

You make this statement about Mossadegh and then accusing me of making stuff up? Glad everyone can see this....

You were the one quoting Mossadegh jailed opponents and employed thugs. Seems now your are back pedaling.

You are revising the history to suit a version of history that suits you but far from truth... There you go clearly spelled out who the thugs were and by whom they were paid...

Alphaville....Blast from the past...

Yes it is....So?

The point is collusion of communists and Islamist's before revolution remains mooted...The involvement of the US and British is undisputed. There are many sources to validate this as has been already shared. Tudeh party consisted of People's Worker's Party, Iranian jews, Azeries and kurds and some others opposed Shah as did Islamist...

errrrrm...Mosadegh died in 1967. Iranian revolution that brought Mullahs to power 1978.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

There is little validity in this as the street thugs were employed by those who were against him. I am really surprised where you are getting all these stories from as many sources would dispute it all...

Another documentary the part at 1 min 50 sec.... http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/08/20/480859/1953-coup-in-Iran-

Interesting documentary I encourage you to watch which talks about the British interference:

Thanks K. Very interesting indeed! That was a speculation but it turns out to be true... Surely the Russians must be embarrassed by this as they have been denying the Flynn tip off all the time...

And the point is this whole agenda of immigration policy is driven by Donald Trump selective ban on 7 Muslim nations. Justin Trudeau whilst he doesn't agree with Trump's policies he didn't come to US to lecture him about this. You are suggesting that US is dictating the terms to Canada concerning the immigration which isn't the case.... So I refer back to the question if it is a Muslim ban by the Trump administration why is it that Saudi Arabia is not on that list? I sure as hell don't think Trudeau sees eye to eye with Trump on this immigration ban.

This is what you said... It is is very relevant to the topic. If you cannot answer the question asked by Gosthacked and me that's fine...

It makes me wonder if Flynn received bribery from Russians

A good part of this conversation has been about ring fencing immigration policy between US/Canada and Muslim ban. Why do you think GH's post is not relevant?

I read about this. Here's another analysis from BBC on this meeting.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38959441 My personal opinion is that Mr Trudeau showed an exemplary leadership skills in this meerting...

I think you are right to a certain extent on the US and Iranian collaboration in Iraq. Afterall, Saddam wasn't exactly an ally of Iran. The bit that I disagree with your argument is that US has also privided support indirectly to ISIS through the proxy ally Saudi Arabia that practises Wahabism. If you look at the history most of these fanatics were raised and trained in Saudi Arabia. Osama Bin Ladin?

The attack on Iran from the North by the Russians and the British from the South was done on the basis to take hold of oil reserves and to prevent the supplies to Germans during the war. It is well documented and known... This has nothing to do with toppling of democratically elected Dr Mossadegh in the coup of 1953 orchastrated by the CIA and MI6 and everything to do with him wanting to nationalise the Iranian oil industry to end the profitable margins that BP enjoyed. Well guess what that didn't go too well with the Brits who were pissed at the idea of nationalising the oil and they started to make up stories that Iran is falling to the hands of communism by Soviets whilst Dr Mossadegh was the Prime Minister. The Brits convinced the US with this fabricated story which led to the 1953 coup. A group of people were paid and encouraged by CIA to take down the streets of Tehran and protest against Mossadegh and beating up his loyalists. This clash and unrest accross Tehran led to the prosecution of Mossadegh in the court and he was put under house arrest which was not his fault. No ofcourse it isn't a James Bond style acting since it didn't exist at the time but that's how the inspirations with those movies started in the 60's... Iran's 1946 treaty.., "After Germany broke its pact with the Soviets and invaded the USSR in June 1941, the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union jointly occupied Iran as a preventative measure, starting on August 25, 1941, and justified their invasion by the need to use Iran as a gateway for delivery of Lend-Lease supplies to the Soviet Union.[5] As a result, Rezā Shāh was forced to abdicate and exiled to Mauritius; his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the crown prince, became the new monarch. Their joint ‘Tripartite Treaty’ of January 1942 declared that their military presence was not an occupation, proclaimed Iran to be their ally, and pledged to withdraw their troops within six months of the end of the war.[5] Throughout the rest of the war, the United Kingdom and the United States used Iran as an important supply line to the Soviet war effort against Nazi Germany. Thirty thousand non-combatant US troops arrived to move these supplies, and transit through Iran was later termed a "bridge to victory". At the Teheran Conference in 1943, the Big Three gave additional assurances concerning Iran’s future sovereignty and territorial integrity, as well as a promise to assist in its post-war reconstruction and development.[5]"

Just curious to understand the mindset if you can without making this personal.... Which bit of the ban on Muslim green card holders and citizens of those 7 countries is constitutional or fake news as you put it?

Syria wants a lot of things but you are forgetting there are big stakeholders here. US, Russia and China. They all want a piece of cake without crossing each other's path. Unfortunately as is the case Syria is being used as a pawn for proxy wars and flexing muscles by the Americans versus Chinese/ Russians.

Very blinkered and biased view from you for the provision of this context especially when you ignore the repeated threats to attack Iran coming from BIBI in the US congress and at home over many years to please his crowd. If I remember correctly it was him who falsely accused Iran of crossing a red line of getting close to nuclear bomb...Turned out to be complete hogwash as nuclear watchdog as well as the P+5 confirmed there has been no nuclear activity since that agreement.... Anyway this thread is not about Israel and you do have the tendency to side track and linking everything to Israel for reasons known only to you...Afterall the Israeli policymakers are not worried about nuclear armed Iran. What they are worried about or at least was the case till a few years ago was the fact that a nuclear armed Iran will tilt the balance of power in favour of Iran in the Middle East. This is not from a military perspective as Israel has over 200 nuclear warheads at its disposal! This is from political perspective...This is why this has never stopped fear mongers to scare the sh@te out of everyone that there will be arms race between the Persian Gulf Arab countries and Turkey but nevertheless hasn't stopped the US and other countries to sell arms to the Saudis and arm them to the teeth on multi billion contracts under the premise that they are under threat from Iran. Plays quite nicely with Israelis....

Syria is a perfect example. Geo-politically it has a perfect location from its shores to reach the rest of the world...Russians know this, Chinese know this, Iranians know this and so do the Americans. Only the superficial bunch try to detract from the facts on the ground. All you need is the US/ saudi backed ISIS fighting the russians and other rebels to create a mayhem. And that is what happens in Syria today...US has not been directly involved in Syria but only through proxy wahabis backed and financed by their stakeholders to form the ISIS....This is a prime example of proxy wars tested over and over in the Middles East and elsewhere.

Turkey wants to pose itself as key player in the Middle East but the reality is they aren't... Russia and Iran and Turkey have been involved in negitiations regarding Syria. Difference is they have different agenda.

On one hand you guys blame Obama's administration in the past for the current f&ck up by Trump on banning muslims and now you are saying the ex head of CIA wasn't right to admonish Trump! Cannot have it both ways...

Anyone seen this? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/10/shinzo-abe-donald-trump-earpiece-translation Ofcourse since Trump has vested business interests in Japan everything that comes out of the Japanese Prime Minister should be music to your ear Mr Trump...no earpiece and nodding your head. Looks like America first is substituted for Trump's business first lost in translation.