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ah yeah. okay. so does this mean you're okay with the illegal settlement expansion?

what is your point?

israel is stealing more land and building more of these illegal settlements. you want to use your predictable anti-semite card to try to stop criticism of something that is wrong and illegal, go for it.

which country has the second largest jewish population in the middle east? answer: the islamic republic of iran. this is not about intolerance for jews or christians, this is about intolerance for the zionist ideology. zionism should be intolerated just as much as wahhabism should be. the best thing to happen to the middle east is for the west to not support the zionist ideology.

zionists are a cancer to this world.

source how many more 'obstacles to peace efforts' must we see from israel until the zionist apologists admit that israel doesn't give a shit about peace and international law?

c'mon clint. i would destroy him, but i'm too nice of a guy. plus, it's obvious that nature already beat me to it.

they're not arabs? everyone who was an arab in that region was called an arab. he points to: ...600,0000 Arabs live there, who before the sense of justice of the world have exactly the same rights to their homes as we have to our National Home. it is obvious that he points to a specific group with the population of 600,000 who "have exactly the same rights to their homes". it doesn't get any clearer that he recognized the natives of the land. it's counter productive for you to try to re-write history.

more babbling and uselessness. i will take kuzadd's recommendation and ignore you until you're able to come up with something relevant to the topic and not something useless, like every one of your posts in this thread.

you missed the point. you said there were no palestinians, when in fact, Chaim Weizmann talks about them and their rights.

now you're trying to equate me posting a self-explanatory news article to your inflammatory quote in regards to hirsh. you're babbling and avoiding to accept the fact that your post was useless. you're a dishonest person.

why did you post the following? QUOTE Seymore Hersh...the most gullible investigative reporter I've ever encountered. ---Arthur Schlesinger, Jr what is anyone supposed to gain from you posting that inflammatory comment towards hirsh?

are you trying to say that Hersh, the Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist, the same guy who brought the first abu gharib torture issue, is lying? how do you expect people to take you seriously? you're a dishonest person.

jerryspringer may not give a shit about children being sodomized, but i do: Hersh: Children sodomized at Abu Ghraib, on tape After Donald Rumsfeld testified on the Hill about Abu Ghraib in May, there was talk of more photos and video in the Pentagon's custody more horrific than anything made public so far. "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse," Rumsfeld said. Since then, the Washington Post has disclosed some new details and images of abuse at the prison. But if Seymour Hersh is right, it all gets much worse. Hersh gave a speech last week to the ACLU making the charge that children were sodomized in front of women in the prison, and the Pentagon has tape of it. The speech was first reported in a New York Sun story last week, which was in turn posted on Jim Romenesko's media blog, and now EdCone.com and other blogs are linking to the video. We transcribed the critical section here (it starts at about 1:31:00 into the ACLU video.) At the start of the transcript here, you can see how Hersh was struggling over what he should say: "Debating about it, ummm ... Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."

it's nice that you like to pull statistics like "nobody else", out of your ass, but don't get upset when you're corrected. you seem to have the same view of majority of church goers in america: More than half of people who attend services at least once a week — 54 percent — said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is “often” or “sometimes” justified. Only 42 percent of people who “seldom or never” go to services agreed, according the analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. congrats.

Palestine must be built up without violating the legitimate interests of the Arabs.. Palestine is not Rhodesia... 600,0000 Arabs live there, who before the sense of justice of the world have exactly the same rights to their homes as we have to our National Home. [Chaim Weizmann, addressing the Fourteenth Zionist Congress in Vienna, 1925, quoted in Tessler, Mark, A History of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Bloomington, Indiana University Press, 1994 p. 181] link

DoP is the forum's chicken little. he's also an existential athiest who supports the creation of a jewish state.

please post comments made by me which shows that i have rabid hatred for jews. better yet, why not report it to the forum moderators which i'm sure would take action towards racist comments. if you cannot find such comments, then please STFU.

there is no doubt that there are problems in the muslim culture. however, being pissed off at israel, the jewish state, for doing what they've been doing to the palestinians for the past 60+ years, with the West's blessing, has helped to fuel the rage and anger. this rage and anger has created more followers for extremism.

typical. another ad hominem comment. majority of your comments are valueless.

lol. really now? you're pathetic and a dishonest person.

rue... you've gone into another one of your long-winded rants. all i said was that less than 10% of the population of the area was jewish, before the mass zionist immigration. immigration by mostly eastern european jews who have nothing but biblical connection to the region. There is no attempt by me to twist anything. in fact, my point was to untangle the twists, half-truths and lies that DoP tries to spread. there is nothing wrong with discussing the picture of the region before israel was established. my personal opinion is that the creation of israel was wrong. not because i i have some strange dislike for them - that's furthest from the truth - but because i feel israel was created unjustly and was forced upon the natives of that land. i have mentioned numerous times that there is no going back and that israel is here to stay. i have said that both sides should honour their obligation to follow the UN mandate and the resolutions. if you agree that there should be two states and that both sides should honour and follow the UN (which created israel), then we are in the same boat.

oh? is Ilan Pappe another self-hating jew because he shares the truth and not propaganda? heh. Ilan Pappe is not the only historian (jewish and non-jewish) who has quoted gurion where he clearly talks about cleansing the state of arabs/muslims. guirion's quotes can be found easily. look it up. you want to keep dancing, avoiding and denying this simple fact, go for it. i don't expect anything else from you.