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  1. sure there was. unless the british were making the word up when referring to the region as palestine. or maybe talk it over with ben gurion who referred to it as palestine: "...Therefore if a war is extended to cover the whole of Palestine, our greatest gain will be the Galilee." "Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants." Ben-Gurion often returned to this point, emphasizing that Palestinian Arabs had "the full right" to an independent economic, cultural, and communal life, but not political. (Shabtai Teveth, p. 37-38) ben gurion just kicked your ass.
  2. eh? how is ""who has been admitted to the territory of the German Reich within the boundaries of December 31, 1937 as a refugee or expellee of German ethnic origin or as the spouse or descendant of such person" similar to the "law of return" in israel? you don't need to show any evidence or document that you have jewish parents or grandparents who have lived in the region. you just show that you follow judaism and bam, citizenship! meanwhile, palestinians living in israel are unable to bring their spouses into israel. you're digging your own hole.
  3. wtf are you talking about? everyone called the region palestine. there was a palestine mandate drafted after the first world war. ben gurion referred to the area as such and to the people who lived there as palestinian. can you surprise me for once and share something truthful?
  4. for all of those, you must have a parent or at least a grandparent who was born in the country. law of return says if you're jewish, as in the religion of judaism, then you can come to israel. you don't need to have any family ties to the region. majority of the jews who immigrated to palestine had/have no family ties to the region.
  5. to palestinian parents. the russian jews and many of the european jews have no connection to israel. before the mass zionist immigration, less than 10% of palestine was jewish. those jews lived peacefully with the muslim and christians. but i guess that's something you rather not talk about.
  6. 'law of return' is a racist immigration policy.
  7. wtf are you talking about? they obviously know what's best for them if they've elected them. what's wrong with you? the people elected mossadeq into power and they elected hamas into power. both were legitimate elections. no. it's your simplistic right vs left or you're either with us or against us bullshit that has created your circle jerk.
  8. until a group of foreign people started immigrating in mass numbers and claimed ontario for themselves. right?
  9. krusty.. you continue to make excuses like this is a saudi issue. even though you cannot find an official writing saying "no jews", lets pretend that you were able to find it in official writing that saudi has said "no jewish" people. fine. saudi arabia is a piece of shit country. i have never said otherwise. end result: israel's immigration and citizenship policies are closer to that of saudi arabia's than they are to the western countries like canada and U.S. israel's immigration and citizenship policies are racist.
  10. not being as simple and one dimensional as you, i see things differently. not agreeing with the shah does not mean that i agree with the mullahs. it doesn't matter how many times you repeat it. many of my iranian friends would say the same thing. shah was a step above the mullahs, as far as the state of the iranian people but he was not the elected leader and he sold out to the west. not to mention the brutal savak organization that make the basij look like dutch police. more blah blah? not surprising. we talked about being one dimensional. i don't think you've taken any poli sci courses. only simpletons who get their que from entertainment news respond the way you do. they've got you hooked on this left vs right thing, don't they? it must be exciting for you, wulf, bonam, borg and jerryseinfeld to have your very own circle jerk. iran made pretty good money from the world's increasing appetite for oil. imagine how much more they could have made if a big chunk of the profit didn't go to the foreigners. there is more about iran that you probably don't know. iran's rural areas were underdeveloped and was heading the other direction as far as literacy, employment and life expectancy. as shitty as the current regime is, they've at least improved the lives of millions living int he rural areas of iran by actually spending money on development. another fact that you probably don't know is that women's literacy rate increased from the teens to almost 80% in iran during the mullah years. not to mention the increase of women in the work force. being allowed to wear mini skirts during the shah years was a right that every woman should have, but it was also a mask to cover the real situation of women in those years. iran's GDP fell hard during the iran/iraq war but it has surpassed the shah years since the late 90's. this, despite the heavy sanctions. so conclusion; no, iran was not all rosy and fun during the shah years. listen to the families of thousands of people who were killed by savak for speaking out against the government. not to mention the rural community that was left out which also fueled the hatred for the shah. the iranian people are not stupid. they are against the current corrupt government but they also know that they would not want to go back to the shah years. i guess it's your arrogance and bigotry that has you supporting the overthrow of a democratically elected official of a country. shame on you.
  11. it's hard to believe, but you somehow managed to go even lower after your first post in this thread. you never contribute. all you do is poop on every single thread with your simple, one dimensional posts that reek of blind nationalism and then get all pissy when someone reminds you how useless you are.
  12. because the shah got mad bling for allowing the foreign companies to set that up. there was no money for him and his buddies to allow iran to develop their own. why else would it be?
  13. end result; the palestinians had their land taken away from them, systematically. this continues today with the expansion of the illegal settlements. you keep making up excuses and we'll continue to see the facts, like the maps.
  14. oh god. stop being so dull and one-dimensional. all this shit about left and right is for the kiddies who watch foxnews and the situation room. mossadeq wanted to nationalize the oil so that the people of iran made money from it and not some foreign company. mossadeq is still regarded as one of the favourite leaders in iran's history. the iranian people, most that you speak to, will tell you this. just because you're okay with iranian oil money going to a foreign company and not to the people, it doesn't mean the iranian people feel the same way.
  15. because reagan farted on them for several decades and that made them go bankrupt?
  16. who apologized for them? what are you babbling about now?
  17. you're not as smart as your wikipedia information.
  18. no you didn't. you provided a link to a rawraw zionist site with broken links. nice try, krusty. this is besides the point anyway. the question is whether or not israel is a jewish state and whether or not they give preferred treatment to jews, thus making them racist. the answer is yes. israel's immigration and citizenship laws are closer to saudi arabia's than they are to united states or canada's.
  19. you mean the one that ran out of money and collapsed?
  20. i'm glad you have so much time to go through all those wikipedia writing and then give us a nice short version of it. thank you for always following your quotes with your wikipedia links. the minister of defense, ariel sharon, was found to be personally responsible for the massacre. it's fitting that he later became the prime minister of israel. another case of israel electing a war criminal into the office.
  21. what did reagan do to be one of america's best presidents, in your eyes?
  22. you are a simple and dull person. if one believes that removing a democratically elected leader and then putting in a puppet is wrong, it doesn't mean that they agree with what the mullahs have done.
  23. they've passed the point of no return. there will be change no matter how this uprising turns out. this is a struggle behind doors, between rafsanjani and khamenei. both former presidents want power and both will have to give into giving more freedom to the people. this is truly a special time. it's weapons vs internet technology. how else would the iranian people be heard and the world be brought closer to the issue? you wouldn't see this in pakistan and iraq.
  24. neither pakistan or iran are arab countries.
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