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many jews dislike zionism as well. i'm not against jews, i'm against the ideology and actions of zionism just like i am against the ideology of wahabism. only uneducated and ignorant people would equate criticism of zionism or a country to racism. who cares what ADL and foxman say. they're an israeli lobby group. here is an example of you sharing misinformation, thus, making you a liar. you asked me to point out when you're lying and i am. here is the full entry from wikipedia: a discrepancy over the usage of a logo or symbol does not mean that the red cross is anti-jew and will create a fake report about israel's war crimes. you're showing yet again what a typical lying, anti-semite screaming zionist who will do whatever it takes to divert criticism of israel's illegal actions.

we already know what hamas has done is wrong and illegal. why is there a need to focus on that? i rather focus on issues and people who are apologists for selected war crimes. at the end of it all, over 1000 palestinians (many of them civilians) were killed and 13 israelis. that is an understandable reason why there is a bigger focus on israel, don't you think?

lols. oh yeah. she totally owes israel an apology.

you skipped the comment to your own post. just so you don't miss it again: a lot of them are anti-jew? lets pretend that "AI admits bias when dealing with democracies vs more repressed societies". does that make them anti-jew? how is the red cross anti-jew? what about human rights watch? how are they anti-jew? you seem to equate criticism of israel to being anti-jew. it seems that you're a little confused.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Israel has allowed a former U.S. congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney, to return home days after detaining her and other activists on board a ship carrying relief supplies for Gaza, a pro-Palestinian group said on Monday. Israeli authorities intercepted the vessel, which had 21 activists on board, on June 30 and said it would not be permitted to enter Gaza's coastal waters because of security risks in the area and an existing naval blockade. how fascist of israel. who else arrests and detains people for trying get relief supplies to those who desperately need it?

those are figures from the IDF. the IDF is known to lie. Red cross is a reputable organization who has been around for over a century. their main objective is not to gain land, but to save lives of all people around the world. the redcross is not the only expert organization that does not agree with IDF's body count. there are also amnesty and HRW and numerous others.

a lot of them are anti-jew? lets pretend that "AI admits bias when dealing with democracies vs more repressed societies". does that make them anti-jew? how is the red cross anti-jew? what about human rights watch? how are they anti-jew? you seem to equate criticism of israel to being anti-jew. it seems that you're a little confused.

what? are you saying that all these organizations criticizing israel's actions that go against international law, jew haters?

the title of the thread says 'committed by israel and hamas'. i don't think anyone disputes the crimes committed by hamas (firing rockets into civilian territories), is there? so what say you, dancer?

because we're not giving $3billion a year and political immunity to these countries.

congratulations for finally reaching the bottom of the pit with DoP.

you're babbling again. if palestinians "choose" to rally around their leaders in order to protect them, that's their decision. there is a huge difference between that and israeli soldiers going into palestinian buildings and forcing them to stay in the main floor thus using them as human shields. you reek of hypocrisy and lies. you don't support either state? what bullshit.

krusty says one thing, ben gurion says another: "No Zionist can forgo the smallest portion of the Land Of Israel. A Jewish state in part of Palestine is not an end, but a beginning ..... Our possession is important not only for itself ... through this we increase our power, and every increase in power facilitates getting hold of the country in its entirety. Establishing a small state .... will serve as a very potent lever in our historical effort to redeem the whole country." (Righteous Victims, p. 138)

zionism is bad for this world. just as much as wahabism and any other racist and extreme ideology.

you're lying. you told me to remind you of it when you do. all i support is international law. it's too bad you don't and instead make excuses for some who break it.

ben gurion never accepted the borders of the partition. not only ben gurion, but also the other jewish leaders. they all knew that this was a ticket to create a palestinian state with the opportunity to expand the borders. that's what they've done since. it's too bad that facts and history and what is happening today trumps all the babbling that you do.

who cares about PETA. when people are suffering from the actions of others, something needs to be done. there are human rights violations all over the world. some worse than what is happening to the gazans. but what separates those incidents is that western governments don't support those human rights violations. also, those who are committing them do not receive $3billion a year from the U.S. what is happening in that region is one of the biggest reasons we have extremism today, on all sides. it fans the flames of extremism. because it clearly shows that western countries don't practice what they preach. if they supported an end to human rights violations, they would not support israel's treatment of palestinians.

you lied. stop trying to weasel your way out of it. the report has confirmed that hamas did not use the civilians as human shields. your link to the speech proves nothing. you wanted me to show you when you lie? i did. now continue to try to weasel your way out of it. you've reduced yourself to a babbling fool where there are just too many holes in what you type. you've become useless like DoP. the report by amnesty has shown, indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets including ambulances. these were done by precision guided missiles from drones. all evidence collected shows that there were no militants around where many of these civilian targets were. israel says otherwise but has yet been able to show any proof of this. why? because they're lying just like you have been doing frequently. there are incidents after incidents in the report showing israel's attacks which constitute war crimes. stop babbling with half-assed posts and instead, if you really believe israel has not committed war crimes, discuss all these incidents that have been shown by amnesty. or you can make it easy and do what DoP does; say that all these human rights organizations are being tricked by hamas. what a wanker. deal with this report from page 48: 2.1 PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS USED AS “HUMAN SHIELDS” During Operation “Cast Lead” Israeli forces repeatedly took over Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip forcing families to stay in a ground-floor room while they used the rest of their house as a military base and sniper position – effectively using the families, both adults and children, as “human shields” and putting them at risk.72 While soldiers wore protective body armour and helmets and shielded themselves behind sandbags as they fired from the houses, the Palestinian inhabitants of the houses had no such protection. the evidence and report follows this.

oh yeah. thanks for bringing this back. the rights organizations have concluded that israel committed war crimes by their unlawful use of WP. it's a shame that you support those who commit war crimes.

the declaration was signed by ben-gurion first and foremost. the rest of the people were spaced separately because ben-gurion was seen as the leader. this same leader has mentioned that they didn't really care for the borders and the plan was 'greater israel' as it has always been.

the questionable translation by MEMRI (who is a questionable organization) does not show this guy saying that they force civilians into human shields. i don't know about you, but to me it sounds like a unity speech of a group that lives under an aggressive military power who is saying that the people will guard their land with their bodies. all this talk about hamas allowing their people to die is such a bizarre way of debating what is happening. i mean, how can these militants stop tanks, planes and helicopters from demolishing the homes and killing civilians? the only way possible is to either lay down their guns, which we know will never happen, or to get into an open field with their guns and shoot at tanks, planes and helicopters... and we know that won't happen because they're not retards. anyway, amnesty is a reputable and experienced organization which does not shy about revealing the truth in these conflicts. you can sit there and hold hands with DoP and bonam and try to say otherwise, but any logical and rational person will agree with all these reputable human rights organizations and their reports. people notice how all of you refuse to talk about ALL the war crimes and the evidence behind that were committed by israel. you guys are apologists for a state that commits war crimes. put that on your resume.

it's the military weapons they get from the US and UK, stupid. that's the difference. killing 300 children did nothing to improve israel's safety.

if palestinians wanted to die, there would be no conflict at the moment. despite all the shit that the zionists have put them through in the past 60+ years, they've managed to remain strong and defiant. that's a characteristic of a people who want to live.

just in case you missed it; 3 israeli civilians died and 300 palestinian children died during the gaza conflict. that's not protecting your citizens, that's unleashing your military and committing war crimes. you don't believe me, talk to the rights organizations. international law helped create israel. many of the laws came into effect after the treatment of the jews during the war. it's ironic seeing so many jews and israeli supporters who are okay with shitting on these laws.

i know you're not a civil engineer because you're making stupid comments like that. the hamas leader has already said he is willing to accept the 1967 UN resolution which calls for recognizing the state of israel. same deal. you can't leave people in a cage like that and let them die. i'd say all of this is against international law, but you don't seem to care for it. israel is not interested in peace talks with the elected government of the palestinians. they prefer unilateral engagement. the palestinians are never going to accept living in an open air prison as bibi is proposing. if that's the best offer, i'm sure many would agree that they can shove the offer up their ass. huh? two different issues and i never agreed with how the sri lankans handled the situation and i certainly never agreed with tamil's actions in the past. it's okay to criticize all sides and not just one. i have never stopped short of criticizing hamas for anything illegal that they've done. so i'm not sure what you're babbling about. what are you talking about? how do you know i don't talk about other issues? i talk about issues with international law as the main factor when it comes to what is right and what is wrong. you, on the other hand, prefer to pick and choose when it applies and when it doesn't.