Molly

I said they don't advertise locally, and stand by it. You found one in-house site in BC that carried anything worth noting, and it was squarely aimed at anyone but locals. IMO, you found NADA. If that's the effort expended to find staff, it's an utterly incompetent effort.

I don't believe wages are the issue at all. I'm still shaking my head over one of those BC ads, in particular... minimum wage, bad work/ working conditions, 54 hour weeks, one day off a week.... I wouldn't touch that job/ad with a 10 foot pole, and don't know anyone who would respond to it... but I know lots of people who'd willingly work long hours, doing a hard job under miserable conditions, for minimum wage... they just wouldn't go seeking so obvious an invitation to eat s***. The ad itself is dehumanizing, and it doesn't take much imagination to expect to be treated very, very badly.

By the way, Dancer, did you look at your links? There were jobs offered there for exactly 2 people in Ontario, neither of which would be filled from offshore in any case; none at all in Nova Scotia. The two in BC are what? Brokers? They have "We intend to actually get our staff overseas." written all over them.

I don't have to. Word of mouth... the same way we found our seasonal staff. One guy gets the job (and an 'in') by pure chance... stumbling by at the right time, being a cousin, or meeting the family through sports or school... and passes the word around home to anyone who's looking for an adventure. The folks who worked seasonally in my old area all came from the Ottawa Valley. Mind you, if you are a seriously bad employer, that word gets around, too.

If they exist, show me.

The Christmas tree farm across the road also does major 'agritourism' stuff, and has a huge Christmas staff. Their entire staff is here from Stephenville area, NL. They didn't advertise locally.

You know something? I call BS on the notion that Canadians won't do it. The fact is that those short-season employers aren't even looking locally. I've lived here for 10 years, surrounded Christmas tree farms, on the edge of the Holland Marsh, just down the road from the apple orchards- I read the ads in the local newspapers, check out the signs on the wall in the grocery store, and peek into the job bank website almost daily, and I've yet to see an ad for tree shearers or apple pickers. Potato graders- one or two ads a year; a couple of ads a year from a nearby organic produce farm; and one place that used to advertise for folks to make wreaths and garlands out of cedar.... and tiny handful of 'labourer' ads out of Bradford. They are outnumbered 50 to 1 by the folks on kijiji offering to do anything for a buck.

I'd be willing to bet they just assumed it would be exactly the same as opting for seasonal flu, and didn't bother to survey anyone to find out. People know the risks associated with seasonal flu, where they fit in the continuum of risk, and overall, what to expect from it. When faced with an unknown, they respond differently. Bad assumptions made bad results.

You should be more specific about what inferences you expect folks to draw from that info, Keepitsimple. I'm gathering that you intend it to suggest that there is no hazard, or that it's same old-same old, and that 'lies are being told'. IF that is what you expect to be drawn, then I would suggest that you have oversimplified to the point of meaninglessness. I'm imagining one pair of very sharp, high quality scissors in a big box of blunted, plastic paper scissors... being dismissed as safe for children, since the box contains only 'scissors'..... Of course this is one more in the complex family of closely related flus.... and it happens to be a bit of an odd (potentially malevolent)one. Did you expect it to defy classification? Did you expect sound-bite news blurbs to explore flu genetics in detail?

What the hey! If we cut off welfare kids so they might have to steal to eat, just think of all the money we'd have saved up to build prisons!

I was just sitting here wondering to myself whether I had ever known anyone on welfare who I'd want to hire, at the time they were on it. Can't think of even one. Pretty well every last one had mental, physical or social/personal issues that made them literally unemployable at any price. None of them were in a good place in their lives, and none of them were living high. Dang, Yes, I have known one. She was working full-time, and doing odd jobs on the side. Welfare was topping up/ guaranteeing her income to what they'd pay to keep her and her family if she didnt have a job.

Say that again, louder, and say it often! Just because your kids get bigger, it doesn't mean they magically become more knowledgeable. Keeping information from them and thus preventing them from learning is the exact opposite of 'good parenting'.

I entered Ontario in the middle of the Harris years, and saw the province through Saskatchewan eyes. You are all overstating reality. Harris made some stupid mistakes, and took the province in some directions it desperately needed to go. Fact is, I'd vote for him right now, particularly given the list of feebly drifting alternatives on the roster... but I sure wouldn't defend him as having done everything right.

I seriously doubt that the police find anything at all useful in the information recorded by the registry... but the opportunities to pile on lazy additional charges, and to stretch the consents to inspection that are part of the registration parcel are likely very convenient indeed.

If it was almost any other item, I'd probably agree that a few weeks delay is no big deal. Most things are nothing like this time sensitive. Getting your flu vaccine half or more of the way through the flu season is as un-screw-up as taking delivery of your wedding dress about half way through the ceremony.

The comparable brand that should be added to the list is 'conservative'. That name all but blinked out of existence, and then was resurrected on a different product, giving that product a major, major boost.

How stunningly parochial! If someone described such miserablle, puny actions, motives and goals for my own province (much less my 'nation'), I'd be deeply insulted.

Bill... you go through a security check before being allowed into the galleries. No IED's allowed.

If the boys bothered to research the impact of this legislation at all, they'd have a good idea how many more would need to be housed, and thus be able to estimate. Look, asking them to have a clue about the effect of what they are proposing is not asking too much. Cripe! Do they even have an objective more solid than firming up the particularly unthinking branch of the 'tough on crime' vote? It certainly doesn't appear so. Mike Harris at least set paramaters by which the success or failure of initiatives could be measured. This is just, "We're doing it because we're doing it. We don't care what effect it has or what it costs." That's not acceptable.

LOL It sure can't go 1000X over budget if there IS no budget, no plan, and no consideration of what the cost might turn out to be.

My apologies, then Fellowtraveller, for replying so snippily. Misreading your intent is not, in the end, much of an excuse for my bad manners. I do hope you checked out that link I provided, though. The map on page 2. Maritime coyotes- Cape Breton coyotes- are very, very recent.

Probably because coyotes are disinclined to hunt in packs all that much, are basically pretty skittish, and prefer tiny game to large game... but that's been covered. It's an odd event. We are talking minute shades of inclination, not hyenas vs. kitty-cats. Fine googling there. I can tell you, though, that the coyotes that live here (Georgian Bay area) are noticeably larger than the coyotes of southern Saskatchewan. A two-letter typo.... but you knew that. (Or at least I hope you did.)

It's history, Michael, and even though it is interesting, not a battle to refight here. It is illustrative, though, that demonstrations in the house are hardly a new phenomenon, and neither is the partison deflection of their objective. Why bother answering the substantive points that they raise when you can dismiss them as a paltry conduct issue?

No one said 'recent'. Read the intro pages to this: http://www.env.gov.nl.ca/env/wildlife/publ...coyotenews2.pdf It speaks of the migration of coyotes, and mentions the possible/likely interbreeding during the migration, as well as adaption. The coyotes of Eastern Canada are a substantially different creature from those of the plains.

There are clearly qute a few things that you don't ... um .... realize.