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What trickle down? If there is no tax system there is no trickle down. Giving tax breaks to the businesses is not trickle down, it is a building up.

Well, ah yes. It occured the same way today with the banks and easy credit. Of course, all the major financiers of socialist states around the world were banks. What easier way is there in aquiring land/wealth/property for the state. All for the "public" good. Of course it is not "conspiracy" in the common sense of the world, since it is all out in the open. You could say he was a sacrificial lamb. When you are a monarchist and militarist, you will be stabbed in the back by larger psychopaths further up the chain.

I never labelled any of his arguments a strawman, you on the other hand...

Sure.. Continue to misrepresent my argument and you get the strawman allegation. So until you actually present an argument that actually addressing my argument, you will get the same response. However, I see you are getting into ad hominems as well. You really can't argue your point can you? Come on try, or stop trolling, August at least attempted to. You? You're "dancing" around it. Or is properly substantiating your argument to hard for you? Ah poor you. Stop trolling.

Ad hominem. You should really stop projecting.

Hmm, looks like it is 8 trillion. The Bloomburg 7.4 figure doesn't seem available at the moment. That was a couple of weeks ago.

700billion.. umm, they have garuanteed 7.4 trillion. Or has it gone up to eight?

The only one making irrelevant comments is you. If you have so many things to do, then why take the time to make strawmen? Very weird.

Hmm... your right. Then MDancer needs to fuck off, as his strawman still stands.

Of course you did. Post #67 "The modern State is an important institution in making our lives civilized. Live with it." So yes, you are right, and you should know. You brought it up.

No, your strawman is from my comment on state corruption, which was made independantly from gold or fiat. You made it into a gold and fiat issue. You however, did bring up the state, and I commented on the state and it's "civility", which I found absurd.

Inside? He is? That is not what Alex Jones says. Oh well. Since when are conspiracies secret?

? Nice strawman. Good try though.

Which one?

Yeah? Deregulation? No better regulation. Does that matter? You make it sound we have access to all information. So loaded question. Ahhh.. I'm scared to try new things.. Yet the only way to do that is through a free-market.

No, it is not. The south is large corporations that offer limited choice that pushes up prices. It is regulated for them and against smaller health alternatives. It will only work when certain regulations are removed. Bill C-61 will make that difficult. Privatizations means alternatives. If the government will only pay for certain kinds of health care, it should not force others out of the way through regulations.

Strawman. This does not address the magnitude of corruption.

I already said the reason for inflation. You are missing some information.

The inlfation was caused by the loss of gold and silver to imports, since Spain became like America today. The money lost value because it was mixed with copper and other metals. So I am not sure what your point here is? Stealing is not good thing either. This is still a non-sequiter.

New gold deposits (not that anyone can do this, as they do not have the means to extract it) do not lead to runaway inflation, although fiat money does. So what, if you are right about gold. When has there ever been runaway inflation with a gold standard? Maybe fiat money based off a gold standard, but that has been manipulated many times. Random? Sure, and constant wars and corruption are civilized. The modern state causes inflation that cripples the poor, it regulates it in a manner to the detriment of the poor, and is essentially a looter and leecher society in the Ayn Randian fashion, and is happening in case if you haven't notice the massive corruption the the "modern" states have allowed through the financial industry, agricultural industry.. but hey you keep on believing that people are leaving farms because they don't want to work there... oh, maybe it is because it is regulated to benifet big agri-business, which has help starve most of the third world, but hey, having the Iraqi destroy their seeds for big-agri is a good thing right?

Meh, I got them all right. I just wished they were not right.

Money has no absolute value, but the laws of supply and demand still apply to into, and that is why it is not a good indicator of how gold is. The fluctuations you indicated with gold are cloudy because money fluctuates a lot more then a steady commodity like gold. gold has always been used as an indicator of moneary inflation or deflation, as gold does neither of them very good or at all. You have yet to say anything.

So you have no argument for the gold price then right? Thought so. How is Ron Paul wrong, Max Keiser, Peter Schiff, Jim Roger, etc? But hey ad hominems are fun!

Better then you following misguided red herrings. Stop being distracted.

If the U.S. and Canada can use the word collateral, so can the terrorists. But hey, lets ignore the fact that the state you supprt ALOUD it to happen. And the U.S. aloud them to do that. Come on read your History. Everyone knew the Nazis torched the Reichstag, everyone knows the U.S. goaded the Japanese to attack the U.S. from their Imperialistic might, and the Muslims allowed the same thing. When will you get out of your hole and see that all the entities are the same and doing some massive projection. They are projecting to the point that they don’t know that their own act brought this upon themselves. Essentially you are saying the same thing when you say they should leave. They come here ignorantly believing that the solutions are here, but it was the western imperialism that has worsen their lifes for the corporateand miliary hand of state imperialism. After working here and seeing their accomplishment mean zero (a doctor or dentist driving a taxi that will never pay for the "school" they "need". They see that is was truly the west that brought upon these problems. Again call it Karma. But somehow you think you are different, when you are the same beast with different sheep skin. Canada did no different to the native Americans. Call it karma. What are you actually going to do about it? The acts of the western nations only perpetuate the religious dogma. You are missing too many pieces of the puzzle, and you are unwilling to really understand the Muslim plight. Religions are reactionary movements. They are only successful in their violence when unsighted. Either genuinely and illegitimately.