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Yeah sure, employed CEO's get the money. What makes you think any company would have him as CEO. Being a politician and string pulling is much different then running a corporation. Harper already qualifies for his Government Pension and he has the top job. If you add the other benefits to being PM, I am sure it adds up to more than half a million from the taxpayers. Not only that, maybe he is getting a kickback from the political donations to the conservative party, along the lines of a MLM scheme. After all is said and done he maybe pulling in 1 million a year because he's the PM.

You realize atheist is just another word for heathen. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/heathen It's not safe to wear your belief on your shirt sleave, whatever it is. It's best to keep it to yourself. Canada you can get away with broadcasting/advertising it. Go to afganistan and say your christian and see how long you last. Being Atheist or a believer you are still something!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_political_offices_by_salary Prime Minister of Canada: $315,462 (and $2,122 Car Allowance) Member of the House of Commons: $157,731 This should be answer enough, money, money, money. Gets to travel/vacation the world at taxpayer expense and he gets to feather the conservative party with plum government positions. Why would Harper willingly step to $157,731 when he's making $315,462. He would have to be insane. As I said with power... From his cold dead hands.

Freedom of thought, has to allow for freedom of belief. If it happens inside your head and where noone sees you good for us all. Be muslim, Be a jew, Be a christian, Be a bhudist, Be a kulkulkian, whatever just don't advertise it to the world.

Then harper is strategist and he is playing his opponents accordingly. One thing people loved about Chretian was he got surpluses, did nothing to extreme, and Canada became boring. If the Liberals truly want to unseat Harper, they will have to bring back Chretien. Chretien loves to win and even if winning is all he does would be enough for chretien. As for prorogueing, I don't see how the GG is ceremonial and symbolic one minute then is used to prop up the PM the next. It's not right. However, parliament passed a voting law setting the timetable for elections. If harper has lost the confidence, the members of parliament should be given a free vote to select the PM from the current MPs until the time for the next election. Holding Perpetual elections to drive out a majority is a waste of time if everyone knows the result will still be a minority. In anycase, Canadians elect MPs not parties. The MPs, the senate, and the Supreme Court should have the say to Harpers fate. This would ensure he is not being unfairly ganged up on for no good reason. Because the Senate and the Court is an infestation of the liberals and Conservatives alike it would be hard for Canadians to value to much of what they say or do. That would change if Canadians Had a say as the judges and Senators that would ultimately be the judge and jury of the PM.

As with anyone with power...Take it from my cold dead hands. The only way for him to go will be defeat or disgrace.

You are right Religious fanatics are root of all conflicts. Why can't everyone just live out their lives and die without being interrogated or questioned by religious fanatics. Trust me I have come across alot of them and most of them are not content until you are one of them. What these people don't understand its between them and the unseen entity they believe exists. No one can help them there. Canada needs new Revenue and because church's are really no different than biker clubs like the hells angels for people to hang out and pretend they are good people they need to be taxed taxed taxed. Churches and mosques should get tax breaks breaks breaks only when they show Revenue Canada they helped the homeless, the food banks, and other causes with their collection basket. It has been shown alqueda used mosques to amass money to support so called terrorist groups around the world. If mosques and churches are going to be used as vehicles to raise money, Canada should get its due off the top. This won't happen because the Conservatives, Liberals, are machievellian parties. Use God to police the crowds, it doen't cost as much. As for Countries that have stepped up and labled themselves as muslim countries should be the recipient of a welcome message for declaring their countries that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast_bomb GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB) And Russia can take out Georgia with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP)

See that's where you are wrong. Those who don't like the story line of whatever God, they reject it, because the reality is you would be deemed a sinner of that God. I have already stated countless times, atheist is a valid postion to have. Where I have issue with anyone is when they develop a mob/class group of people and set about marginalizing and looking down on other people. The Judeo God does not support the prostituting of its people and the Romans built a 1000 year empire based on extracting wealth from the conquered and enslaving the people to serve the Roman citizens. That't the history and that was the Religion. Buy into it or not, is your choice. If you choose to support political endeavors that only serve to enslave future Canadians or shackle Canada with debt to be paid off by future generations, the only course is for those Canadians to dust off the King James and pick up the sword and cleanse the country of the corrupt and take their wealth and put it back into the treasury of GOD/Canada. As Canada is the new God.

I gave you a jewish forum, go cry on that and wait for your god that adondoned you. As the story goes, there was 12 tribes and the tribes were widdled away to one. Since that you had two temples which were destroyed and you have been usurped by Jesus and Christianity. Good luck eradicating those cockroaches. I say they are cockroaches because the main line to their faith is jesus died on the cross for their sins so they are now able to be the lying cheating scum and they want to be and in the end Jesus will shepherd them into heaven. Hey, what a religion, get all the rewards, without the work. Yeah, sure, when pigs fly. Not only did your god adondoned the isrealites you are crying on a forum using latin letters of the Romans who are responsible for burning down your last temple and elevating Christianity to usurping judism. Also in reading your post, you talk about the Torah, why only the books of moses, are jews afraid of the rest of the OT? The septugint introduced by Actual Jews to the greeks in 300 BC introduced all the OT stories. As for the masoretic alepo Codex based scripture assembled in 700 AD - 1000 AD. 1000 years after the fact. The alepo codex is what Isreal is based on and the sourc to the king James OT. The alepo codex also has all the OT stories. Why only the torah? This is the facts of history and the dementia of society. I praise the coherency of the King James OT and the work put forward to establish it. The book is stranger than fiction but will ge a good guide book for when the world has a first contact with a superior alien race. The aliens will infiltrate the world, learn the King James, and follow this plan of action to systematically eradicate the earth and put all the worlds wealth into the treasury of the Lord. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua+6&version=KJV Yes The Joys, of the OT. The fact is, in the realm of this god, don't get in his way, or else. Because he is not around, it is a good book for inspirational guidance to pump up the spirits and rain down contempt on the evil doers, whatever Reliogion they claim to be apart of. And when you do this, and you are not jewish, be sure to do it in the name of JUPITER/JOVE. http://www.crystalinks.com/jupiterrome.html

Yes Christians are guilty of not focusing on the life in front of them and they should be sent to meet jesus ASAP for their disinterest in life.

You have proven yourself wrong when you insist your view is the only view. You are free to see things anyway you want, right or wrong. Intelligent people recognize their fallacies, you being a simpleton are challenged in that area. As is your statement, Atheist are more honest, trustworthy and upstanding people. Right... There is nothing wrong with people on one country getting what other countries are getting. Canada wants to claim to be G8 Country, they should provide like other G8 countries. When it comes to what Canadians get in comparison to other G8 countries, Canadians are at the bottom.

http://www.gottorah.com/forum/category-view.asp You should lament on a jewish forum. With the likes of falsemetis and toadsister you are not likely to get any warm and friendly discourse on your post.

Abortion, don't be lazy, read the original quoted posts and you would have the answer. Yes I should proof my posts but who's grading me? Science has shown the brain looks for patterns, and the first and last letters are what triggers the word association.

Once again you prove yourself to be an emotional simpleton. I didn't say atheists lie about God, I say they have no problem lying and cheating in general. Who is society? We are and the history that brought us here. Being accountable to society is to be held to accountable to the rule of law. Be atheist, makes no difference to me. I would rather have an atheist society than this multi religious garbage the Conservatives and liberals have inflicted on Canada over the last 30 to 40 years. Actually, I see Religion as a sign of Corrupt societies. Religion only appears when a country and a society has become corrupt and the only sane outlet for solace is to look to a God for hope to Memorable quotes for Taxi Driver (1976) Personnel Officer: How's your driving record? Clean? Travis Bickle: It's clean, real clean. Like my conscience. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Travis Bickle: All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. I go all over. I take people to the Bronx, Brooklyn, I take 'em to Harlem. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take spooks. Don't make no difference to me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Travis Bickle: Loneliness has followed me my whole life. Everywhere. In bars, in cars, sidewalks, stores, everywhere. There's no escape. I'm God's lonely man... June 8th. My life has taken another turn again. The days can go on with regularity over and over, one day indistinguishable from the next. A long continuous chain. Then suddenly, there is a change. Religion is a sign of failed countries. Happy people have no need for religion. Hard to be happy when you have corrupt politicians, bureacrats, and lyers wrecking the country with their BS. Over in the UK, the get 28 days stats and vacation days a year. France, Germany, sweden, they get 6 weeks vacation and they have public health care and other programs. The problem with North America, its full of scum, and A god is necessary to throw the trash into the fire to be obliterated out of the book of existence. The bible will endure on in North America.

Because they lack belief in higher intelligence or a God they platform themselves as Gods. Because of their God status they feel entitled to exploit, cheat, lie, without fear of retribution.

Personal experience. I wouldn't lend them any money and I wouldn't trust them around any wife or girlfriend.

ROFL, you an intellectual?? ha ha ha. A simpleton, yes, an intellectual no. Because you have no experience with a God or an experience considered godly you dismiss it as fantasy. The world is rooted in theology. Not only has theology and philospy been around for thousands of years, math has been in use by the Greeks since 600 BC. Being intellectual is to be empathetic. You have to understand where the other is coming from. I attack anything and everything. I also look at what is. If you were an intellectual you would have to entertain the possibility there is more advanced life out their. You are blinded by your emotions that is what is revealing in your posts. As for your stats on divorce, pregnancy, abortation, yeah sure.

Atheists are often of low character and untrustworthy. Although a valid postion it is not an excuse to be a bad person.

Let God speak for God. If God is not speaking, then man is left to do what he thinks is right. This exertion of right is extended by the hand of society. The world is getting over the christian presumption where the christian doctrine took advantage of this God not speaking to man and twisted around the OT stories. The OT God not speaking to man overtly has morphed via christianity into people developing voices in their heads and believing jesus is in their heads guiding them. In the Current dynamic of the world, atheism is a valid position.

What claim am I making other then laying down the human problem of man trascending death. As for evolution do you think humans look like the cavemen? Not at all because the generations are adapting and adjusting to the ever changing human environment. That is evolution.

Why not beleive it? Add another god to the pile. Attention is garnered to the famed and fortune. Everyone knows who Bill Gates and warren buffet are because of what they have done. So goes it, of the bible. Everyone knows the persona of that God, and it is well documented. As for the other Gods and their stories they are resurfacing and people are learning more and more about that. If anything monotheism is dead and the world will move towards paganism and people will beleive whatever. Whether it helps them trascend life and death will always be a wonder. As the world waits for first contact with Aliens so is modern man waiting for first contact of a "God". In the mean time while humans are waiting and other humans and societies decide to pursue the road of tyranny, corruption, vanity, abuse, pride, whatever, the Bible will be dusted off used a tool rain down the contempt on those who exalt themselves.

Not about advancing? 25000 years ago humans lived out of caves, now we are propelled into space via technological discovery. How do you know how old the earth really is? Were around back then? Did you keep a record or is it some fancy estimation done by science. As for the rest of what I said, Samuel Jackson said in pulp fiction, You have to watch out for those who pick up the sword of ezekiel. As I have stated over and over, this book will outlast whoever is alive and it will always be a book to send the evildoers a clear message to watch themselves. Whether this book is fiction or not, is irrelevant because it is about right and wrong, Good and evil. If nothing else it liberates and stretches the hearts and minds of man trancending it above the vain and corrupt governance of the day.

The Bible is the greatest coherent epic that has survived the increments of time. It was constructed before modern media and the internet. It is a tower of words and a story of momentum. Whether it is true, fiction or a mattter of allegory. al·le·go·ry (āl'ĭ-gôr'ē, -gōr'ē) n. pl. al·le·go·ries The representation of abstract ideas or principles by characters, figures, or events in narrative, dramatic, or pictorial form. Everything is rooted is some truth and even if you experienced something that could not be shared unless experience by them you would not be believed. That is the world. You have failed to establish how you have solved the problem of Man beating Death? We all die. Some faster than others. What happens then? Religion has always been about that problem. That hasn't stopped people from using religion as a way to make a living if for nothing else. That's the problem with Christian churchs, vehicles to cheat money out of people. The machievellian view that people will have a conscious because of the various churches and religions is naive. The worlds countries has to rise above and stand on the virtues of right and wrong. Why won't this happen? Because then you will have uncovered the thrust of the Old Testament, Right, Wrong, and logic/Reasoning. That is that God. He is a god interested in Right and Wrong and you as a man can go toe toe with this God and reason with him. Of course this God is no where to be found and all we are left with is these stories. Because this God is not around the people have to look at this book for Guidance. Eye for Eye is the way of the OT. The NT is to fight the good fight and let the God of Jesus deal with the Evil doers. The question is, is the God of Jesus and the God of Moses the same? Perhaps because The God of the OT has put forward many prophets and seers to twist the minds of man. The thrust of it, is a test. The god of the OT is about tests. The first test was Abraham ordered to sacrifice his son. What's the point of this? Will this God spare you from death or not. The rest of the story is the conditions of being spared. In anycase maybe life will recongize you as a force of life and keep you in it!! If the earth is 5 million years old, that has given a life force alot of time to evolve and try to direct the conscious of life. Life is driven to evolve, sustain and advance.

You don't want the popular vote. If popular vote ruled, regions such as Toronto and Vancouver which are immigrant cess pools would sway this vote to their agenda. The electoral college while not perfect is more democratic. Also if proportional votes gave additional indirect seats to a particular party would also be a blight to the country because the mob would rule. Canada is indeed a partisan corrupt country bent on feathering the nests of the party at the expense of Canadians. They have sold out Canada and will continue to sell out Canada for their own ends until people rally to get rid of the corrupt Conservatives and the Liberal Cancer that has plagued Canada.

http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/egypt/ra.htm Round and Round we go, pick your god. The Egyptian God Ra, The Roman God Jupiter, Budda??, Hari Krishna, Siva, The Judeo Christian God, which one is God? The Bible is 2000 years old, how many stories have been documented and survived two thousand years. Yes, life is defined, and you are in it. you are nothing more than a fading torch of life. That torch will go on out when you are on deaths bed. The book may be fiction but unless you posses the power to beat death you have nothing going for you.