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You have to ask yourself what is religion? One thing is certain it is unique to man as there is no evidence of religion being practice in the animal and insect domains. Questions and answers is what makes us human, it is natural to question life itself. Religion attempts to answer those questions. What God creature? I don't know any? All I know is Christian and muslim fanatics or the Society A-holes who deserve a bat to the face. There is no God (as defined in the OT and NT) working in this world so you are right to be left alone to your life and not be harassed by Christians and muslims. Kind of hard when Canada is a haven for these world outcasts. Also hard when you have an apathetic parliament and bureacracy and a gomarrah society that deserves a boot to the face. A balance of Rules and Freedoms is the crux of a just society. I am not on here lying to you either. People are fundamentally lyers and are really not reliable or trustworthy. I am not arrogant enough to call myself atheist, I have to beleive there is more advance intelligence out there. Perhaps that intelligence is not what is described or portrayed in the OT or NT but that intelligence is smart enough to know what is true and what is not.

Get with with the program, that is the backbone of the US economy. If it were not for government spending the US would not be where it is. Pay attention to US spending versus tax collection and you will see they just continue motoring onward. Unfortunatley, Canada just does not understand US economics. This is obvious; compare US infrastructure to Canada infrastructure, it's quite telling.

Do you have proof you exist? No, Really? Really, maybe you are just a droid. who think he exists by asking for stupid information. Asking for someone to prove if the majority of people feel cold over feeling warm is an idiotic and a moronic request and it goes to show your shoe size intelligence. You can't quantify it, there is no way to know if atheists are more honest or dishonest. However, as I have stated the religious have books to say dishonesty is not acceptable. What books do atheists abide by and who is holding them to the fire?

Those who are true to whatever religion knows character is front and center. Lying, cheating, etc, etc, is not acceptable. You sound like you like to think of yourself as a devils advocate. You argue for the sake of argueing. You have no position, so you prove my point. I can't trust anything you have to say. Fine you believe the bible is a work of fiction and you will dismiss it as irrelevant. Perhaps, but one has to recognize the amount of work it took to construct it and the coherence of it. Anyone who looks at the book escpecially christians and their revisionist agenda would like nothing more than to edit out and piece together a book more to their agenda of keeping you simple, not asking questions, and getting you support them with your money

Those who are true to whatever religion knows character is front and center. Lying, cheating, etc, etc, is not acceptable. You sound like you like to think of yourself as a devils advocate. You argue for the sake of argueing. You have no position, so you prove my point. I can't trust anything you have to say. Fine you believe the bible is a work of fiction and you will dismiss it as irrelevant. Perhaps, but one has to recognize the amount of work it took to construct it and the coherence of it. Anyone who looks at the book escpecially christians and their revisionist agenda would like nothing more than to edit out and piece together a book more to their agenda of keeping you simple, not asking questions, and getting you to support them with your money. You are arguing non religious/atheists people are more trustworthy and reliable than those who claim they believe. There is no way to prove whether you are being honest or dishonest with the people around you without putting a lie detector on you 24/7. Religion tackles that head on, so if the person is a lyer they are doing damage to their faith in whatever religion they are in and the efforts and beliefs are for nothing. From that angle, You could say atheists are more honest in that regard as they are not pretending to be hypocritical christians, jewish, muslims or whatever religion.

I would say that is probably likely.

God of the OT illustrates how he overtly communicates with man. In the case of Moses, via a burning bush. To build his temple through a cloud and a pillar of fire. For christians, a voice in your head. The christians belief is little far fetched and is in line with exploiting this God's out to lunch status.

Twenty years ago I went to New York city and they had the debt counter up. It was accumulating rapidly then, and not much has changed. The US wasn't concerned about it then and they are probably not to concerned about it Now. The US invented the modern economic game and they are playing anyone and everyone accordingly. This game started way back in the day when they disassociated their currency from Gold. The world can ridicule the US all it wants. I doubt the Russian Government is passing countefeit US currency. If they were, they would likely use conterfeit currency to buy US made goods they want or use that currency to buy their Ruble to push up the value. Currency is game and the US is educating the world accordingly. As for Jobs, the US has to start dangling money to subcontractors listed on the Stock Exchanges to build Government Projects. This will get people back to work and begin boosting stock prices. The world is at this point because of Corporate corruption and Government apathy. Then again maybe this is the new norm, and the world will drift sideways for awhile. In any case Canada needs to find a strike point on the currency and begin to covertly stockpile foreign currencies to be used to prop up Canada's currency when Required. Canada has to start being more industrial and a designed based country rather than a flow through for companies wanting access to the US market. Canada needs to have Canadian products commissioned by the Government and used by Canada via the sub contract model of companies listed on the stock exchanges. If the products are world class get them on the shelves of world, if not keep them sustained by Canada until they are. The economic model is not clearly understood and Canada is lagging because of it.

Canada still has its own currency and as long as the US is pumping up the currency with the US thirst for Canada's oil Canada is clearly in a position to play by the same economic play book.

Which God do you have faith in? I am not saying a God exists or doesn't exist. If there is a God, he's has an out to lunch sign on his door. For that reason, the restless use God as a tool to exploit, brainwash, and do whatever in the name of a God. Is the world a creation or a cosmic result of environmental conditions. Is there a master intelligence, or perhaps, consciousness is ever expanding and the Gods you put before you are really milestones to bigger consciousness and bigger Gods. The Western World and their montheism of taping together Judaism, Christianity, and Islam to corral the minds of man is awash. This God is explicit and he is elaborately described in length. These religions are backed into a Corner really. So what it comes down to is whether one believe in a Super Consciousness/Intelligence and this intelligence will relay you, or "promise too", deliver you to a higher conscious. Perhaps you are nothing more than a life and "Life" will look after life according to divine laws. Life has to be somewhat intelligent as man can't get enough of trying to replicate and figure out the genius. When Life is prepared to open the door to evolve life further, Life will, I 100% believe that. In Life Humans exists, Animals exists, insects exist, and it would not be inconceivable for GODS (Advance intelligence) to EXIST. As humans are ego-centric, so goes it for a God. Why would any God step out for a lowly human? We all pursue life in a different way. Ultimately all realize we revolve around the earth and the earth revolves around the sun and the sun revolves around the milky way. We are all groping in the dark. Science has to be credited for expanding the scope and minds of man. Religion has to be credited to keeping humans human and keeping societies from becoming overzealous in the way of police states and dictatorships. When Tyranny surfaces, religion takes form and expands. The cycles of societies and religion.

Statements like that shows how clueless you are to US style economics.

Good, every dollar bought, Canada's mint get's to print. If the currency is aquired and spent on Canadian Goods and Services then you truly have a contributor to Canada's GDP. This is only Good if Russia is a growing trade partner of Canada. Otherwise, it's just an opportunity to push out some printed money onto the World. Either way, Canada needs to figure out what Russia is trying to do.

Canada is a country you are on your own and you navigate through the sea of indifference. Because of Government apathy many out of frustration may look to a God as a crutch. Machievellian Society at work. The fact is, God is not listening, and if there is a God listening it is your collective ancestory/DNA sequencing shining forth. Yes you Can live in the woods in a Cabin, Canada is a big Country. With freecell technology, Satellite Internet, etc, etc, you can stay connected to society or not. Society is a drug, it's good, it's bad, it's corrupt, but what can you do. If Canada can be summed up in a word: Apathy. Some don't mind that. Usually in an apathetic environment, you have to be prepared to take a few knocks.

Perhaps he thinks something Nostradamus has predicted is going to happen. He should just come out with what that is.

I thought I was the only one slandering Canada. Canada is really about the corrupt who know how to use Canada as a vehicle to exploit the naive. Corruption is relative as is citizen well being. Depending on who you compare Canadians to, they say we have it good. When you compare us to PEER countries, not so fast. Canada is in a hole socially and economically. The question is, Can Canada find its legs and navigate itself to being a Country of winners? I haven't read this thread but if corruption is found at the tory headquarters by the RCMP, that has to be grounds for that Party to step aside and have the official opposition form the government. Corruption cannot be tolerated by the Party that is the PM and the Cabinet. That party has lost its right to exist in parliament. The GG can forget about Prorogueing and being Harpers Puppet, she should step up and not stand for this Corruption and fire the PM and the Cabinet.

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Of course, even if you never worked a day in your life, you get old age security. That's good for six thousand at this point. If you lived in the woods in a tent, that's 600 dollars a month to subscribe to Satellite/Wifi Internet and 500 hundred for supplies. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....Problem.

With inflation being the way it is, the money I have and the money I will have won't be worth much. When I retire I will probably have to live in the woods. You can be sure with Solar Power technology and wifi, I will still be connected via the internet.

The KJV was commissioned by King James to be transcibed by 50 English Scholars working with the Masoretic Jews and the allepo codex. That's a powerful cocktail that institutes confidence to its accuracy, intention, and validity. This all happened before modern media and the internet. Anything the modern world does is not to be trusted. In anycase, this God is portrayed and described in length. There is no evidence of this God being interested in the modern world as we know it. Because of that bored people are using religion as a tool to their ends.

Why would anyone trust the revisionists NIV. Stick to the KJV and not only that when the septuagint (from real jews) and the KJV from the masoretic jews it was origined from source of these stories. As for the NIV its the modern world revisionist agenda. It goes to affirm my point that religion is a tool used by men to further an agenda.

Canada gives auto citizenship to the world if they pass a point score which is not that difficult. http://www.workpermit.com/canada/canadian-immigration.htm. That is without having a firm job offer, if someone gets an employer to offer them a job. The employer fills out this applications from HRDC, http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/fwp_application.shtml. Canadians looking for work are competing with corrupt employers who deprive Canadians valued work experience and a Government Bureacracy which rolls the red carpet out to those who aspire to canada. Once they are here, it doesn't take long for these people to become eligible for landed immigrant status and they are entitled to vote in turn skewing the votes of domestic Canadians. Also these people who come to Canada are able to qualify for mortgages on homes and essentially get all the benefits of Canada as if they were born to Canada. The US does not do that. Face the facts, these illegals are stimulating the US economy and are NOT entitled to government programs. Logic dictates this has to lower your taxes. Politicians wasting money is another issue but the plus is the illegal immigrants don't have a voice to select your politicians. Canada on the other hand gives a voice to these transplant "Canadians" in turn who complicate the politics of Canada. What kind of Jobs are you trying to get? The lower the skillset of a job the more applicants. The US has a tremendous amount of Government Programs for people to pursue. Canadian could only dream for a fraction of what Programs exists for Americans. All things said, How has Canada prospered selling Canadians out as the Politicians Have? Short term Gain, long term nothing, that's Canada. The US has acheived alot and has developed alot. As an American you have an opportunity to be apart of the US drive of acheivement. As a Canadian we are lucky to have food and shelter never mind being apart of something more than the mundane.

As they say about time, it's nothing more than the space to get things done. Science is about explaining or developing an understanding of the world. It is in the bible to pursue knowledge. In that knowledge you would realize men are speaking as if they represent this God when they really are about using this God to promote themselves or their agenda. Science is about proof. The Bible/story outlines what this God has done, but science has yet to affirm any validity to those stories and assertions. If anything the bible conveys an understanding and could be allegoric. However, once you know what's in the book, you begin to question where people are coming from. The modern Jews only focus is on the torah, the five books of moses, yet the Jews on Two Occasions introduced all of the old testament to the world. The first Introduction was the Septagint (old testament) transcribed to the Greeks in 300 BC by the tribes of Isreal. The Second occurance happened in the sixteenth century when the masoretic jews using the alepo codex transcribing the old testament with English Scholars to create the King James old testament. Why do modern jews ignore the rest of the book? The State of Isreal is based on the alepo codex. The Book is quite large and complicated to absorb, however after all is said and done its about Brainwashing you. Perhaps this God does exist? If he does he is no longer interested in the jews or man. For that reason, man is left to pursue what he believes is right. The world and history as we know it, covers the last 3000 years. If you look at the bible, that is about the time this God left to never be seen or heard from again. 700 Years later the jewish tribes were bored and introduced the Old testament to the greeks. 300 years later, Jesus and his deciples used this God's absence as opportunity to twist the minds of man. 2000 years later the world is breaking free of the christianity twist and waking up to the fact men are using the bible as a tool for their own ends. Christian missionaries have done everything they could to repress and burn alternate knowledge in the world. Today science is there to cast water on the exuberant. It is fair to wait for the proof of science or a real world event to adjust ones belief or acceptance. However, the OT does provide some inspiring tales to fight back against tyranny of man. That could be the reason why this book is a main stay in this world.

Especially ones that hide behind the Governor General via prorogueing, face the music, face the parliament. If this is how the Conservatives or any party wants to operate they should NOT be treated with the same perks as a majority seat PM. The opposition parties have more seats than the conservatives, they should really think about what power is. Power stems from the barrel of a gun. The true power lies in the opposition because they have more seats combined. Because Harper's minority is behaving like a majority with the opposition the opposition should table a bill as soon as parliament resumes and begin the steps of clawing back the PMs compensation, housing, and other perks. If the opposition did this you would see an about face attitude change of the Conservatives and their will to make parliament work with the oppositions points of view included. Canada is suffering because of the obfuscating actions of all the MPs.

Where there's crap there's flies.

No discrimination, minority PMs don't deserve the perks a Majority PM gets. I could care less what party they are from.