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That's too bad, it's going to happen because of our indifference. The Americans showed us the way to deal with this scum but we pay no mind. They will attack us mark my words. Many will die, then the liberals will be crying for help but because of our depleted military no help will be coming from our own government. It will be sad.

There is no difference. That is one of the great lies perpetrated by our media. Islam is Islam. Yes but we did put them into camps while the war was on.

Why is everyone jumping down my throat?

You really believe that black gangs don't sell crack and shoot people in Toronto? Murder stats : Year of the Gun! Rosemary Gartner, a criminologist at the University of Toronto, says in the past Toronto has typically seen about 60 murders a year. For the first time in more than 20 years, however, those numbers have spiked in two of the past three years, to 78 in 2005 and 82 so far in 2007. "I am concerned that if we get another year over 80, that's suggesting it's something we need to pay attention to," said Gartner. Over the past decade (ending in 2005), she said, 45 per cent of homicide victims were black, a 300-per-cent increase over the decade before. From UofT prof: Another statistical fact is that because most of the victims of these black murderers have themselves been black, black-on-black violence in Toronto is also overrepresented compared with white-on-white violence. http://www.news.utoronto.ca/bin6/thoughts/060612-2393.asp

I honestly cannot wait until Islamists start blowing things up here in Canada. I cannot wait to hear what excuses people will make for them. I'm sure it will be hands across Canada for Islam...lol. That's how weak we are. Has the UK, Spain or USA blocked Islamists from entering their country? Nope they let more in...lol. If that isn't self destructive I don't know what is. The leaders of these Islamic countries call for the destruction of the western world and its democracy. Then we let them in so they can take us over. That doesn't bother anyone at all?

To me it is a sad world to live in without believing in anything at all outside of ourselves, that's just me. Not right nor wrong. The liberal government will do exactly what I do not desire of it anyway, no matter what is said leftists will win over here in Ontario, the fght is over they already have. I'll probably end up going back out west or up north anyhow. Where people have similar mindset to my own. Good day.

His trial is coming up in May/2008! Sat Apr 8 2006 By Bruce Owen Forty-five women and girls -- one only 12 years old -- from Winnipeg and Brandon allegedly had unprotected sex with a Winnipeg man infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, police said yesterday. The growing investigation into Clato Lual Mabior is now the largest of its kind in Canada, Winnipeg police sex crimes Staff Sgt. Brant Bishop said. "This is potentially a pretty serious health issue," Bishop said. "I would suggest the numbers could be much greater." That's because many of the women involved -- only eight have been interviewed by detectives so far -- may have had unprotected sexual relations with other men, potentially and unknowingly spreading the disease. Mabior, 28, is now charged with multiple counts of aggravated sexual assault. Bishop said the maximum penalty if a person is convicted of aggravated sexual assault is life in prison. Mabior, a Sudanese refugee, is in custody at Headingley Correctional Institute. Mabior was the subject last month of an unprecedented warning by police and the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority, who said he was allegedly having sexual relations with women without telling them he was infected with HIV. Anyone having had any type of unprotected intimate relations with Mabior should seek a doctor right away and call police at 986-3385. Bishop said two other men are now implicated in the investigation. Gabriel Deng, 27, has been charged with sexual assault, sexual interference and sexual touching. The third man's name was not released as his case remains under investigation. Both are believed to be friends of Mabior. Bishop said Mabior has now been charged with having unprotected sex with five other girls and women in Brandon and Winnipeg. Mabior lived in Brandon from November 2003 to March 2004, when he worked for Maple Leaf Foods. The ages of the partners are 21, 22, 18 and 12 and 15. Many of the young women were runaways or supposed to be under care of Child and Family Services, Bishop said. "They were being preyed upon," he said. "They were plied by alcohol, drugs and the offer of a place to stay." Bishop also said the investigation and others like it could run a lot smoother if investigators could get personal medical information about victims and the accused a lot more quickly. He blamed the province's Personal Health Information Act (PHIA). "Quite frankly, this a public safety issue," Bishop said. "What's the greater good? The protection of one person or the protection of the public?" The PHIA, proclaimed in December 1997, was the first legislation of its kind in Canada designed to protect a patient's privacy rights concerning the release and use of personal health information. Bishop said many health-care workers are frightened to discuss a person's medical status, even with police, because they face a fine of up to $50,000 if personal information is wrongly disclosed. "It's incredibly frustrating," he said. "I think it's time we look at that legislation. The number of people who can be infected in such a short period of time is quite profound." [email protected]

No wonder the black community has problems that will never be solved. people are afraid to admit it. Hrm... I wonder why the government stopped gathering crime stats based on race? Hrmmm... Anyways I'm done with this topic, I've made my point. I look forward to many more arguments in the future M.Dancer and Guyser, it was fun.

Not every people are good for Canada Drea, simple as that. Islamists come from a place where Religion and Government are intertwined as one entity. No one is going to change that by talking, impossible. It will take generations to breed that out of them. I understand what you are saying though and I once thought similar to you but then I woke up and discovered the reality of our world and put this fantasy that everyone will get along to bed. It just cannot happen Drea. Islamists hold their religion more fiercely than Christians do, you're concentrating on the wrong side. Hopefully one day you'll see that. I whole heartedly agree with your last statement. It isn't the only reason but yes it does garner women as second class citizens much of the time and that is unfair as women have as much to contribute as men...

Actually yes it does. It is obvious you live outside the city. How can you possibly comment on things that go on within our city if the only information you get is through the media and not first hand knowledge. If I lived in a small town where it was 90% white I would think everything was great too. Try living in Toronto where you and I are in the minority, you may see things differently.

Taking the moral high road eh Dancer? I just like how liberals are so afraid to state the obvious in the name political correctness. So scared....it's hilariously entertaining to be honest.

Guyser where do you live? What city or area?

Guyser and Dancer: you guys are playing games with words and are scared to answer the very direct question I posed. Guyser: I'll make it real simple for you. Answer this... Do black gangs sell he majority of the crack on Toronto streets?

would you want a third world trained doctor giving you a life saving operation? I think not.

Free speech is only for those who agree with the leftist ideals of the media and the minority protesters.

Are you denying that the predominately black gangs are selling crack and killing people in Toronto? In addition Guyser: Where do you live? I live in the GTA. If you don't you will have to excuse yourself from this topic as you don't know what you're talking about.

I've already said it. Black gangs in the east are selling crack and killing people in record numbers. Native and Indian gangs in West are doing the same. To believe otherwise is naive. As I said go to the areas I've mentioned and tell me what you see. Scratch that go to any social housing development...

This is the leftist wasteland we are creating. This is just the beginning, wait until we have polygamist marriages and Sahria Law's. Enjoy it, you've earned it.

You mean to say that you don't think that the majority of teachers are left leaning? That is absurd and foolish.

Geez, I never said that there were no conservative teachers of course there are but they are outnumbered by a long shot. Look no further than the On Teachers Pension Plan for proof. Striking is a left wing thing to do btw. Religion is what help form the laws in this land in the first place and laid the foundation for Canada to exist in the first place. So now we are to suddenly remove all of that?

To start with...no I'm not out of a job. I'm converting to Catholicism so my church is never closed. I'm not gay, but gay marriage is the reason I'm converting. I don't have kids I just through that in because it made my argument flow better. Now examples of how Canada is turning into a Leftist wasteland...well it is mostly Ontario and BC, which is what led me to move to Alberta for four years. -the opinion of the majority means nothing in this country and we are forced to be ruled by the minority or people that aren't even citizens of Canada -Labour unions have way too much power -government spends way to much money on social programs that do little to improve the lives of the majority if at all which the majority is forced to pay for -tradition is being pushed aside for some vanilla flavoured Utopia where the traditions of other cultures supercedes the traditions of the majority -Canada doesn't let in the right kind of immigrants that we need instead lets in anyone from a third world country who have little in the of skills for the most part -Canada has a proud military tradition but is blasted by the left every time the government wants to upgrade our antiquated armed forces -free speech is only for those that agree with the leftist ideals spouted by the minority otherwise one is labeled as bigoted in some fashion or another I could go on and on but I'll leave at that for now.

Yes all cultures are different, indeed. That doesn't make all cultures a good fit for Canada. The sooner the the looney left realizes that the better.

The people you see protesting for the "poor", these so called anti-poverty groups. These are the ones who are against stiffer sentences for criminals. Take it up with them. Hug-a-thug is the motto.

No need to troll Drea. Btw being an atheist requires more faith then being a believer does. Just because you don't have faith doesn't mean that it is wrong for anyone else to believe. In the grand scheme of things neither of our opinions really matter. This is just entertainment for me. I know Canada is now pretty much a leftist wasteland. Leftover's from some hippie era bong. Hopefully Canada will wake up before it's too late. Our kids are brainwashed daily by socialists teachers who are close to becoming full blown communists. I don't want my children taught in this manner. Maybe Lenin and Trotsky are role models for many in Canada but they aren't good enough for me and mine, sorry. I dislike the constant attack on anything that is Christian or points to traditional Christian values. Doesn't matter what it is. If it's Traditional or Christian it must be evil.

Precisely my point. What good is it to have people in this country who have heart strings for some other far away land? Is that helping to strengthen the social fabric of this once great nation? Ponder this....before the 1960's we barred many ethnic groups from coming here to Canada. Many Western Europeans came at that time. We opened the flood gates shortly after that and suddenly no more WU's want to come to Canada anymore? I find that hard to believe. Does Canada have a racist agenda to only let in non WU's to this country? Now I'm not saying that all Asians, Africans and other ethnics don't contribute something worthwhile to our society as many many do make a strong effort to give back to a nation that rescued them from whatever hell hole they were escaping. And we need those people to go to the various communities and tell there former countrymen that it isn't the end of the world to try out this new home and really embrace it. Tradition is well and good and should be remembered, cherished anhd even practiced on holidays but I don't think some of these people need walk around in the halloween costumes that we see daily. I'm just saying that WU's seem to more readily and easily integrate in our culture.