ScottSA

What you really mean is that you can't, [blah blah passive-aggressive insult blah]... No, no, I really mean it was too ludicrous to even bother refuting. Even before you get to the content fallacies, structurally/conceptually it's a mismatch to the thing you're trying to analogize with. Yup. Right. Lotsa bluster, no backup. Carry on...

No, it's called economic befuddlement, much like the political and apostrophiac befuddlement you're subject to.

That is true of the Reform Party in 1988. By 1993 they had fairly well cleaned house and took 40 seats. The greens will never take 40 seats even if the country is submerged under 6' of former pole ice, simply because they are a single issue party. As such, they will never have a chance to clean house, because they have no chance of forming the government, and there will always be a struggle to run a respectable slate. After 1993 the Reform Party was taken seriously enough to attract quality candidates and a number of the new MPs from 93 had become seasoned veterans and quite good at the job. The GP won't have the luxury of being picky like the Reform Party, so there will always be loose cannons sliding around below decks threatening to hole the hull. Dion is an absolute idiot for lashing his party to the GP fireship. And lest I pass by a chance to drive a taunt home, I suspect you weren't quite so forgiving of the Reform Party at the time. I rather suspect you labelled the entire party "extremist". Am I right?

That statement is too ludicrous to even bother refuting. Well why don't you try anyway? Because ... That statement is too ludicrous to even bother refuting. What you really mean is that you can't, so you're going to mock it instead of addressing it. Hey, that's fine by me dude, but it's fairly transparent. God save us from little minds...

I heard that Elvis was behind it. Hey Topaz? Guess what? Every transaction on wall street is recorded. When somebody makes "big bucks", all one needs to do to find out who is look. You're making stuff up or hallucinating. Stop it.

Huh?

No.

One doesn't have to "say" anything. I recall that the Reform Party and the CA were hounded from pillar to post over every slip of the tongue from 1993 to 2003. It's a shame for the Liberal Party that Dion didn't recall it before he in effect linked his party to the Greens with his "extraordinary measures" speech. Now listen carefully while I aid your understanding of Canadian politics: Dion has one issue he's stronger than the Cons on, and it's the environment. It will not turn out to be the issue he thinks it is, although he is attempting to whip up a bit of Goreish hysteria over it with this "collaboration" between the Libs and Greens. Hence his hysterical announcement that "We need exceptional solutions and that's the reason we're acting this way". This is a cynical manipulation of the voting public of course, but this is politics, so it's nothing that can be held against him. But there's a fatal flaw to the programme that any seasoned leader would have seen a mile off and avoided: he has effectively linked his party to the Greens, and everything the Greens do from now on will reflect on the Liberals, until such time as Dion twigs on to the huge liability and blunders his way out of this collaboration. There are plenty of skeletons in the Greens closet, as with any neophyte party, including but not limited to their entire economic platform, which we've not yet seen, but which I'll bet dimes to dollars is just like the Leninist program the GP in the US embraces. The Canadian GP has so far announced only the usual platitudes, and it apparently intends to fund the living shite out of everything in sight, but how it will do this is only hinted at with such things as "We can do this by shifting taxes away from jobs and employment, and onto pollution and non-sustainable products, thereby freeing up funding for social programs while encouraging new infrastructure." Now I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, but I'll hazard a guess it means many many less jobs everywhere except the hemp growing industry. It shows a lack of understanding of national economics rivalled only by the new democrats, who have traditionally imagined that government sponsored work programs are a panacea for everything in spite of having a total lack of value-added or wealth creation. But what Dion has done is open a Pandoras box of unending scandal focused right on him. Dumb dumb move.

What's the deal with private banks lending money to governments then, when the Bank Of Canada could lend our money to us. Isn't that the government letting the private banks put Canadians in servitude ? Without private banks lending gov't money the banks wouldn't be able to inflate the dollar, fractionalize further and charge exorbitant interest fees for which there is no relief. A black hole. Usury creates unending debt as the interest charged can NEVER be recouped without a loss of the peoples capital for the benefit of....hmmm, I daren't say. They're bleeding us dry. Without debt, it is argued by many that Britain could not have won even the Napoleonic wars nor leveraged the capital necessary to drive ahead of the rest of Europe in the industrial revolution. It's not all a one way street here. It's all very well not to borrow, but there are certain benefits to entering debt evenm on a personal level, in that living in a house while paying a mortgage beats living on the street or paying rent until you can afford a house.

Yes, and no doubt you took the same benevolent view of things when that happened. *snort*

That's all fine and dandy, but what Canaidans want to know is, what is his position on user fees for recycling programmes? Irrelevant. Each Canadian vill be given ze amount of money each to his needs and not a penny more. No paychecks, no user fees. Long live the masses!

Any proof that the urban masses are largely fundamentalist? Not doubting just would like credible information backing that up. TYVM This is a Marxist analysis predating 911, just to head off the accusation that it was Iraq or whatever that caused it. I could look for harder data, but soi can anyone else...I just grabbed the first thing I could find: http://www.dsp.org.au/links/back/issue18/S...m#Social%20base

What I said was most Muslims are people who have different political views, much like any other group of people. No, that's not what you said. It's what you tried to say. Unsuccessfully.

followed by..... I take it you are too cowardly to apologize?

Typically dishonest post from Woody: In all, hundreds of truckloads of food worth more than $40 million are being thrown away or scavenged for unspoiled contents to be offered to domestic hunger-relief groups, said FEMA officials. Most of the meals were commercial versions of the military's Meals Ready to Eat, which were ruined despite being engineered to withstand the demands of desert and jungle climates. http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=11319

The danger is not isolated groups of taliban on the border...or even the entire tribal border region. The danger is the urban masses who are largely fundamentalist. But not to worry...it's only a few extremists.

This sentence makes no sense. That's two sentences. They seem fine to me (not artistically speaking) Really? A lot of Muslims are made up of [people]? Mostly... So we are to suppose that some Muslims are not made up of people?

I doubt it. Why don't you stick to things you actually know, rather than making yourself look silly by spouting inanities ... OH, wait, if you did that, you'd never get to post at all. Reported.

So Ho Chi Minh, Napoleon Bonapart, Sun Yat Sen, Mahatma Ghandi and Neru were all Nazis too? This Nazi thing is more widespread than I thought. Woody, you ought to stop in your tracks and go hide your head before you're tempted to say anything more.

Ummmm, no. The Green Party are in the spotlight because Dion gave up his place in line to one of them. He gave up his place in line because he wants to bolster the one thing he has politically going for him...the "environment". He ran his entire leadership campaign on that single issue.

That statement is too ludicrous to even bother refuting. Well why don't you try anyway?

They hold a "battlefield trial" Woody. A bunch of noncoms put on wigs and robes and consult the Book of Social Justice and Motorcycle Maintenance, flip a coin and then fire ordnance at the nearest house that looks like it might have bad guys in it. Grab a brain.

What I demand is equal rights for everyone. Again, marriage is not a "right". Equality (as per s.15 of the Charter) is the relevant 'right'. Statutory marriage is a government legislated matter to which everyone has an equal right. No, it's not a "right". That's like arguing that you can marry your sister, because "everyone" is inclusive of both you and your sister.

The Greens have suddenly been pushed into the spotlight by Dion. Now they'll have to come out with more of a platform than mere platitudes like "equity" and "social justice". That bodes ill for their chances if they are anything like the other green parties around the world, because they all unabashedly Leninist. What's even more interesting is that Dion has in effect allied himself with this very large skeleton-in-the-closet-waiting-to-happen. Presumably he did it to underscore his deep angst over the environment, but it's a bone stupid move with no real upside and a huge downside. Chretien would never have made such a blunder, and even Martin would probably avoid it. Dion is just beginning to catch the broadsides from this...how much ya wanna bet he'll suddenly find a pressing need to run a candidate there?

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