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Thats why another term for a rocket is a "missile" and Saturn 5 was a missile. Really I hope you are not being paid for this with tax dollars. In any conversion in which 'missile' is differentiated from a rocket launch, only the densest of meatheads would fail to understand the context of the terminology, although you seem not to understand the concept of context, since you take so much of your argument out of it. I recall that one such out of context statement was your citation of the guy who refered to the Pentagon plane as a "missile" to prove it wasn't a plane. Of course, you left out the part of the sentence in which he said it was a plane that had "become" a missile by diving into the Pentagon. Do you think he was talking about the space shuttle or the moon launch? Obviously you simply change your definitions to suit the moment.

I said it's silly. It's silly. It's silly to make ridiculous comparisons between the soviet invasion and the allied invasion. Different tactics, different arms, different allies, different everything. It's as silly as the usual Vietnam comparisons and almost as silly as the imperial Britain comparisons.

Given that the war continued many years after Tet, I find it pure speculation that North Vietnam would have stopped the fight if only only the U.S. remained committed. You think that because you don't have the slightest idea what happened in Vietnam and I strongly suspect you don't have the slightest idea what's going on in Afghanistan. I'll leave you to read up on Vietnam and what happened after Tet and why Giap felt the way he felt and why it was onvious from the homefront after Tet that it was a matter of waiting. As for the North, you posting little snippets of violence doesn't change the fact that the north is as peaceful as anywhere else in Asia. Is Indonesia a lost cause because there is a beheading or three a week? Should the government go into exile and leave the country to the tender minstrations of Islam? If you have some deepseated conviction that we ought not be there then say what it is, but don't dishonestly try to claim we're "losing", and to paint a scenario of catastrophe. I absolutely dispise this backdoor tactic of so many on the left.

... not if Elizabeth May can pull in higher ratings and more viewers. Seriously....May has as much ratings pull as a Rita MacNeil Bikini contest...... She's more known now. Rite must have lost weight.

good idea

How many varieties of sustainable edible plant life is self pollinatiting or hermaphroditic naturaly in nature? How many species of insects aid in cross pollination?

Nor does it keep armchair quarterbacks from risking soldier and civilian lives with repeated refrains of "stay the course." Such thinking probably would have kept the U.S. in Vietnam even now just because there was no actual battle where the U.S. was defeated. No, it would have, according to the commander in chief of the NVA, made NV pull out of the war and curb the VC, who had been decimated in Tet anyway. Now we can't say with any degree of accuracy that the Taliban will knock it off, because they don't actually have a national backer...at least not one who will admit it...but that's all the more reason to keep the twofold pressure of social reform and military to bear. As hot wars go, this one is pretty tame.

You don't need any kind of scientific background to see that the Saturn 5 launch looked identical to any number of missile launches you can find on the web. In fact it is a text book example - the thrust fires out the back end even further than any other missile that you will ever find videos for. Therefore the Saturn 5 was actually a missile. Its a case of claiming it looked like something else, so it must be something else.

Probably cleverly constructed in absolute secrecy by the buffoon Bush and his evil Zionist elves. Close your ears lest it take over your mind and make you into a stepford wife.

Oh, has Israel's Supreme Court acquited any of it's citizens for killing people for fornicating outside marriage, or not honouring their mother and father or anything against Judaism lately? I hadn't heard. I will certainly post it! Where did it take place?

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/1588/ http://dede.essortment.com/canadasvietnam_rgwv.htm you'll have to do better than this - do you have something official - or even real? The following text was written for the Canadian Encyclopedia and may be used or posted only if the following source recognition is given to the publisher McClelland & Stewart: Title: The l998 Canadian & World Encyclopedia, McClelland & Stewart, 481 University Ave, Suite 900, Toronto, Ontario,M5G2E9, email: [email protected]; website: tceplus.com Poor poor woody. A Phd writes it for an encyclopedia, which subsequently publishes it, but it's not "real" to woody. This must be a variation of his usual: "that's a lie".

It's not "allowed". It has nothing to do with "the empire". Stop lying.

Guys who pay attention to crap like Fox, Washington Times, Drudge, Frontpage or Axis Annie shouldn't start comparing reading materials. Woody, you are as stupid as Waz. Not as rude or flatulent, but more bovine and clumsy. You sort of sway through threads chewing your cud, until a flybite or something goads you into saying something particularly stupid, whereupon you are beaten senseless and don't even realize it. Your defenmce to documented proof is simple. You close your eyes and plug your ears and shout "lalalalala", or, if you're feeling clever, you say "that's a lie".

Well, that's the last we'll see of woody in this thread. No wait. I forgot. He'll come back and claim it's "all a lie".

Good analysis. I'd hesitate to call China a "superpower" at this point; it may be relative to the rest of Asia, but sheer numbers don't mean much militarly anymore and China's economic power, in spite of all the monetary hoopla, is largely dependent upon western markets and the wage differential between the two. If China ever did begin to achieve an economic superpower status, that wage differential will have long disappeared. They are decades behind the US in terms of technology. I'm also not sure China is as expansionist as you suggest; Tibet is important to it for strategic reasons as a defensible point against anything wandering in from India, and Taiwan is important because it's the last holdout of those pesky nationalists. As far as tweaking the tail of the tiger in the former soviet satrapies, I don't imagine they're ready to go there yet. I don't think this is true: "...influence is more powerful instrument than control...". It's not, it's just cheaper, and only sometimes cheaper. The US has far more control over Iraq now than it did before the war, in spite of influencing the bejeesus out of it and everyone else in the region through economic policy and arms transfers. I do think its likely that the US and Russia will ally at some point. Russia has always been on the fringes of Europe, not only geographically but politically and culturally as well, as has, some would argue, Britain. Whether it's an alliance against China or continental Europe or both remains to be seen, but that is at least a decade in the future. I agree that the traditional coldwar enmity between Nato and Russia is no longer a concern, and a rejuvenated Pacific fleet serves to increase Russia's ability to project force along the Pacific seaboard and is possibly a vieled threat to China, given that China's navy consists of several rusted bathtubs and a fleet of rubber ducks. I also agree that Russia is too weak to start getting uppity. It can have all the technology in the world, but if it lacks the economic muscle to use it, technology is just a bunch of chickenmarks on paper, or better yet something to sell to oil rich maniacs. Its expanded Pacific fleet may be nothing but a much needed overhaul.

Iran's Supreme Court has acquitted a group of men charged over a series of gruesome killings in 2002, according to lawyers for the victims' families. Up to 18 people were killed in just one year, but only five of the murders were tried in court. The vigilantes were not guilty because their victims were involved in un-Islamic activities, the court found. The killers said they believed Islam let them spill the blood of anyone engaged in illicit activities if they issued two warnings to the victims. The serial killings took place in 2002 in the south-eastern city of Kerman. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6557679.stm

The truth is indeed getting out. You're arguing that inexperienced kamikaze pilots in propeller planes can hit moving ships through a blizzard of lead, but modern jet aircraft can't hit two of the largest stationary buildings in the world. On top of that, you're arguing with Wilbur, an experienced passenger plane pilot! The truth is that you need help.

No, it doesn't stop them from wearing down spoiled Canadian civilians thousands of miles away. Afghanis and our soldiers appear to be doing very well. This reminds me of Giap (I think it was him, anyway) who admitted that NV was going to call it quits in 1968, except that anti-war sentiment in the US convinced them that they could wait it out.

This is false....no bees does not mean no food. It means more expensive food. Bee husbandry is part of agribusiness. Bzzzzzzzzzzz... True enough, I was oversimplifying to get a point across, but I believe it could cause more starvations in poor countries if western nations had to curtail aid shipments. Higher prices would make it harder on the poor in richer nations. Oh come off it. A few years ago it was killer bees who were going to cause mass attacks and the downfall of the world and now it's a lack of them that's going to do us in. Reminds me of the "New Ice Age" ----> "Global Warming" ----> "Climate Change" one size fits all hysteria.

For that matter, why should someone who has chosen to burden the Earth with their offspring be rewarded with public funds? Idiot. Report me. You're an idiot.

Easy. The British had infantry firing brown bess muskets and eventually single shot Martini Henry rifles, and they handily won every engagement anyway. You may not have noticed, but today's allied forces aren't trudging about Afghanistan forming fighting squares and holding off tribesmen in the hills, they are flying over top of them dropping bombs on them, driving circles around them dropping ordnance on them, and watching them in the dark to boot. War is no longer a numbers game, if it ever was. Your logic is not logic, it's sophism.

:lol: That pretty much says it all.

It is safe relative to anywhere in Asia, or Africa for that matter. What you seem concerned about is that it's not safe relative to Saskatoon. It never will be. You point to an IED that explodes in all the vast expanse of northern Afghanistan and intone that it's "getting worse"? A Pakistani engineer was killed? Perhaps a loud panic is in order here? If Max is right and you do actually know something about Afghanistan, then you're being dishonest.

It wasn't 50,000, it was mostly civilian, and it was a fighting retreat from Kabul, not an advance. It was also a single battle in a series of three wars, all of which were won by the British rather handily. It's notable only because it's the only victory the Afghans had against the British in all the years fighting them.

Wind has the same affect on a moving aircraft relative to its ability to hit a sitting target that motion of the target has. We don't know what the wind was at higher altitudes but it is always there. Right. So poorly trained kamikazes could hit teensy moving ships using propeller-driven planes and mid-20th century technology, whilst flying through solid sheets of flying lead, but trained pilots can't hit large stationary buildings using the latest in 21st century technology on a cloudless day in New York, and all because of wind. Good thing for the kamikazes there was never any wind in the South Pacific, eh? Makes you wonder what made all those waves and storms and stuff though. I've never heard about windless cyclones and tropical storms, but I'm sure that's just because it's been covered up by the Elders of Zion.