Moonlight Graham

This is one of the most hilarious posts ever on this forum, in a good way (i think?). You da man Oleg lol.

I believe in rehab, to a point. Simply locking them up doesn't solve the root problems criminals have, psychological or otherwise. How many criminals come out of homes of poverty or abuse etc.? What i don't like about the Cnd system is that sentences are often too short, prison conditions sometimes too glamorous, or criminals simply get off with little to no punishment whatsoever.

So the plan is, we drop giant loaves of bread in terrorist-filled countries and wait until they get all inside the bread eating it up all yummy-like & then we bomb the bread (or poison it) & kill all the terrorists? Hmmm....I LIKE IT!!

Agreed. Even w/ the Cnd justice system jab.

Then do you think should be done? Terrorists aren't Nazi Germany or the USSR, they are cockroaches that hide when you turn the lights on...and most don't even appear at all.

Huh? We sacrifice our security either way. We're basically f'ed. The only thing to do is to do that which minimizes the risks of making them PO'd & inciting more attacks, while still doing enough abroad to maintain our security...while also trying to minimize civilian casualties in the process. IMO the Iraq War was a disaster. PO'd countless Muslims (in the middle-east & in our own countries ie: homegrowners) and created new enemies while providing a wonderful recruiting tool for al-Qaeda & other radical groups. Beyond that, Saddam was already suitably contained & the death and suffering caused by the war has been much more than Saddam would have very likely ever caused to Iraqis if he remained (but that's another debate i dont want to go into). I think it was necessary to strike Afghanistan initially and route out al-Qaeda, but unfortunately NATO made some massive blunders, but at least al-Qaeda itself is significantly weakened. Our job there militarily is done and we should have left several years ago. As for Canada, if we had never entered Afghanistan it is almost certain the "Toronto 18" and the recent plotters picked up in Ottawa/London would have not have been planning to attack Canadian targets. This is why remaining in Afghanistan is counterproductive to our security, along with the Afghans being able to fend off the Taliban by themselves being a pipe-dream and the extremely high likelihood that any "democracy" that's being formed in the country will quickly enough transform into some kind of authoritarian gov't (or worse) via military coup or simple corruption etc. after NATO leaves.

:lol: :lol: awww man nice burn. as for the topic, this muzzling is ridiculous, almost to point of being ridunkulous.

Well i agree it has to be mutual. I'm realistic in thinking this nonsense will continue for a long time, at least on the terrorist's part. The thing about it being mutual is that, beyond the obvious radical ideological element that drives many of the terrorists, the West having a military presence in Muslim countries in the middle-east and us killing Muslims has provided a motive for their violence towards the West. The catch-22 is that if we kill & occupy, we make them angrier, yet if we cease all presence or hunting of terrorists in the middle-east we may be also sacrificing our security. Kinda like a Chinese finger-trap. I certainly don't have the answer. What exactly do you mean by this?

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I think Harper has some brains. But he's more of a Tin-man than a Scarecrow.

Maybe you should worry about your own sense of morality and not mine.

Finding a Republican with brains is like trying to find a Democrat with a backbone. It's just really hard.

so instead of saying something like "yeah my thoughts are with the dead and suffering too", you go for a jab instead? Typical dude. My honest thoughts are with you too Nancy Negative...to cheer up!

I put this thread in "rest of the world" because yes 9/11 killed many Americans, but it was truly a global event as people from 70 different countries also died in the attacks & the fallout from 9/11 has resulted in the deaths of likely over a million civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan and elsewhere. Matthew Good puts it well and echoes many of my thoughts: So here's to all those who were killed/harmed (or will be killed/harmed) on 9/11 and from the subsequent "war on terror", and to their loved ones who continue to suffer. And my thoughts to ALL those on both sides of this "war" who wish to continue to the killing & animosity, that they might see the error in their ways and, rather, proceed with actions that result in the least amount of death and suffering. I hope all this ridiculous idiocy ends somehow.

wildly outrageous sunglasses.

Christians vs Muslims vs Israelis vs Atheists vs bigots vs millionaires vs poor people vs grandmothers... Screw it: http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/71652.gif

It's precautionary. What if a test slips up. More importantly, what about new STD's (aka STI's) that may come about that don't even exist yet and aren't detected/tested for a while as HIV was? Gay men are obviously most prone to certain STD's because of the nature of how they have sex (it's all about the anus i tells ya!)

Ban all guns except long barreled guns used by hunters, and those used by police and military. Problem solved!

Darn right. This is a major part of the issue here. There are all these people demonizing Islam & Cordova House, and it's clear many of them don't know jack about Islam, the different sects, modern vs fundamentalist vs tradionalist Muslims/Islam etc. If you are going to take such a strong stand against 1.5 billion people, you better know what the bleep you're talking about. Now if you'll excuse me i'm off to hunt down some possible witches & Nazi's.

I like.

1) If you're referring to his CNN interview with the Imam, he didn't "threaten" anything. 2) So you're saying all 1.5 billion Muslims in the world are "extremists"? That's 1/4 of the global population...all extremists? All radical fundies? 2 guys on a bus doesn't = all Muslims.

Rare words of wisdom coming from Sarah Palin. I don't usually agree with the stuff that flies out of her mouth, but she hits the nail on the head today in a Facebook posting: Exactly. Rights are rights, but there's no need for all of these unnecessary provocations. They are in bad taste, to say the least.

I don't know, but that's just the way it is. If you live in the U.S. (bylaws aside), you have a legal right to burn a Koran. At the same time you are protected by the law from any idiot kook who tries to "murder you", as they will be punished accordingly. Just don't be surprised if you get a knife in the back. You also have the right to call somebody's wife a fat slut, but don't be surprised if her husband punches you in the face.

Why can't people stop being complete idiots? Stop burning Korans Stop getting violent over Mohammad cartoons Stop drawing Mohammad cartoons just to exercise your "right" to insult Muslims & unnecessarily provoke them. Stop blowing up people in the name of radical loop-hole-filled bullsh*t (aka not Islam) Stop supporting moronic wars that continue to kill Muslims unnecessarily Stop trying to blow up more people in the name of radical loop-hole-filled bullsh*t (aka not Islam) in response to those wars Stop being ignorant Islamophobes & doing stupid crap like burning Korans that does nothing but perpetuate this cycle of violence & hatred. Why can't everyone just relax? All of the above has done hardly anything constructive vs being tremendously destructive.

couldn't care less.