Moonlight Graham

Literally 3 pages in one the last federal budgets dedicated to veterans, and hundreds of pages dedicated to indigenous and gender issues. That tells you the priorities of this government, and how much they value our vets. If you're in a family you need to cater to the needs of all family members and not be picking favorites and neglecting the others.

Fair enough. We just have to follow the Queen's laws, and I guess if you're a soldier you have to follow her orders as commander-in-chief. Amen. We've become a nation of adult babies sucking off the Queen's nipple instead of asking "how can we each best serve her and her country?" Trudeau's Liberals give out half a billion dollars in "free" money, charges it to our great-grandchildren, and the Liberal approval rating skyrocket. I know how corrupt this government is. The corruption has spread its tentacles deep into every government department. Where are the patriots? Everyone is too worried about their own jobs to take a stand. The military isn't the only one they've turned their backs on, it's just that you guys are taking more of the hits than most. Yeah maybe one day a true leader will rise and save this country, but will enough people follow them? More likely the indigenous, Quebecois, Albertans, and vets etc will become so disillusioned they'll join together and sack Parliament Hill lol.

Human rights tribunals on hate speech.

One of the most naive and arrogant things NATO could do was think they could take a horribly poor landlocked desert/mountain country run by an Islamic version of the Nazis that wanted to murder us and turn it into a stable liberal democracy. What we should have concentrated on is just killing the bastards that attacked NATO until they agreed to stop, and if they didn't just start killing them again every time they act violently against us. Carrot and stick.

Unless the dictators in government tell you that you can't and haul you in front of an inquisition and charge you with heresy.

The Queen doesn't actually have much power in practical reality, mostly a symbol and rubber stamp at this point, a ceremonial position, with some reserve power in case our ruling government of the day turn into autocrats. This is a good thing because the people in Canada determine their own destiny via democracy. This is called "responsible government". The GG even carries out most of the Queen's duties, so it doesn't really matter much where the monarch lives.

The PM/cabinet/majority gov have some checks on their power if they went nuts, like the GG, the Senate, and the courts, and elections. We have less checks/balances than the US that's for sure. We have to remember our system was an absolute monarchy where Parliament in the UK slowly chipped away at the Crown's power, somewhat the same in Canada, though we were chipping away at the UK Parliament's power over us. We never rejected the monarchy, we just patriated it and transferred many of its powers to the PM. It's a totally different system of law than the US. We don't have civil law we have common law. Much of our constitutional isn't written anywhere. The Prime Minister and his role isn't mentioned anywhere in the written portions of our constitution. Canada's constitution has no "framers", it wasn't written in a single year or a single lifetime, nor was much of it even written down.

That's fine you're free to hate any Canadian individual you want. I say "we" meaning those loyal to the Queen. You either are or you aren't. The people who say they are but aren't, eff them. Rats in breach of contract.

In the OP I said swear to "Canada and/or Queen". Technically you're right, we should swear to the Queen, not Canada. So the OP should say "Queen". I'll try to correct it. And no we owe no loyalty to Canadians or our politicians.

Trojan horse. How do you stop a virus? You create a firewall with some good virus detection and delete the viruses when you find them or contain them inside a "virus vault". How is Canada's firewall? Our virus detection?

So are you. As a soldier you said you're supposed to be apolitical I thought, so bend the knee and follow the Queen's orders. That's not what you're doing. You got discharged and now are preaching sedition and disobeying the Queen's will in the name of the Queen, which is hypocritical lunacy. You have cognitive dissonance, and are making up all sorts of BS to justify it that wouldn't fly for 2 seconds in a court of law. Your enemies are the rats on Parliament Hill, and the foreign and domestic agents that want the Queen's realm to burn and then take everything from her for their own benefit. ISIS rats, CCP rats, Russian rats, etc. Unfortunately our "compassionate" immigration system has been used as a Trojan Horse by our enemies to insert foreign agents into our universities, virus research labs, government departments, corporate board rooms, and IT infrastructure. We need to expose the bastards, tar and feather them, and send them back to where they came from with a boot up their ass. Yoga boy on Parliament Hill is a rat letting them in like a naive idiot trying to "save the world", and the Conservatives weren't much better under Harper because the CCP knew how to grease their palms.

All of Canada's laws are given royal assent by the Queen, through her rep the GG. All Canada's laws are the Queen's laws, all of Canada's institutions are the Queen's institutions. Everything that is the Crown in Canada is the Queen's. Crown land etc. You swear allegiance to her, you swear allegiance to the Crown, the Crown's land, borders, institutions etc. You're making up your own history so it matches your pre-conceived narrative. The Queen of the UK has no title in this country, and no legal authority. Canada is legally not in any way whatsoever "British". We kicked the British Parliament out for good in 1982. THE QUEEN SIGNED THAT. If you want to be a Brit, go move to the UK. Like all these entitled a-hole uneducated Brits who hop the pond over to Canada and still think it's a UK colony and stick a union jack on their front lawn thinking they're going to civilize us plebs to the Empire's ways. LOL. How delusional are you to swear an allegiance to the Queen but think you can undermine all of her laws, institutions, etc and want her country to burn to the ground? "I'm loyal to you but I hate your country and i'm going to destroy it for you, without getting any orders from you to do so". LOL you're the babbling lunatic. There's your Queen, signing the Constitution, 1982:

You swore an oath to THE QUEEN OF CANADA. It's a legal contract. Read the contract before you verbally sign it. Or get legal advice if you don't understand it. "I ......... (full name), do swear (or for a solemn affirmation, "solemnly affirm") that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her heirs and successors according to law. So help me God." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(Canada)#Canadian_Armed_Forces_members The Queen demands you protect her realm from enemies foreign and domestic. Honour your f***king oath! If you're trying to burn down the Queen of Canada's nation and institutions, that means I have no choice but to protect her realm against the likes of you. And protect the Queen's realm from the rats in Parliament who take crooked money, sometimes from foreign agents, in order to further their own careers, increase their own power, and protect their jobs rather than doing what's best for the country, which is the Queen's realm. RATS! In times of turmoil In times like these Beliefs contagious Spreading disease This wretched mischief is now coursing through your souls Never to let go Never to let go Them rats! Into your sanctum You let them in Now all your loved ones And all your kin Will suffer punishments beneath the wrath of God Never to forgive Never to forgive Them rats! Rats! Rats! Rats! This devastation left your cities to be burnt Never to return Never to return Them filthy rodents are still coming for your souls Never to let go Never to let go Them rats! Rats! Rats! Rats! They're still coming after you And there's nothing you can do They're still coming after you And there's nothing you can do Rats!...

I said nihilism is reality, I didn't say it was wrong to believe in our own narratives, or to moralize I never said I didn't believe in anything, otherwise I wouldn't have created this thread. We all need to believe in something, so choose wisely. For instance, I believe liberal democracy is better than Nazism. If I believed they were both equally valid i'd be a nihilist and moral relativist, and believe in nothing. If everything is true then everything is permitted. Believing in nothing leads to cynicism and insanity, and it's bad. The goal in life is to find meaning in something and pursue it. As Jordan Peterson says, this is the antidote to chaos (nihilsim). If i'm willing to die for my country clearly I believe in something. If there's people in this country enjoying all its benefits and protections with no loyalty to defend it, or even actively working to destroy it, that's not in my interests or Canada's interests. Those people are snakes in the grass, a cancer to this great nation, and they should be exposed. You're either in or you're out. No fence sitters allowed. So choose your loyalty and choose it wisely. No aiding and abetting the enemy, no traitors. There's a fine line between free speech and sedition. Imagine someone flying a foreign flag on their property, which, sure, is allowed under free speech, thumbing their nose at a nation where its men and women risk their lives every day to protect your life, police, military or whatever. You enjoy their protection without any gratitude or allegiance and want the nation they belong to to burn. Talk about entitled. Canadians fund the military but you spit on them, want their nation to burn.

Something is a myth when it includes parts of the truth and leaves out other parts of the truth. It's a story, a narrative. It's a certain interpretation of reality spun to legitimate some belief and negate others. I'm not saying all these things you're mentioning aren't true, i'm saying the facts are presented in such a way as to craft a story for yourself and others to believe in something. There's nothing wrong with that. And I'm sure some narratives are closer to the truth than others, but they're all coming from a certain point of view while by their very nature ignoring others. This might be inevitable when we start moralizing events. "Lincoln freed the slaves and saved the Union" is one narrative, and "the brave Confederates sacrificed their lives fighting for their independence as martyrs" is another. This is why most politics is pure bullshit. Somebody's always trying to sell something, "post-national state, multiculturalism and inclusion, God Save The Queen, Make America Great Again". You have left and right all believing different versions of their truth about the world and it's all a complete pile of BS because there's infinite viewpoints and narratives depending on the perspective you look at things. When you make conclusions about the world and reality by only focusing on a certain % of the facts and ignoring others (which is almost inevitable) just because some facts fit your narrative and others don't it's called BS and delusion. So we're all delusional and ignorant sons of bitches. So the key is make sure your narrative makes the world a better place than the other guy's. But even "better" is totally up to your point of view. In the end, it's just a struggle for power, group X will win and group Y will lose, and somebody always has to win and lose, it's the nature of the universe and the function of evolution itself, it's the only way we get better as a species, it's the only way any species improves, the strong survive and the weak don't. The Brits flourished, and the indigenous didn't. Darwinism. The Marxists want equality for everyone, which is noble, but it's against the very laws of nature. We can treat people better but there will always be winners and losers of some kind and thank God for that, it's the only way we get better.

The point is that every nation has its myths. The US, Britain, Quebec, China...you just have to find the one that works and unites everyone. Every national narrative contains truths, and leaves out others. It's basically bullshit that derives meaning from a world devoid of any universal "truth" If Canada's national narrative becomes "Canada is an irredeemable country built on stolen land and murder" then that's not going to be a united or successful country. If it's something like "We have made mistakes, we are filled with many diverse groups and bicker as all families do, but at the end of the day we're one family in a great country" then that will have more success. It's all how you frame reality. Ideology is the same, it's filled with truth and leave out other truths, it's BS, but we all have to view the world somehow to function. If whatever narrative you believe in, the Orangemen of whatever, gets you through the day, go for it. I do the same, we all do, it keeps us sane and gives us something to believe in so we don't feel alone in the universe and devoid of something to love, strive for, and defend etc. It takes a damn powerful story to convince people to fight and risk death for their country instead of grabbing their family and running for the hills. Belief in God is the same. Religion is total bullshit, but it gets people through the day, and helps them be kind to one another. Cynicism comes from nihilism, when you realize everything is a lie and the world is cruel and meaningless. Not a good way to live one's life.

Nations are just stories we tell ourselves, a narrative to derive meaning and belonging. Maple Leafs vs Canucks. All just hockey fans, divided into teams to root for and against, flying different flags, someone winning and someone losing, Hitler pushed all sorts of bullshit myths to get the people to have feel a sense of togetherness and fight common enemies.

If we had a philosopher king it might mean someone who actually has a brain and uses it to think rather than inventing ways to get more attention on himself. Wouldn't be as bad as our literature major who is a silver spoon-fed prince that thinks he's a white knight out to save the indigenous, women etc while not actually living his own words. You can't do that and then turn around grabbing female reporters, elbowing female MP's in Parliament, firing indigenous female attorney generals, and wearing blackface. What a clown. Everything he's ever done in his life is to get people to pay attention to him and make a big fuss over him. Sounds like somebody whose daddy wasn't home very much as a child. Look at me daddy!! Look at me!!!

I agree, when all you hear is the negative while the schools and media don't teach us or remind us of the positive, the only people making noise about history are those with gripes from the past. I don't blame those people hard done by for being angry at certain things, but what they need is justice, we don't have to feel shame and guilt for our entire existence, it's so dumb and destructive. Like a cancer. These people are out to destroy western civilization through their guilt.

Well my gramps would never lay a finger on anyone (unless in self-defense I guess, but I never saw or heard of him doing that). I don't mean tough like macho, I just mean he was literally fearless. If someone cut in line he would always stand up for himself and tell the person exactly what he thought, and not let them get away with it. Agreed. I don't think it has to be left or right, just someone with common sense, empathy, integrity, and the balls to do things without being afraid of losing their job or election over it. I'm not a fan of Trump, but that man had balls, and didn't give a rip what people thought, and that was attractive to a lot of Americans who were fed up. We need someone like that, but much more reasonable, like a Jesse Ventura, who just tells it like it is, no fear.

So that means you'll swear allegiance to the Queen of Canada before voting right? LOL

Kinda like a bunch of kids in Portland, Oregon getting ready to set a business on fire?

A big mouth and the courage to use it.

Our governments have disgraced our military. They turned their backs on you guys. It's all about money, these politicians are careerist sociopaths with no honour or allegiance to Canada. They want to spend on their vanity projects and throw money around buying votes, and giving favours to their corporate lobbyist friends and foreign agents that scratch their back. But i'll tell you what, they've turned their backs on a lot of Canadians just to further their careers and their own power. The regular workers, the young people trying to buy a home. The provinces that throw money around on garbage while our health care systems rot. You've been betrayed but most of us have too. Don't take it personally, narcissistic sociopaths only care about themselves

Well you have some good points in here. You don't deny your history you embrace it. Canada is and always has been a gradual evolution, it's the british way lol. Canadians are british, french, and small parts of everyone else who makes up the nation.