Guthrie

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20070413-6.html no need for a 'media outlet' --- it's even on the White House web pages --- only the truly demented are holding on to any denial at this point

backpeddle a little faster and maybe you can go back in time and fix your post before you submit it

In that case next time some one starts attacking Zionists or those evil Christian fundamentalists better remove that one too. so, are you saying ALL Christians are evil? and when you say, 'Zionist,' do you include all Jews into that group??? or do you just practice your bigotry against Muslims?

So when are you going to swear off all products of fossil fuels and go stand in your backyard naked for a month without eating? when are dimwits, such as you, going to admit the truth?

Bush et al can look forward to even worse exposure than they currently have. They don't care about anything at this point but covering their arses from political and legal trouble -- they are not just in jeopardy of losing their base but many of them have to start preparing to defend themselves from criminal charges which may put them in Leavenworth

so, we shouldn't care until the geek buys a pair of semi-auto hand guns and murders 33 people? I'd like to think there is middle ground - like, when bullies use racism as their rallying cry, their punishment be made a public example - so 1)put the bullies in their place and 2)disarm the geeks

I don't shovel snow woody. I have a four foot snow blower mounted on a diesel tractor. nor was I talking to you

you guys, failing to have a real argument, have resorted to making up an argument, attributing it to me and then attacking it -- it is, once again, the pathetically old, 'straw man,' argument -- you can't defend destroying the planet so you have to make up arguments about people wanting solar trucks home delivering lentil soup --- it is nothing but buffoonery but it is, finally, all you have left

Are you going to bicycle to Central America? are none of you guys aware of green energy? did you not check out those lovely links I gave you? do you choose to remain in ignorance as opposed to actually wisening up??? are you complete fools?

IMHO skippy is a prime candidate for anyone's ignore list

Hey woody, I challenge you to spend a year, nay, a month, not using fossil fuels or any products which require them. Are you game? Can you go a month without eating? almost as if he knew what he were talking about --- people ate, long before they used fossil fuels and if we are lucky enough to survive the buffoons who now poison the earth with their fossil fuel derivatives and their personal stupidity, people will go on eating after fossil fuels are long gone Right. So I'm challenging you to do the same. Starting now. Turn off your computer, your heat, your electricity, your water, take everything out of your fridge that was produced with the help of fossil fuels and give it to your neighbour, give away your car, stop going to work, and live outside your house without a tent or any bedding except whatever animal skins or nonindustrial cottage industry material you can dredge up. I dare you to give up the use of fossil fuels or its derivitives for a month. Since you think wind power is so easy to switch to, you can probably rig up some sticks and twigs into some sort of windmill, although where you are going to get the wire to transmit power, or to what end, is beyond me. But hey woody, natural is best, right? Think you can do it? How sad, particularly for you slow pated luddites who can't see a transformation that is measurable in under 6 months and --- ****wake up here lads **** over the course of five years, a program which could be truly phenomenal and outward reaching across all aspects of society. How drab and dull, the world you live in -- take a look, find someone who can inject some color into your brain and picture yourself leading the way to mankinds golden beginning. take your hippie clap trap and your toxic-carcinogenic-toxic-waste,lesion-producing luddite past and give it over to the NEW TECHNOLOGY!!! --- HEY, IT'S AT YOUR DOOR http://www.managenergy.net/products/R1002.htm http://www.faz.net/d/invest/meldung.aspx?id=45345048 http://www.wind-works.org/FeedLaws/Germany...terFischer.html I take it that's a "no"? You can take it anyway you want -- you are, per usual, wrong. I can live the rest of my life without fossil fuels and live a better life than any snow shoveling fool.

This is a lie. No surprise, tho, the guy has been upset with me ever since, after I showed up his failure to understand the meaning of the word 'hegemony,' he was permanently banned from another forum and he blamed me for it. the thread title says Radical Islam --- if this thread is intended to attack Islam then it needs to be removed as bigotry

What subject, besides the insinuation that currently, there is an equivalence between Radical Islam (which has contributed nothing of value to the world) and the other two great monotheistic religions? am still waiting to hear about this, Radical Islam --- how is it any different than Radical Xtianity or Radical Judaism??? more to the point -- why do you compare, "Radical Islam," to "the other two great monotheistic religions?" That is, why are you attempting to substitute, "Radical Islam," for "Islam?" --- Radical anything should not be compared to, "other great monotheistic religions" --- as if it were in the same league Radical Xtianity and Radical Judaism have contributed nothing of value to the world -- so why do you insult Islam with this type of vile deception ???

Link ???

Would it be in order were I to correct a misrepresentation or two??? First off, no, no one set out to create a religion. Mohammed, felt sent to a society to bring a way to worship God and live according to God's law's. This is no different than Nuh, Ibrahim, Muse or 'Ise. Second, taxes were collected from traders who crossed the land and used to improve wells and dig new ones, all to the benefit of the people. So, these, "Islamic extremists," how do you differentiate between them and other Muslims? Certainly, modern mathematics is still built on the work of Islamic scholars?

Hey woody, I challenge you to spend a year, nay, a month, not using fossil fuels or any products which require them. Are you game? Can you go a month without eating? almost as if he knew what he were talking about --- people ate, long before they used fossil fuels and if we are lucky enough to survive the buffoons who now poison the earth with their fossil fuel derivatives and their personal stupidity, people will go on eating after fossil fuels are long gone Right. So I'm challenging you to do the same. Starting now. Turn off your computer, your heat, your electricity, your water, take everything out of your fridge that was produced with the help of fossil fuels and give it to your neighbour, give away your car, stop going to work, and live outside your house without a tent or any bedding except whatever animal skins or nonindustrial cottage industry material you can dredge up. I dare you to give up the use of fossil fuels or its derivitives for a month. Since you think wind power is so easy to switch to, you can probably rig up some sticks and twigs into some sort of windmill, although where you are going to get the wire to transmit power, or to what end, is beyond me. But hey woody, natural is best, right? Think you can do it? How sad, particularly for you slow pated luddites who can't see a transformation that is measurable in under 6 months and --- ****wake up here lads **** over the course of five years, a program which could be truly phenomenal and outward reaching across all aspects of society. How drab and dull, the world you live in -- take a look, find someone who can inject some color into your brain and picture yourself leading the way to mankinds golden beginning. take your hippie clap trap and your toxic-carcinogenic-toxic-waste,lesion-producing luddite past and give it over to the NEW TECHNOLOGY!!! --- HEY, IT'S AT YOUR DOOR http://www.managenergy.net/products/R1002.htm http://www.faz.net/d/invest/meldung.aspx?id=45345048 http://www.wind-works.org/FeedLaws/Germany...terFischer.html

Imagine how big you are on the Dark Side when you shoot a guy and the victim has to apologize. That's Darth Vader stuff. This guy is Satan.

once again, look who's talking about sucking on the govt tit ---- a retired submarine spy who says he doesn't get all his money from the govt as his pension isn't enough to live off and boy isn't it lucky he gets social security

So what is the *root* of the problem? *Why* was this child handcuffed? *Why* does the school policy prohibit teachers from physically restraining students? Why don't you think on that for a few hours, Arlo? Then when you think you've come up with an answer, go back and think about it for a few more hours until you come up with a good answer. Then get back to me and let me know what you've come up with. -k Why don't you think on that for a few hours, Arlo?... "So what is the *root* of the problem?" Well, Ms Cattrall, the root of the problem is education has been devalued in the name of spreading death. *Why* was this child handcuffed? The child was handcuffed because the people who run the schools in Florida lack the training and support necessary to deal with children. *Why* does the school policy prohibit teachers from physically restraining students? First, I haven't seen that policy and quite the contrary the little girl had been taken out of the room and put in isolation. Second, how IS IT policy to threaten a child with a felony arrest?? If you can't figure out what kind of physical contact is appropriate with a child, you need to find another calling - let somebody do the job who has the skills with children which succeed when others fail; and that latter group of people, they need to be paid a decent wage and given decent benefits.

I am on the opposite side of cavalier about rules that allow 6 year old kids to be handcuffed - that is exactly the point. My concern is the children. Your concern is the law and the fear of lawsuits - I don't care what you think is the problem, the fact that our children are being mistreated in this unconscionable manner, is beyond any excuse. So the problem isn't the legal system. The problem is children are being handcuffed. Anyone who thinks it is ok for children to be handcuffed are part of the problem.

every time a new general was it town and every time the British contradicted their own policies\ that's right, and that sh*t is happening now -- but I am glad you removed your first sad answer to that one

No, none of my post was directed at you or any one person. My post was directed at the situation and the argument and state of education in America, which is pathetically dysfunctional. The concern I was trying to focus on, is the children. I want children, in schools, to be given a safe, nurturing environment where they can learn --- when teachers are bringing in cops and handcuffs then the school system has FAILED as for solutions, it is really quite simple -- move education up on the national priority list - put it a notch ahead of new more efficient machines of death - and then, we can return to that time when education meant something

prior to WWII, Palestine was occupied by the Turks then the British -- during WWII Palestine traded hands but it was not until after WWII that Palestinians had their personal farms stolen and if they resisted, their lives taken Abu Nidal, at age six, watched Israeli tanks butcher his grandparents. So, yes, Abu Nidal turned into a vile terrorist but he had a reason to be one. All this Nazi talk is beyond hypocritical, in light of other discussions, moreover, it overlooks the glaring fact that all the Palestinian people ever wanted from any European power was help gaining freedom from some other European power. the neo-con rewrite of history is convenient for Israel but a pile of lies

Well, the newspapers are full of the 90% who can now see the truth. And this hall tells us what kind of nut jobs comprise the trailing 10%

As I've pointed out... the issue is not how to take care of 6 year olds (in fact, I'm sure that pretty much any teacher can restrain a 6 year old). The issue is how to restrain a 6 year old so that: a) the risk of harming the child is lessened, the risk to people and property is lessened, and c) the risk of lawsuits is lessened. So, how would YOU handle a disruptive/destructive student in that situation? Easy to say "what happened was wrong", but there have been remarkably few practical suggestions on how the situation could have been handled better. Outside of your interaction with the child, those are YOUR issues, not the childs. I say, when your plan to, "handle a disruptive/destructive student in that situation," is to check your legal situation and call the cops with the handcuffs, then OUR education system has become pathetically dysfunctional. None of the children in that classroom can possibly be getting what they need. Go home