madmax

And a good rule too. I just starting posting on some of the other boards, as things slowed down here for a while. I have a question regarding the crossposting. I take it that you can't blanket copy the same post, but could post messages of the same topic on different forums without breaking the rules here?

I am sorry, but we already have two Bernier threads going

Couillard was asked to be a CPC candidate before meeting Bernier. http://ondemand.canoe.tv/?cid=MKTPPCADCANNews__EN20080526_ This is a fun interview. What is a CLASSIC CLEANUP OPERATION?

It was just a matter of time before the CPC knives came out on Bernier. He has resigned, to save further embarrassment. This goofball, dupe, absent minded minister of affairs (foreign) will be back in the CPC arms, with hugs and kisses in a year and a bit. Because the CPC needs this character and his seat, more then he needs them. Regardless of his incompetence. I find it interesting, that while we question the integrity of the "travelling Companion" with recent biker ties, who managed to gain access to Berniers documents (and return them too), that she may have something to do with "airport" security. With associations to the mob, outlaw bikers, and political ministers, is there more here then meets the eye.............candy.

Harper doesn't have a winning strategy.

McGuinty's Brother wants to bring in his own tax, like BC. The City of Toronto is bringing in their own electronics tax. This is to help pay to transport unwanted electronic goods to Michegin. Good for the environment.

Must be tricky in the winter. Better get a horse and buggy/sleigh. That's how it's done in communities near me. I bet you have never ridden in a car/bus/plane,train..... Someone politically active that only rides a bike. I think these other communities have you beat. And they don't vote.

Thanks for the commenting to my question.

What mode of transportation do you use?

Why will this be the single best thing? I don't understand the significance of the move.

It has never been beyond the Liberals to pander to a poll........ why else would such a proposal come forth from Dion. There are two Provinces that have legislation now (Gas Taxes). I am interested in see the results between the two choices. BC vs Quebec. Maybe see the answers in 5 years.

I do not know what Harpier knows of Bernier, his background or his personal "travelling companion". But I do know that it would be prudent to do a vetting of his "travelling companion" and determine if he was a dupe to people involved in organized crime and Outlaw Gangs. I don't think Harper rolled the dice. I agree with Capricorn.

Ok, did some digging (Old Story). Is this similar to what you are suggesting? Look at the participants involved. I think this is similar and appears to "tax the polluter" , and benefits, the communities. (That's if they don't blow the money on limo rides ) http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/20...carbon-tax.html and like you suggested would happen....

More bad coverage for Finley TODAY http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDi....aspx?e=1037535

THese are her problems, her promises, and people believed her, because it is very much still a CPC riding, and she had "connections" and people really expected something if the CPC came into government. IF you read more articles, you will find that all parties voted a few weeks back to support the exit strategy. The CPC were outvoted in committee. Most people don't read or care about committees, we have better things to do, but since this is one of 2 crises issues in her riding the papers, and radio make certain the electorate know what is going on in detail. She only has to look in the mirror. Perhaps the CPC think they can hold onto this riding, regardless. I don't think so.

You might not want to go down this path, even if you do not like the messenger.

I am entitled to my entitlements. Remember that was only a pack of gum. Seem like we just have another pig at the trough, and that there will not be real change in government. Reform is dead.

Under alot of circumstances this would be the case. The problem is Finleys complete and utter abdication of the riding. It is really bad, but don't mistake the fact that the CPC has strength in the riding. Just not enough to overcome her behaviour. She is the weak link, not just the issues and how she handles them. The LPC will have just as difficult a time with the issues. But if you look at how the Provincial Candidate mucks it up and increased his vote total against a Liberal Tide, on 2 occassions, you really start to realize that people will come out to vote, if just to vote her out. The CPC riding association would be better off with a different Candidate, but that is not possible. Expect many CPC voters to stay home, and expect those CPC/LPC swing voters to give her the toss. She wasn't hated in 2004 or 2006, but now, there is alot of anger, towards her.

Where there is smoke there is fire. People can speculate on a public forum all they wish. That doesn't make it true. Finley should come clean. Otherwise, Shakey isn't going to be the only one speculating what the Prime Ministers says, and whether or not he will lie under oath. I myself, don't have that crystal ball, but should he ever consider lying under oath, the chances of being disgraced, increase. Remember Nixon.

This is Liberal/Conservative country. Has been and likely always will be. It is a Tobacco riding, and many believed that they had good representation with Speller. But the party was the weak link, and he paid an early price. Finley took advantage of this, and pressed home issues and said things that would appeal to this riding. She hasn't delivered, and even still, she spends more time attacking those who question her lack of action/activity. "Wheres Diane" signs have been around for over a year. Two terms and she has been a vacant lot in the midst of agitation and multiple crises's in the riding. From the local paper.... And here is what being 25 years out of touch can provide. Citing Ginseng as an alternative crop is an idea that has already been in place for over 25 years..... This creates just as much talk, because it makes those wonder if he understands the problem, let alone the solution.

Mr. Finley's silence is deafening.

Finley is toast. She will still get alot of votes, but not enough to win. Eric Hoskins isn't a star candidate but is being played up as one. He said some pretty ridiculous things, and his ignorance of the riding was very apparent. It's been pretty sorry state of affairs when the riding cannot produce local candidates from either party, but returnees, who have lost touch, and appear to be more into themselves. The Tobbacco Farmers aren't going to get their Billion Dollar Buyout from the Liberals anymore then from the Conservatives. This is about punishing Finley, who has appeared arrogant, out of touch, and nothing more then a party hack. Her lack of creditials prior, and her deep connections within the CPC have produced SQUAT for the riding, and a bunch of dissmissive comments. It reminds me of City Folk moving into the countryside for peace and quiet, then complain about the slaughter house, the pig manure, combines running into the night, snowmobiles, atvs, guns, and pickup trucks. And that is what both these candidates are. City boy going to fix everything. Green Acres is the place to be.... The riding has had to long term reps, Barrett and Speller. The riding bought into the CPC song and dance, and have realized that it is all BS. The CPC has run away from the Land Claims Crises, and this is her riding. They have performed worse then the Liberals, and that is a difficult thing to do, as the Liberals did nothing .... and would continue to do nothing, but pretend to be interested, the CPC have shown contempt for the riding. There are some ridings the CPC may win in Ontario, but this is one they are going to LOSE.

I think you have summed up this thread perfectly. It's nothing personel, just good politics.

That is your opinion. David Suzuki has never held back his opinion. He believes this is the way to go. He believes that a revenue neutral tax will save the planet. Problem is, to believe that the Liberals, even under Dion, would follow through on a campaign platform issue to begin with is like believing in Santa Clause. I don't believe there is any merit to this proposal. Suzuki is entitled to his opinion. I am tired of hearing people bash Suzuki because he speaks his mind. But I do not trust Dion, Dions Flip Flop nor do I believe that a revenue neutral tax will save the planet.