madmax

And how does the Religious right feel about Conservatives supporting Gays, gay Rights, Gay Marriage, and Gay MPs?

Pure nonsense.

We have to have more Scandals then that...

Read before you comment.... The list is short and covers multiple events, it is not a list on the CPC.

Merry Christmas to all the posters and lurkers in this forum of MapleLeaf Web. madmax Just add your Merry Christmas below.....

Exactly... and now Harper has put a Trojan Horse in the Senate.

Anyone who changes stripes between Separation and Federalism so quickly is not to be trusted. Let alone appointed to the Senate. He then became a two time Loser.......no longer trusted by the public. Now he has been appointed to an unelected body accountable to no one. This is about Kissing Quebec Butt. Politicians who receive a brown nose from butt kissing, will find that their "good" intentions are undermined by the stink.

I see you have a problem with that. I have no problem with you expanding past the eyeballs.

Yes it is a 5 year program in Manitoba, or a 2 year if you have a degree, which is normally 3years. Overkill IMHO, but whatever works. I personally believe that teachers need to hold real jobs prior to becoming an instructor. Growing up in the education system, having summers off, then going to University and Teachers College, leads to a disconnect with the working public. It is not uncommon for students to stay in University in order to avoid what they term the "real world". Education is a great thing. But experiencing life outside of the education system is a must to me. That is neither here nor there with regards to this thread. I don't know any teachers who make under $50,000 in Ontario that are employeed full time. Manitoba may have it right. $42,887 $65,310 is the spread. Alberta, ironically pays the most to its Public Teachers.

I wouldn't be laughing as hard as I am now, if your handle wasn't GOAT BOY.

Yes it is intentional. Thanks for picking up on that. Much appreciated.Thanks for highlighting the discussion I lost more when the Canadian Dollar rose ...... I am ok now

Funny how the world turns isn't it.

Private sector Unionization is on the decline both in membership and with regards to increasing wages and benefits for employees. While I do not argue that Private Sector value added Union employees have higher productivity levels according to all industry studies, the Industries to which these productivity benefits are achieved vs non union workforce are leaving. It doesn't matter if the Union puts the company in a position to become more productive, if the bottom line can be achieved elsewhere, cheaper through globalizations increased Free Trade agreements. Companies require higher productivity of the Union Labour and also require cuts to wages, pensions, holidays in order to remain competitive with global competition, even if the competition comes from within the same Company. Fighting tooth and nail, puts both the private sector company and the employee in jeapardy of losing their already precarious operations, and proves fruitless. The best thing Unions have been doing is fighting to keep Jobs in Canada, which I have seen first hand, while the government tries to aid companies in relocating operations. The Pubic Sector is a valueable service, but their membership, leaders and employers (the Government) all need a reality check. As this trend, and it is only the beginning, becomes more mainstream among the private sector, the pressure is going to come very strong to create a level of "PAY EQUITY" between the public sector and private sector wages.

I have made alot of polls which are usually well received. This poll has only two choices on purpose. While you maybe correct that there is "NO PLACE" for you to vote, you may choose the one that is the closest to your position. You can put a disclaimer on your choice in the comments section. As for a foolish poll, I must say, that I have direct contact with a number of private establishments that are profitable that are probing these cuts in addition to reduction of hours and employees, while others have these specific cuts on the table for both unionized and non unionized staff. Fair enough, and not taken into consideration in this poll. That is reserved for another thread, but is a valid point. Interesting points. Thanks.

Thanks... And how do you feel about Harper Appointing a Separtist to the Senate? Do you think it is Good for Canada, or do you view it like Punked?

Where do you live? Sweden, France? A person in your position is unlikely to be in a Union if in the private sector. I am not certain how many Unionized bean counters exist, but I haven't met any outside of the public sector.

You may never find better paying job in the private sector then your current public sector employment. Your statements suggest that you overvalue your position, and the positions of others. Your statements have also undervalued the work of others in the private sector to justify your "superior" work in the public service. You have made a brilliant arguement... it's like talking to the public sector over the phone Normally I like to boast. "Lets Compare Pay Stubs" but since you are public sector, I hate to believe I could come up on the short end of the stick based on the stats that suggest a Public Sector Employee makes 41% more then the private sector employee in the same line of employment. Public Sector Pay and benefits are out of line with the current private sector. The Private Sector is facing a downturn. So is the Government, as tax revenues decline, and deficits increase, changes have to be made to the workplace. The private sector is acting. Should this trend continue, and I believe it will for the forseeable future, the Public Sector Pay, perks and benefits that already far exceed what exists in the private sector will stand out that much more once the private sector cuts are followed through on. The public sector is very immune and as you said and job security is superior. Job Security is something that the Public Sector take for granted. Thus, more pay, more benefits, less work, less productivity and more job security is a major contrast to the private sector.

In Ontario a Grade three teacher can make $94,000. Plus, Pension, Benefits, and paid sick days. An Auto Mechanic Tech teacher, sometimes called "Transportations" or some other dumbass name by elitist who dumb down the curriculum, is in the $44-$52,000 range. They leave the bench, where $50 to $85,000 is possible to both instruct and get away from nagging injuries. An Automech apprentices for 5 years and writes college exams. The are required to go to University and Teachers College to instruct in the colleges. Teachers do not have to go to University for 5 years. Some do and some don't and it is done to increase their credentials to be hired, and to increase their pay based on credentials among other things.

I think that is a drawback of funding political parties with a vote.

Read thread and Vote HERE

Bump.... Since Mr. Canada hijacked his own Quebec Butt Kicking thread to talk about Political Funding. Here is the Alta4ever poll.

Harpers choice was to give Quebec Separtists a SENATE SEAT. Something a Separtist couldn't receive without his Blessing and Support.

TPB burned out real quick, whereas DuctTape kinda stuck around for a long time. Something kept RedGreen together all that time. Booze and Dope vs Duct Tape.. hmmm.... Wasn't Cheech and Chong part of the first NAU?

Campaigned for Separation..... But Separtists have ties to the Conservatives so this isn't shocking.