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you mean the dominionists don't you?

Harper is the anti-Christ now? He's in on it with those damn dominionists isn't he catchme!? Please, tell us more.

Agreed 100%! for different reasons I suspsect, but agreed nonetheless.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, .... You can make the same artificial distinction between any two belief systems (e.g. Buddhism and Christianity). It does not mean that the belief systems have nothing in common. What merit?Most of the conflicts in the world are caused by zealots insisting that their belief system is the one and only true belief system (atheists often as a bad as any theist when it comes to zealotry). A little humility goes a long way towards social peace. Ahhh.. thanks Riverwind. You have done a better job arguing what I have been trying to get across to them for a couple of weeks now.

Occam's razor. Your zealotry leads you to be dismissive and unopen to other's opinions. it also makes you a hypocrite because you are arguing against religious zealotry. I am afraid that you are the one who doesn't 'get it'.

Atheists can call themselves whatever they want - it does not change the fact that Atheism is just another form of religion.Anyone who presumes that they have a monopoly on the 'truth' and that all other belief systems are inferior are, by definition, religious zealots. Atheists are often guilty of exactly that behavoir. 100% accurate. That was I was trying to get across to these zealots in the other threads. tTo no avial. Their mind is made up. We are dumb and that is it.

uhhm... Iran is the biggest sponsor of Hezbollah.... Can you connect the dots? Can you say plausible deniability?

Such as ... ? You have been following along just like me.

Sell damnit!! Sell!!!

I'm not sure if that's what MU means but that's what I voted just in case it does.

mmmm...... hot dogs.....

Yep, they got those on the CDN Frigates. very cool. Not so sure about the cheap part though

There are numerous examples in this thread, mostly Drea and Cyber calling for an infringement on religious rights. That's pretty scary in my opinion.

My apologies - I have never suffered fools easily. I will try harder for you - I promise.

Shit, our Sunfire is assembled in Mexico.... haha yep. Alot of the componets are outsourced from all over the world too. For example, a car assembled in NA by a NA manufacturer could have more Japanese componets than a Japanese car assembled in Japan. It's one big clusterfuck.

it's all a moot point anyways, alot of the 'foreign' cars are built right here in NA anyways.

So your point is you feel oppressed by religion? You do know what the seperation of church and state means do you not?

~PUKE~ Disagree all you like but I pointed out the hypocricy of atheists wanting to restrict religious beliefs as intolerable as a theocratic state. Infringement of personal liberty is the problem. The reason behind the action is irrelevant - hence the fanatical atheists on this board are behing EXACTLY like the fanatical relgious people they so loathe. Hypocritical to the extreme. I received no feedback on that so I can only assume that they missed the point or they got it and chose to ignore it as there was no reasonable explanation for their fanaaticism and they didn't like the comparison. Also, I am not a religious proponet - I just believe people should be free in thought.

You don't cite things because you have nothing to indicate one is better than the other. Consumer Reports surveys owners. It is in every link and in the Report I am looking at now. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/pr...rview/index.htm J.D. Powers doesn't actually test vehicles as they say in their own website. http://www.jdpower.com/faqs-auto/default.aspx I have nothing against J.D. Powers but don't try to tell me one is better than the other or that Consumer Reports somehow pulls conclusions on new or used cars out of thin air. Are you THICK man? I did not say one was better than the other I merely explained a difference in the methodologies. We were talking about quality as a perception vs. a reality. Consumer Reports uses 'perceived reliability' in their survey whereas JD powers uses a survey of actual owners who have had the actual cars for some time and asks them to report on actual repairs etc. I thought it pointed out my point on perceived vs. actual reliability and how they are different and how the NA manufacturers have caught up on actual relibility but the perception lags on perceived relaibility. It's impossible to have an actual relibility score for a car that was just released which is why Consumer reports uses theirs. I was not disapraging one over the other. Do you get it now?

You'll have to show me a citation independent of either organization that state the difference and why one is superior to the other. Otherwise, I think all I am hearing is your opinion. Well if you bothered to look at anyone's links it spells it out for you. JD powers surveys actual owners and consumer reports uses 'predicted reliability'. I am not going to cite things because you are mentally lazy, sorry. PS: Beaty ride Bmax!

Sens in 5

And fix them......VW is one of the worse for costly repairs, check their record on line before you do. Yep. My first car was a 4 speed VW fox. Loved the car - everyone loves their first car, but it broke down quite a bit and it was a bitch to fix and the parts were crazily priced.

Both rely on subscribers telling then what has happened with their cars. No they don't. Only JD powers does. Consumer Reports gives an opinion, JD power surveys the owners.

But even Ford and Chevrolet brands were better than Mazda which I think alot of people would find surprising. I think a lot of people would be surprised that Mazda had a luxury car..... Did you look at the chart? Ford is the brand, rated higher than mazda. the luxury brand of ford manufactured cars would be Lincoln. have a look at the link I posted. Also, Consumer reports says 'perceived quality' as opposed to my posting by JD powers which reports ACTUAL reliability. Perception vs. actual which was kinda my point in the first place.

Can't make chicken salad from the chickenshit of your last post. ok then