KrustyKidd

No, I don't think Elder was refering to pet pooping problems at the city park. More like Watermelon Eco Socialists (Green on the outside, red on the inside) using the "useful idiots" of the ecological groups to gain a following. It seems that wherever there are a lot of people with time to wear sandwhich boards there is a lot of socialists. Peace groups such as the Stop the War Coalition have this small problem. Note the eco group "Green Socialist Network and Socialist Alliance" on this mug shot of losers. Quilt by association? IS THERE ANYBODY ON THIS COMITTEE THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE FOR BEING ON IT? BTW, the ones that look normal, put them on Google, theres a socialist listed on their site somewhere. It' would actually be funny if they wern't turning good people into robots.

I have to say that I'm a pretty easy going guy. Gays are just people, same as orientals, Pakistanis and whoever else is a minority. They never bothered me any. Kinda neat actually to see all the different stuff and variety in the way we look and act. That said, I didn't have a problem with gays until I started getting parades and marrige crap shoved down my throat, same with this. Want to make me look at them like they are idiots and should be treated as such? This is the way.

Got to ask this question every so often in this discussion. Why are we bringing this Sharia Law here to Canada? If these people are homesick, I know the cure. Next, sure, maybe it can work with our law. Why though? I like my country just the way it is. I like knowing that we are all following the same rules, same law. The last reason is just an observation; isn't law hard enough to deciepher as it is without introducing something foreign into it?

You are right, it is. That's why these clowns should go back to where they came from if they don't like our law. Our law is good enough for Indians, whites, reds, yellers, blacks, homos, woman mounters but not them? See ya! My Canada includes 1 SET OF LAWS not fifty, no matter how they configure, take apart, overlap, come together. Say I'm a fellow Smuftie, I covet my neighbor's ass, he takes offense, hauls me into Judge Muhmar and I get sentenced into handing this guy a chicken in court. LOL, all better now. Who's time and money did we waste with this crap? And so now I go over to Redneck Bob and covet his ass (with a chicken ready in my pack for payment) and after kicking mine he sues the tail off the courts for not documenting me as an ass covetor. Man, this is too much, so far, we have chickens, two types of asses(ok three) two laws and the potential for a lot of confusion. I think just being not soooooooo Liberal might be in order here.

They have to make a deal with the devil to win. Do the Liberal thing and buy votes with a $200 cheque to people who normally don't vote. Tell them that if they get in they will .... Bigger cells for convicts, free TVs to seniors, free tuition for university students, free portfolio for any Liberal backbencher that converts, guaranteed ratios and positions for fag MPs, promise to settle all Aborigional issues withing two years. Anything. Can always do the Liberal thing if they have a problem later, just don't deliver. Main thing is, get the votes, One more thing, (advice from a former girl friend) don't let anybody on camera who has a haircut like John Charest. Serious.

Riff, those are wise words indeed

Actually, either is the US. However, you are not a country with interests and alliances across the planet. If you were you would probably not have many left after they were all taken over by either Communism, Dictators such as Saddam or Religious Fanatics. Glad you run nothing but your keyboard.

Wow, that blows my mind. Now I'm pissed.

So if you train an employee to become manager and he starts to work against you it is wrong to replace him? Not that it was that simple or that that was the case, just throwing it back at you. Saddam may have served the US intrests at one time but certainly has done nothing to do so in the years scince the Iran war. So once we back him he is our buddy for life? Glad you don't influence foreign policy. Speaking of that, the US has learned much from all this. Just last week Powell chasitised Algreria's President for not making more inroads on a variety of democratic fronts. Strong statements indeed. The days of what you oppose are comming to a slow end so guess you will have to find another country to bash LOL

Yhat's why they also declared war on all those who would aid and abett terrorists. Duh. Not governments that have insurgent groups among them but governments that have insurgent groups among them that do not act to stop them.

Educate me bro. Enlighten me on these facts please.

Hillary's no camera bitch. Unlike Bush who is only there for the photo op, Hillary at least treats the soldiers with the contempt they deserve.

Sex is cheap? I guess that it all, is in the eyes of the beholder. The only sex that I wish I had never had was with this physco chick a few years back. She stalked my ass for over a month. Had to have another girlfriend of mine threaten her with bodily harm if she didn't leave 'her husband' (me) alone LOL. Of course, I wasn't portrayed in any hit releases and later try to become Pastor of the Church or Governor of any state so wouldn't know of the downsides of feeling cheap. Excellent point! Everyone knows that it is not right yet those who are going to have an abortion will gloss over all facts and reason because they have a glimmer of rationality and consensus for their desires. They amplify that in order to do their will. I am sure that somebody will come up for a refutation of some kind for this incubator point and failing that just simply say that it is legal. Would this not fall under the second and third trimester ruling and thereby make the legal point that you have just made? When does black turn to white if there is no such thing as gray? As a being grows it forms all sorts of things, a central nervous system included. Of course at some point it will feel pain much like a donkey fetus will feel it abut that stage but does not mean that it is a donkey. It is this gray area that is exploited by both sides. The pro life people tell everybody that life begins at conception. A sperm and an egg. There is no central nervous system in place and it cannot feel pain so when can it?

Looks like Liberalism is comming home to roost huh?

OK, think I got on track now. You mean to say that he meant " elected" as in forming a legitimate government based on the will of the people?

Bzzzt. Wrong. Go back and study German history, 1933. Actually the Nazis were elected. CLICK HERE TO SEE NAZI FREAKS Want to know why Brunning and his sucessor could not unify the government? Although they were a small party, the Nazis were unified in their mission; to destabilise and overthrow the government and replace it with themselves.

People are smart. Once they learn how to juggle a system it all comes together. I think that at this time on planet earth, the luckiest people are the Iraqis. So much opportunity, so much confusion, so much moneyall flipping around in a market just ready to explode! Televisions, taxis, discos, factorys, tourism, oil with modern infastructure. It is so exciting and limitless. And so many novices it just boggles the mind. A place for an entreprenuer for sure! With fifty grand you could start a newpaper industry country wide, a trucking company, a cell phone system. Like what is the downside here? That Iraqis are being hard pressed? Day to day I wonder how many less Iraqis are not being swept off the streets to dungeons unknown? Over the course of the US occupation so far I imagine the lives saved far outnumber those lost during major combat. Democracy forced on a prison that size, like withdrawl symtoms for an addict. Truely an exciting time to be alive!

And like the US troops of today, they deserved a visit from Hillary. To tell them that yes, they are brave, but America questions why they are there. This evening my ten year old daughter showed me a drawing she had made. I didn't bother looking at it, simply said "It's wonderful," then went back to watching Oprah and said out of the side of my mouth; "I don't know why you bothered to make it," Boy, that's support! Just wondering, seriously. I'm not up to snuff on WWII but know that D Day was supposed to be a surprise and all. If the Allies had've atacked somewhere else would that not mean they would have faced stiffer enemy forces? I mean, all those Generals and such were fools? How would you land a quarter million troops with no or fewer casualties?

Parody of Left Winger: (Got me on that one, have to fall back to other argument Check one: oil, WMD, Neo Colonialism) (note lack of counter argument to issue presented and fall back postition to item totally unrelated to origional position; anti war because it hurt Iraqis.)

So then, your arguments against the war in Iraq are that" and that democracy cannot be foisted on Iraqis? What are the nefarious US intentions if not to foist democracy? (Don't say oil or I'll blow you out of the water) And; if sucessful, what is wrong with having democracy foisted over dictatorship? According to your replys to my replys and reasoning, these are the only two issues that stop you from being a right wing nut flag waver machine gun tot'n idiot such as myself. Lonius, you are a warmonger at heart, wait till Craig finds out.

Maybe the government should warn people to stay away from terrorist training camps and if at all possible, not enroll in any of the programs. What the hell is going on I wonder?

Great post Hugo! I agree with you 95%. My points to argue are; While not the most important thing in existence it sure is good, any sex is when I'm having it. LOL. What I mean is that you have to be realisitc, don't try to tell me that it is not good or feels 'cheap' or crap. People are a lot smarter than they used to be and want to make them run? Pull piousness out of the back pocket. Hugo, I would say that the split between Pro Life and Choice is 40/60, just a guess as there is a big silent majority out there. You have activists on both sides. I told you earlier on, we all know that abortion is not right. To say that somebody is "Pro Abortion" makes you look like a radical and you lose a group that may have not worked with you on banning abortions, but, may have worked with you on other fronts. I know you are a rational person with a fine logical mind who rightfully believes in your argument. You must remember who you are aguing with though. Kids require a different approach than young adults. Young adults require a different approach than those in their thirties and those who are currently 'Pro Murder' LOL whom you would like to convert and pass on your idealology need yet another. A blanket speech doesn't serve any of them, that I think is one big failure of the Pro Life crowd. I am glad you understood what I was trying to say about money being an issue. That is a big tool that can be utilised. You also corrected me on a couple of facts with adoption. I, along with everybody would like to see this as a thing of the past however, I believe in freedom strongly. An adult, however messed up, is still a proven being to me. A fetus is not. I'm pretty normal and many think like me. I figure that the best way to handle this for you and your cohorts is to remember that. Keep saying 'baby' instead of 'fetus' by all means but remember that to most, it is what I said. I think that to persue a total ban on abortion is a realistic ideal. It, however is not a reality to attempt to enforce in order to make it a reality. (have another Krusty) What I'm trying to say is that working with a variety of tools other than name calling, shaming, shocking, blaming and guilt tripping the real tools that can be used are; money enticement, REAL support, education, community programs like pools, food banks, shelters, accoutable welfare, job placement and so on. Basicly the same ideals that all people want, they add up to responsible and a realisation of self worth. Both are valuable tools in battling sexual promiscuity. The other things you hit on were second and third trimester abortions. Great, fight the battles you can win. Using all tools you might reach critical mass someday and make abortion a rarity, then it would be a social sin and less likely to occur. Still being available and legal it would pacify freedom lovers such as myself and you would find that the opposition would melt.

Craig Craig, they will tap each segment of society in turn to give them something for a vote. Dope smokers and queers are the latest. Soon they will move onto the prison population and do like Davis did in California giving illeagals drivers licenses that in turn allow them to vote. Didn't you once refer to Canada as "California North?"

The Dems biggest hope is Dean but his views on the war will drag them down. Bush is a shoe in with the war and economy, anybody with sense will sit it out so I agree, Hillary is not going to run. She'll spend the next four years building alliances and the next year forging some good parnerships touting her 'All American Unpartisan Ways.'

Danial, have to ask; what do you not understand about this quote? I explain it because you didn't get it and you say; Danial, this is normal logic. You know, 'decision by indecision' and all. You know, stuff you learned in philosophy class taught by a goateed leftist prof. I take it that you must know, and this is merely an unproductive, immature dig such as the language slur by Arnold you also posted, nobody is that stupid on this forum. OK Craig, don't butt in with the obvious.