KrustyKidd

The last you heard? Check out the Hamas Charter if you're not too busy slobbering over anti Jew sites. A quick quote from the Charter on negotiations; Incredible Dub. You are so bigoted towards Jews that you have no idea of what Hamas is all about. I'm dumbfounded by your ignorance towards the whole issue. By the way, any luck finding one of those lies I put forth here?

What report? If it was prior to you calling me a liar then I will happily address it upon proof of my lies or an apology. If after, you have a lot of nerve to even attempt to be taken seriously after slandering a person who simply asked you for some links.

Whatever. Here is the official declaration of Israeli Independence; Seems like they accepted it to me. Then again, I'm just a liar right?

No sense in even discussing anything with you as when you cannot pony up with proof, instead of saying you have none or, using logic to pontificate why there is none you attack the poster. In this case calling me an extremist and a liar for askng you to provide some peace orientated Palestinian web sites. IOWs, no sense discussing anything with you as you are incapable of anything other than your own closed minded viewpoint. Proof being the constant barrage of anti Israel hubris without one shred of condemnation of Hamas.

I can't take anybody who slanders another poster seriously so, until you come up with these lies, you are not worth debating. I asked you to show us some peace orientated Palestinian sites and instead, you slandered me. Like it's not my fault there are none so why didn't you just say that there were none instead of engaging in slander?

Save us all the trouble Dub and just call all who disagree with you liars. That way we don't have to go to any of your silly links.

Why is it they were within those same partition borders from November 1947 to May 15 1948? Seems like they accepted it to me. Until of course, they were attacked.

Why bother to respond to this drivel Dub? You'll only call us liars without a shred of proof when you get kerfuffled by common sense.

Show the lies Dub. You called me a liar and now prove it by showing us all what they were.

Cut the crap Dub, you said; Dub Show the board the lies I have put forth.

Unless you are an extremist, you don't have to look DOP. I just couldn't look. Some poor devil was probably being kept in a cold cell with a caterpillar or worse, being ask questions harshly.

My selective view on the UN? You were the one who brought up the falsehood of Israel not adhering to 181 when in fact, it was the Palestinians who did not and never even entertained the idea, even going so far as to attempt to kill every last Jew be it man woman or child. You proudly provided a list of Israeli sites that have peace as their centerpiece and, were then asked to produce the same with Palestinians who believe the same and came up empty handed. Yes, crickets is about all the morons who simply expouse hate towards Israel have when asked to provide any semblance of willingness to live in peace with Israel. An extremist? Tell me Dub, have I ever said anything good about Israel? Have I? I You hate it don't you? I never have. I just don't take your one sided hatred and agree. This to you is an extremist for crying out loud! So, now that you have personally insulted me by saying I have lied, back it up or be known as a slanderer. Where have I lied Dub?

Yep. No Palestinian peace sites available. Just as I thought. Crickets.

That's pretty weak in light of the fact that; The elected government of Gaza has the destruction of Israel and subsequent slaughter of it's people as it's cornerstone policy; They deliberately kill Israeli women and children rather than attack military targets rather than accidentally harm women and children who are being used as human shields as part of the Hamas military strategy; Hamas does not wish to make a settlement on Israeli land, they wish to kill every Jew and take ALL of the land, and; Celebrate those who die while killing Israeli women and children,even elevating them to the status of heroes. So, if Palestinians wish peace, where is the peaceful web sites espousing cooperation, spirit of negotiation, even some culpability (as they have yet to say they are sorry about not accepting Resolution 181 and instead, attempting to exterminate every last Jew) or, just saying the past is the past and let's move on, forgiving the sins of Israel and trying to work on i? Where Dub? You have no problem finding Israeli sites so let's see the peace initiatives from the Palestinian side. Crickets.

Going to say the same thing as I said in 2000; When it's this close, you can be pretty much sure that half the people support each candidate and the other half oppose so, other than recount until hell freezes over, just flip a coin cause it really doesn't matter.

There was evidence - the 2002 NIE. And now, could you present the actual lies please?

I actually looked and could not find. I did find this interesting essay though; Where are the Palestinian peace activists?

And don't forget, they had right on their side as they were the ones who had adhered to Resolution 181 while the Arabs did not.

Yes, it would have been far better off with a Taraki like government installed courtesy of the Soviet Union. More freedom, more smiles.

Israel lived within the borders prescribed by 181 until attacked by six Arab countries who didn't even give Resolution 181 a second thought, bent on killing every last one of them (women and children included). With the immediate death of their civilization and people at stake, they fought back, and continue to hold that ground until there is a serious government in place with a serious intent to make peace with them. I doubt that any resolution they have violated compares remotely to having six nations on your doorstep with the self described intent of exterminating you and your people.

I hope I get rich before I get sick so i can go to the states like Cretien did when he got sick. Seriously, this system is bullshit.

Hang ten Daddy O! Bush lied, people died. Might work for your mindless morons but in the real world, you have to actually produce a systematic regime of lies rather than mistakes based on shitty intel. Got one?

Dub They did in 1947 to 1948. March 14 was when the Arabs attacked. Six nations to be exact, all intent on killing every last Jew. At that time, Palestinians were free to live alongside the Jews on their portion of the land that was voted and accepted by the UN. They chose not to and, instead, continued, to this day to make war or, at the very least, to not stop those who make war on Israel. In fact, they even have convinced mindless western morons to hate Jews and Israel as well as to convolute history. Amazing that some idiots can just gloss over history to form a bigoted opinion and then from that, form an actual history to attempt to catapult their hatred to others.

Must be a slow news week. This has been common knowledge for over a year and a half.

How may arrests for violence against Israelis occurred in that time? Are the perps still in jail? I said it would take a decade of a proven track record, not a succession of flash in the pan unstable Mafia like gangs ruling for weeks at a time. Dub Balanced? I am. I understand that Israel has lots to lose and little to gain at this point by making peace and if they do anything, it's a risk. Hence, better to do nothing until something is a proven entity. As for failing to acknowledge, yes I do. I think it's wrong however, Israel is a democracy and parties have to pander to various movements when there is no reason not to. If the Palestinians wish to be part of this process then they might consider unifying rather than having 'Al Capone' style shoot outs in their own streets and killing more of their own in the process than Israel ever did. Edited to add: Dub Justice is that six nations would have accepted Res 181 and welcomed Israel into the world. Four of them still do not. And you expect fairness? Four Arab nations still have the destruction of Israel on their 'to do' list behind mowing the lawn and fixing that creaking door and you speak of fairness and justice? Nobody in Israel has called for the extermination of Palestinians as they seem to do a pretty good job of it themselves. You want justice? Start telling us all what Palestinians are dong wrong and I'll be more than happy to tell you what I think Israel is other than making settlements on land that they know will never be occupied by Palestinians as long as they continue on this path The way you go on post after post on thread after thread there has not been one single objective point you've made hence, I just counter rather than discuss. Here, I'll give you your version of discussion: Israel is a bunch of shitheads. Palestinians are just ducky. DISCUSS.