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(1) I don't think the evidence available establishes that Arab governments would be actively persecuting Jews. (2) The need for Jewish people to have a state where they could protect themselves from persecution does not in itself create a right to take or keep that state from someone else. It would have been much simpler if the Jewish people had been offered territory that did not involve the forcible assertion of the state over the existing inhabitant's objections. But history took a different turn, and Israel is where it is. That fact does not absolve of the need to act ethically toward the injured parties to the extent possible. It does not justify continued occupation and machinations toward further annexation.

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Can you say 'begs the question', kiddies?

Neither massive bombings nor an inavsion is needed. Simply bombing the 20 or so sites associated with the enterprise should be enough to put them out of business for 20 or so years. I don't think that's realistic. Even assuming you could find all the sites and bomb them effectively it would take a massive degradation of infrastructure to prevent them from having it all rolling again in under 5 years.

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Personally, I fully believe Iran's government would like to be a nuclear armed state. I also believe there is nothing 'the west' is willing to offer them that is likely to dissuade them from that objective. Furthermore, I see little chance of preventing them from eventually acheiving nuclear capabilities, short of bombing on a massive scale or a military invasion. Finally, I think that militarily confronting Iran would be a much, much, bigger challenge than Iraq was. It's a dicey situation. To bad we've had an incompetent administration to deal with this hazard for 6 years.

Rue, Rue, Rue. Simply saying that does not make it so. It is a fact, the Palestinian people are under military occupation by Israel an no denial on your part of this plain fact can serve to prove you are anywhere near impartial on this topic. In fact, it is apparent over many posts that your views on this subject are not merely factually unfounded, and ethically inexplicable, they are also intransigent. What utter crap! Both sides may FEEL under threat, but only one side is militarily occupying the other. It is NOT ignored. It is simply logically irrelevant to the point being made. YES, some Jews fled Arab persecution. They should be compensated. NEXT! This root cause? Does it explain the anti jewish riots decades before the birth of Israel? Does it explain the state sponsored persecution of jews before the Birth? If it doesn't, it ain't the root cause.......you want to know what the root cause is....have a drunken chat with Mel Gibson I don't think quibbling with myata's term 'root cause' detracts from the main point: the way the state of Israel was created and circumstances arising from that are at the core of any resolution of the middle-east conflict.

Clinton was absolutely right, and it's about time someone stood up to the abusive falsehoods continually propagated on that public menace, the Faux News Cabal.

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What is relevant in this issue is the rules of modern international law currently prevailing. The political conditions of pre-modern ethnic clusters, city-states, empires, or petty potentates are of no concern. In terms of modern international law, the period of policital relevance begins with the League of Nations Mandate held by the British. At this point the British held international authority for the region, but were not successors of any prior state. Any and all prior sovereignties in the region were extinguished. Inaresting......so what about all dem arabs and their ottoman era land deeds? Seemingly they were carried over into the British Mandate, then made 'legally' defunct by the creation of Israel, unless Israel too acknowledged them, which arguably they did.

A long post about detailed immigration policy removed -- too bad MLW admin doesn't care about quality, or treating posters with respect.

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