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But I thought you would be a proponent of democracy. If the majority of people percieve Israel's conduct as wrong, is that not a democratic expression of opinion? As far as I can see the only democraccy in the whole region is Israel. And as such they have a natural mechanism to determine if what they are doing is supported by the public. If public opinion turns against the war against Hezbollah the Israeli government may rethink its tactics. Last time I checked, Israel represented a very small proportion of the world population, so the principle of democracy does not lend support to making Israeli opinion the final arbiter of right and wrong.

Or maybe they just share the same network, perhaps?

War crimes all. Tough ... I don't have a problem with holding a society collectively responsible in certain cases - including this one. Amazing ... are you in general full support of crimes against humanity? Or is it just crimes against people you consider sub-human?

In fact, yes, it is beside THIS point. Though I'm quite surprised to see you recognize that.

I suppose you judge Bush then by the same criteria when he cozies up with the autocrats of Saudi Arabia and other such paragons of virtue?

James Bredin is 167 years old.

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But I thought you would be a proponent of democracy. If the majority of people percieve Israel's conduct as wrong, is that not a democratic expression of opinion?

Sounds like you've been listening to Israeli/Bush propaganda a bit too much. Based on the actual text of UN resolutions, what specifically do you see as anti-semitic, or unreasonable? ... A point by point analyses of resolutions is not really necessary. ... Evasion. What's the matter, caught in your web of bullshit with no way out? If you can't point out, based on the content of the resolutions that the resolutions are biased, then you have no business saying that they are. Your comments are mere ranting -- utter tripe. (And tedious.)

Should we report you then, for post #288 above, or just chalk you up as a blatant hypocrite?

I don't know what species of rank idiocy could prevent you from perceiving the relevant content in the article I refered you to, but out of generosity, I will point out the following passages: I guess you think people should be 'afraid' to express certain things ... sort of like Stalin thought. But anyway, I have no intention of "associating" myself with these claims ... I merely draw your attention to them since you have pleaded repeatedly to be so informed. Were your pleas in fact lies? War to eliminate Israel is not necessarily indicative of anti-Jewishness. Palestinians who perceive their lands and self-determination as having been shorn from them could quite obviously fight against that irrespective of the religion of the people who aggrieved them. However, the stated desire (of whoever it is you quoted) to eliminate Jews of course is indicative of an anti-jewish prejudice. (P.S. I'm sorry, but I don't grasp why you appear to object to the word 'prejudice'.) Yes ... so? What genuine grievances? No, Argus, I will not indulge you in another tail-chasing excursion. You have your answers available to you for this. Read. I wanted you to do some research, of course. Cussedness then.

I've given you enough info to begin your own research, if you care about the truth. No, sorry, it doesn't work that way. You don't get to cite a long article listing all sorts of differing topics related to Lebanon's relationship with Isreal, its internal religious political arguments and history, and say that's what contains this "humanitarian injustices reaped by Israel" that the terrorist group Hezbollah is trying to right - by murdering innocent people. I'm sorry, but your reply seems very garbled. The article I refered you to included reference to some of the issues Hezbollah cites as it's beefs with Israel, and therefore answers your question. If you want a full survey of the question, you can do your own research. You can imply whatever you like, but that does not make it so. I doubt your 'help' will be either factual, or helpful. ... on perusal, my doubts have been verified. I am well aware that Hezbollah is populated by religious fanatics, and many of them espouse anti-jewish prejudice. But these deficiencies of character don't change exogenous facts about genuine beefs they also have with Israel. That is to say, just because Nasrallah is a fanatic who wants to drive Israel into the sea does not mean that Israel has done nothing to earn Hezbollah's enmity. This conflict is a very complicated one and purporting to simplify it by attempting to completely ignore genuine grievances won't help solve it. (BTW, not only did you not provide a link for your quotes, you didn't even provide any citation for them. Since you probably lack the imagination to make them up, was this an oversight, or simple cussedness?)

Sounds like you've been listening to Israeli/Bush propaganda a bit too much. Based on the actual text of UN resolutions, what specifically do you see as anti-semitic, or unreasonable?

Canada should absolutely NOT send troops to the middle east.

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It seems that generally, when Israel does things of that kind, people like Bush, Blair, and Likud all proclaim Israel's innocence.

The idea of an international stabilization force in the middle east could be a good one, if .... First, it's mission and rules of engagement would need to be clear and sensible. It is not sensible to put more defenceless troops in front of IDF weapons, and it is not sensible to expect the force to act as Israel's proxy army against militant groups. If a force is to go into the middle east, it's mandate must be to act impartially in the dispute. Furthermore, any international force going into the middle east should not be confined to enforcing UN resolution 1559 while other resolutions (e.g. 242) languish unaddressed. Not only would it be a bizarre incongruity to enforce one and not another, it would also not comply with Condi's stated desire for a comprehensive solution to the problems. Background... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_U...l_and_Palestine

I've given you enough info to begin your own research, if you care about the truth. Yes, it's an old article ... it's a long-standing grievance.

For example... http://www.merip.org/mero/mero052901.html