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How old are you by the way, mentally speaking? The moon is round, soccer ball is round so moon has to be a soccer ball, right? I may be wrong about the kindergarten; they already know the difference on average. Fixed for ya. Sure, have a vague idea. Just look at the logical prowess above. What problems could it not tackle?

No no no, can "vote" doesn't cut it silly (but how else? this is only an objective assessment please don't take personally). A functional multi-party system means: real; and accurate representation of diverse interests in the society and nothing less. Don't see the difference yet? So please leave this style of (clueless) lecturing for your political kindergarten. In Russia they "can vote"; and in China, Vietnam etc they do. Do you need the full list of "can vote" places? Is it the same as modern, functional, dynamic first world democracies? In the kindergarten, they know.

This is an interesting one. In the century up to now, I counted 21 Liberal governments versus eight or nine Conservative. Does this count like many Conservative governments, to be overly concerned? Then what is it, the concern based on? - factual statistics that PR results in fewer conservative governments - just repeating that someone said somewhere some time - a thinly disguised excuse for avoiding necessary change

That happened? Happen to recall those "us"? I forgot. But of course we can talk about issues like fair representation of people's views and interests; of real modern parliamentary multi-party political system; of responsibility and accountability as daily routine rather than purely abstract notion; none of that is about just bean allocation.

Are you totally lost Michael? Can you see the word there, what does it mean? Who gets to decide what it means for H.-sake? This is as fine illustration as one can find of the perpetual "Canadian and democracy" parable. Oh get it, so its like another word for the good (Colonial) government, right?

The perpetual Canadian conundrum.. abandon hope ye who enters here. It only takes one act of intelligence and will to fix it but nah.. why? It worked at the time of Adam, see.

"Democracy" is only a word. Anyone can say or write it, Putin and Xi included, Un too if only he bothered. Word in itself doesn't mean and worth much; it's only a collection of soundwaves or pixels. What is behind the word? How is the democracy implemented in reality? These answers make all the difference. If we had many real, parliamentary parties competing fairly where voters decide who wins, we would have to measure their performance by objective, comparable criteria. We could not throw away votes arbitrarily just because that was done in the times of Adam. That makes no sense today. No: we don't have real multi-party democracy here. Some countries decided to keep the system of representatives. There aren't many among modern first world democracies, but there are a few mixed systems. No, we don't have that; we have "employees" by their own admission and on paper. So we don't have either parliamentary or representative democracy. What we have here is imitation democracy, with two default political governance corporations which are guaranteed to swap places at the helm for perpetuity. It suits them well and they have no interest in any essential change. I don't know how many times I heard the stupid phrase (whose?) "parties face accountability at the time of election". How many times did I wonder, is anyone awake here to translate it into common English? "We have an appearance of accountability for a few weeks every five years. In all other times, we have free rein and open season. No you can't do anything about it, so better just enjoy cute beaver tales" Q.E.D. Wow wow wow, some beautiful discoveries here... so what's preventing the Cons to pledge to implement PR now, with NDP and Greens on board should be a no-brainer. I'll even vote for that. Something feels tight.. the perpetual thong to the trough maybe?

Depending on what is considered "an option". You sure can pick the 3rd, 15th or 37th "party" on the list. Will it change anything in the reality? Your guess.

Was determined the best country in OECD for Covid response. Some has to give ?

No they are not. They have barely a purely theoretical chance of forming a government but in practice it never happened to the best of my knowledge. I.e., picture book decorative "parties". The whole idea is senseless closing on absurd. If parties are in essence equal until the voters decide, one has no logical reasons to not count their objective results - which is, the votes given to them. So, none of what we have here are parliamentary parties in the objective true sense; only some electoral show; mumbo-jumbo-bum look, you won!

It doesn't even matter. Just look.

The take is, vote for the Libs then. They'll be the first to bring visible change here; even if down but not like there are options. Look the blue twin can promise even do maybe-probably about anything but it'll be only for a term or two and then, back to the party! Hello my dears long time not really as countries go. Need to catch up on reduced bureaucratic capacity; and the immigration of course; how's the debt been doing by the way. And back again down the slide, how are you doing, no vertigo yet?

It politics it pays to play dumb when asked a clear question. In dumb politics, Canadian too obviously, it is considered an essential, even key skill (as seen in its apex performance, "The Circus Period" series). A show of "government accountability" for little children not yet grown enough to have a real democracy, in about two centuries. It doesn't mean of course that the expert themselves are that. Maybe. Like, how would you know?

Such a heartwarming song, straight from the color picture book. Look we're so fuzzy and cute.. but no, can have only us, only adults allowed to go THERE. That's a no but you can always have us, look.

Gotcha. Knock knock, the red door: no change. Any chance with the blue one? Nah thanks. "If you want to see change ta-ta-da!" straight from the coloring picture book. Sounds sane, at least to some of us. The doctor knows.

I'll try to translate this, OK? Not sane. Insane. But necessary. So forget it and move on. The election"" is coming! Correct? That looks exactly what sane people do, right?

So we have one head that wanted to be seen as supporting it, but when given the opportunity to make it happen, not really. And the other one, that is just happy as the things are. Change is not possible. 100% success no matter how you "vote". Q.E.D.

You'd happen to have information on the previous PC promises on the subject? Would appreciate it! As to the Libs they lied and so, will lie whatever promised. And those were the only options physically possible. I wouldn't be surprised in the least though. It's very smug and comfy at the trough knowing that you cannot be challenged ever; and at some point in the natural evolution, that can be all that matters.

Of course, a strong leader, still out of checks and controls, but of the right kind, that's important. They will figure it all out for us and fix everything with a single word (some already showed how it's done but the hope lives forever - in the DNA that is). Just couldn't figure this one out... too bad.

So nobody in the trough duet will be interested in the meaningful change. It's been working great for them as it is, just perfectly made to avoid and prevent any real change, and no questions or change needed but thanks. That's all one needs to know about the election prospects. In a dynamic and volatile world? Keep hoping for the best while the tracks are pointing to Mexico North and the train is well on the way there.

Be impressed by the span of the logical connection here! With authoritarian governments out of any reasonable checks and controls as just observed live for two years, complete with emergencies invocation for a flu-like epidemic only because they can, no but still be best system in the world and any change from here will sure lead to a terrible disaster just because we say so. In the tunnel of alternate reality, everything makes sense... till the hard stop.

Besides, certainly there's a way for a proportional system to work in diverse, geographically and culturally spread communities. This is nothing new in Europe and many solutions exist in Belguim, Bosnia and probably other places. For example, one can define areas with separate representations, urban Ontario, Ontario North, Rural Ontario. Every one can have fair representation that can be negotiated and we would be voting for real issues and interests, with real and continuous control over the governments via minority parties. It would modernize political system, make it contemporary, transparent, responsive and efficient. So it's only a matter of thought and will. No, there are no other reasons. Something made in the times of Adam can be perfect for the eternity only in the rarest lottery. There are only a few species of this kind out of uncounted millions. I wouldn't count on it. Much more likely, nobody cared to think. Why bother? Such a can of worms.

That direction of thought will take you far indeed. China, North Korea and Russia all have a form of what they call a democracy, with some, arbitrarily defined "participation". But no though. Something cold doesn't make an ice cream, as anything with "part" and "cipation" it won't make a functional, modern democracy. I'll vote for who I want from the options I understand and accept, not some mumbo-jumbo ritual. A smart two year old can figure that out by the way, according to studies. There's no obligation to accept the best out of the worst, and just too bad / sad that you're struggling to get it.

Except one isn't obliged to participate in a funny game.. in a democracy.

How can you tell? Doctor Charles Smith fiasco Psychiatric hospital abuse Multiple wrongful convictions with multimillion compensations, public paying to itself from one pocket to the other. They screw up royally you pay a lot how's that a bad deal? And now, Covid of course. Could all of that have happened with a competent and independent, judiciary? What if the great Canadian legal system is only another beaver tale? Like, how do you know? It's OK give it another decade... or two. The greatest system in the world will catch up, eventually.