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Hah! I am a stain not a saint, just move the t in the word.. All kidding aside I love the guy's philosophy just not the idiot old men who proceeded him and rewrote it to suit their own idiot political needs. I just find most religions get taken over by men who don't wash or shave and are always angry about something and usually have a problem with orgasms. I think a Saint should look like Messlia Auf Der Maur the bass guitarist. Bonny Raitt would work. Either that or Lauryn Hill but with dreadlocks.

Uh yah I am. Lol. But I wa snot talking about this particular person. Just what fuels SOME bigoted people in general. I also classify myself as mentally ill. Not too worry though. I keep myself locked up in a padded place. And Leafless Americangal was responding to my generalities which are not directed at any one person. My attitude on people who like to define people by stereotypes is to try explain why they feel the need to. I am the first to admit and concede behaviour theories are only that theories. I have one for why I like Americanwoman. She would not burn a cross on my lawn and knows what the word putz means. You gentiles can be o.k. You just need to stop using mayonaisse amduse mustard and more rye and darkbreads and stop with the butter and ham white bread sandwitches. That is disgusting. Its as bad as those hams with the hair nets.

Right AT. I mean Guyser I know it brings up this issue as to whether the press should sit on news stories or not and that is a complex freedom of speech/info issue. Appreciate that. Just wish there was a way not to sensationalize this for the wrong reasons and endanger soldiers on the front line. Was it too much to ask the press to hold off until he returned?

True Drudge did not break the story G. Say I thought there was a deal to hold off until April when he returned and someone broke that deal?

Yah. But hell no I would never claim its true or that it is the gospel or the truth and the only way, etc. I mean what the hell do I know. for me this belief in God is sort of like an obsessive compulsive twitch. I have always had it. I mean it could be simply a chemical imbalance or nervous anxiety expressing itself. Point is I always had this idea God is sort of like this big ball of energy and it spit out thousands of sparks and each one flies its own flight fueled by free choice. These little sparks are all Gods who create their own little sparks and so on and so on. The point? All these particles experience meaning through contrasting opposites and trying to synethesize the extremes. Why? I think this aplha and omega behind it all didn't have to do anything but decided to spit out parts of itself to set in motion an infinite journey of these continuing to multiply and fragment particles to experience. I mean it did not have to. But I think it wanted to experience through these particles. I think it feels everything each particle feels but would never interfere with them because to do so would extinguish them. So of course its a human theory-it projects human concepts. I don't claim to know. Its just something I always felt. Its totally irrational. I just feeling something behind all the chaos. Its like I am not supposed to understand it or its purpose but just feel its always just behind all that noise and chaos smiling. I just came to that conclusion staring at intricate patterns. Maybe I projected form into the chaos I was staring at but I have experienced fractal theory-looking at what appears sheer and absolute chaos and seeing something emerge then disappear then come back in another form, then disappear again like inhales and exhales. So no I don't see any angels or devils or a guy with a white beard or burning bushes (still think that was a reference to venereal disease) or hear any booming voices in my head or shit like that. Sometimes I visualize God as Jane Fonda in her young days or Diana Rigg in her young days and see them in latex and sliding down a pole but then I realize its me confusing them with Batgirl. Since any of us can create a vision of God mine is Halle Berry, Jennifer Lopez and Angie Harmon switching from one to the other and when I really get righteous Kate Blanchett or Perdita Felicien. Have no idea why Perdita but I think God could look like her. She has amazing hamstrings.

So why do those guys in the white pajamas and funny pointed hats always refer to themselves as Christians and burn crosses? You telling me they are Muslim? Lol. The point is-show me a religion I cam show you someone in it who is using it to justify; 1-sexually molesting someone 2-beating someone 3-abusing women 4-engaging in war, violence, terrorist acts 5-arson 6-rallies to burn things and wear funny costumes 7-engaging in strange dancing 8-making funny noises, vomiting pea soup and swearing and rotating wierdly 9-wearing tight collars that make them unable to breath 10-not shaving and washing 11-wearing fur hats in the heat or other inappropriate clothing.

Topaz we have had strong debates on opposite sides but appreciate your integrity on this line of posts. Its much appreciated by me when I see you and others respond as you have on the holocaust issue. I sory of expect it from Don on the Porch or American Women or White Doors but I am genuinely appreciative to see it from you not simply because you are saying what I want you to say-but because you have the integrity to differentiate certain political arguements as to other issues from this one and realize they are not the same. As for you Buffy, your approach to Zionism is so dag nabbed rigid. I do not doubt for one second in your thought processes you see zero relationship to you between what you think is your dispute against Zionism and such people who deny the holocaust but read back your last post. I think you intentionally linked them by suggesting Zionism generates anti-semitism. Zionism doesn't generate anti-semitism-anti-semites generate anti-semitism because they can not understand that Zionism is nothing more then the collective sufferage of Jews-it necessarily is a concept of Jews defining themselves as a nationality and that is why anti-semites attack all Jews when they wish to engage in anti-Israeli bashing and why you still just can't get it-the desire of Jews for sufferage-to express themselves as a nation is no different then what Christians or Muslims or many other religions have done with their own-and as long as you only criticize it when jews do it or want it/but do not use the exact same standard to criticize all other religions-you do select Jews for discriminatory standards of treatment and that is a type of anti-semitism. To be consistent Buffy, for your arguement not to be singling out Jews for a double standard, your arguement would have to conclude NO STATE OF ANY KIND SHOULD BE BASED ON RELIGIOUS CONCEPTS BEING blended with the state identity. I have yet to see you state all Muslim states that engage in Sharia Law are equally as incorrect as Jews who believe in the State of Israel. I have yet to see you criticize any other religious state the same way you do Israel. I expect it from people with anti-semitic agendas. From someone like you who genuinely believes there is right or wrong and good and bad guys, I expect more.

Topaz we have had strong debates on opposite sides but appreciate your integrity on this line of posts. Its much appreciated by me when I see you and others respond as you have on the holocaust issue. I sory of expect it from Don on the Porch or American Women or White Doors but I am genuinely appreciative to see it from you not simply because you are saying what I want you to say-but because you have the integrity to differentiate certain political arguements as to other issues from this one and realize they are not the same. As for you Buffy, your approach to Zionism is so dag nabbed rigid. I do not doubt for one second in your thought processes you see zero relationship to you between what you think is your dispute against Zionism and such people who deny the holocaust but read back your last post. I think you intentionally linked them by suggesting Zionism generates anti-semitism. Zionism doesn't generate anti-semitism-anti-semites generate anti-semitism because they can not understand that Zionism is nothing more then the collective sufferage of Jews-it necessarily is a concept of Jews defining themselves as a nationality and that is why anti-semites attack all Jews when they wish to engage in anti-Israeli bashing and why you still just can't get it-the desire of Jews for sufferage-to express themselves as a nation is no different then what Christians or Muslims or many other religions have done with their own-and as long as you only criticize it when jews do it or want it/but do not use the exact same standard to criticize all other religions-you do select Jews for discriminatory standards of treatment and that is a type of anti-semitism. To be consistent Buffy, for your arguement not to be singling out Jews for a double standard, your arguement would have to conclude NO STATE OF ANY KIND SHOULD BE BASED ON RELIGIOUS CONCEPTS BEING blended with the state identity. I have yet to see you state all Muslim states that engage in Sharia Law are equally as incorrect as Jews who believe in the State of Israel. I have yet to see you criticize any other religious state the same way you do Israel. I expect it from people with anti-semitic agendas. From someone like you who genuinely believes there is right or wrong and good and bad guys, I expect more.

The problem is the media is now fragmented. Much of the media like the Drudge report, is in fact not the journalist media but the inter-net media, completely unregulated and ungoverned by any rules of morality or ethics and thus anything will be reported for any reason-there are now no limits. So once again someone's safety is compromised for what amounts to be an idiotic gossip story one step up from a story as to who Paris Hilton has given herpes to. What bothers me is how the same people that wet their pants over pictures of Harry where were they all with every other soldier? They could care less unless that soldier is some sort of celebrity for them to gawk at. He's a damn soldier not some GI Joe doll for f..ck's sake. I regret we civilians are this f..cking shallow and can't respect the sanctity of war and reduce it to some Entertainment Tonight gossip tabloid story while the vast majority of you do what you do and no one gives a sh..t. Whoever took all those pictures of him made a mockery of all soldiers. Either treat them all the same and cover them all the same way or shut the f..ck up and let them do their job and stop endangering them. You are no sound bite to me B. You are flesh and blood putting your damn life on the line. all this bullshit glorification of celebrity status misses the point-that all your lives are equally as precious and meaningful and this is not some sort of fun and games assignment where you or anyone else is playing soldier and there is nothing glamorous about your swet and blood and the best thing we can all do is show restraint out of respect to you and any other who puts his life on the line.

Of course you would say that-you were already classified in the past on one of Keng's lists of "you people" that are ruining this country. "You people" always make comments like that. They should deport you to the Republic of Uwepeoplia before you procreate and cause more "you people" to take over Canada with "you people" values. The Messiah never sleeps.

"You people" Oh look a new category to add to his list.

Good grief what are people drinking in their water today. August claims Canada is poor, now you claim we live in a police state. Yegads. Are people this sheltered? Are they this oblivious to what goes on in other parts of the world? Police state? I again repeat only someone completely oblivious as to the laws of his own country and the privileges he takes for granted could make such a comment.

Clearly your evaluation methods and analysis of what constitutes "poor" is flawed if not completely defective. To start with it appears to rely on your selective subjective observations of selected areas of the above. Id oubt very much you travelled to the inner city slums in any of the above places. More to the point only someone living in a first world country taking his standard of life for granted would write such a thing. Poor you say? Right tell that to people in the 3rd and 4th world. Tell that to aboriginal Canadians on certain reservations who live far lower a standard then you clearly know of. Poor? When was the last time you were in Haiti, India, Bangladesh, Darfur, parts of East and West Africa, Indonesia, the Philippines, Nepal, on and on. Poor? Man oh man. get a grip.

I have had huge debates with Leafless and can't stand much of what he says. But he is not a coward. He says exactly what he thinks and does not couch his words. People like Leafless do not throw bricks and then hide they say it directly to your face. I may not like a thing Leafless states but I know he is no coward. Now as for the person who started this post, it also does not suprise me he has vanished. Forums because they are anonymous may unintentionally encourage brick throwing because anyone can come throw and run and then giggle as they watch others react. Passive agressive behaviour is an interesting phenomena. It can create many manifestations where someone watches the reaction they create. From what I have read, its almost always enacted by someone feeling powerless and afraid to reveal themselves for fear they will be rejected or beaten or ridiculed. In the form of arson its usually associated with repressed sexual desire. It can start out as voyeurism and stalking and then what causes the person to go the next step and not just watch but be seen no one knows for sure. Something happens. Probably an escalation in the compulsion driving them which is not being fulfilled and needs to be relieved before it overwhelms the person or a desire to be caught and therefore helped. Often its associated with people who are unemployed or who feel underappreciated or underused or who feel hard done by and want to lash out but feel they can't.

It shouldn't suprise you at all. Lol. The one thing that is consistent is their transparency.

I agree with you 100%. Let's face it Obama is the better visual player and orator. He has one of JFK's speechwiters. His candence when he speaks is based on carefully studying the tones of JFK and Martin Luther King. It is not an accident he speaks like a gospel preacher. If you turn the sound off and watch the physical and non verbal gestures of McCain, Obama and Hilary it becomes very evident what you said-precisely what you said. If it has to be summarized in one word for her it would be "severe". Severe appearances do not strike a cord with Americans. Its not an accident most of their politicians who do well do not speak or appear severe. Obama as a small little boy head and a skinny feminine body so as much as he has the JFK-Martin Luther King tone of delivery down pat, he physically does not scare even if his words can be intense. The grand-father optics of McCain also look. He can be quite severe, in fact no different then Hilary, but he looks like everyone's grandfather or the classic football coach and America likes both. No one feels threatened if their grand-dad or the coach is gruff because they know they are also nice when we do well. Hilary has some bad optics; bulging eyes, wrinkled sucked in lips, rolling eyes, clencehd fists, narrowed eye brows, a clumsy forced heavy walk, a smile that looks forced. The candence of Obama is the preacher who sings hope but with the same up and up and up raising even higher song delibery which then breaks out in a rousing uniform chorus then slowly comes down again. With Hilary there is no loop to the sound. It stays flat, unaffected, monotone but with a tone of anger and impatience -the annoying sound of someone who feels people are not listening to her and who she does not respect anyways. Obama is very much the Oprah Winfrey book of the month. This year's trend. But unlike McCain who has no shelf life since he is already dry-Obama is perishable. His tone is not dry-its wet-it brings tears so it can shrivel out and dehydrate wherewas unlike a fruit turning into a raisin, McCain is like that peanut. He has a hard shell to crack but always constant once you get into it and taste it. Both work. One is the pea-nut at the ball game we eat, the other the apple we all learned to eat but apples have to stay crisp and can't get soggy. No one has such expectations with peanuts. Hilary is boiled mashed potatoes. she's cafeteria food plopped on a plate and served on a tray. Oh we all know it. It always sounds like "Glop". Its coems downheavy and even if it looks fluffy just like her body. To me Hilary was in trouble when I saw her female supporters physically leaning away from her particularly when she touched them or spoke with them close. Not a good sign. If a woman does not allow another woman to get close to her and touch her-that is not good. I could see having a beer with McCain and talking sports or having him coach me. Obama is the doctor or lawyer I would want. Hilary? She is the angry nun-nurse coming in to shave me and give me an enema. There's just something about her that looks like she's gonna cause bleeding or leakage and embarassement and make sure to leave the curtain open so everyone walking by can see. I want my nurse to look like Jennifer Lopez or Halle Berry or Angie Harmon or maybe for fun Amy Winehouse provided she washed her hands first.

One of 2. We are making progress. 1-Hebrews are no more pink then you are skunk 2-so you hang around garbage dumps and you got your head stuck in a can-what you expect me to be dumb enough to remove it? 3-listen smelly one who thrashes about-don' t assume if I walk in your woods I will make noise and will give off that perfumey incense smell-you'd be suprised what the Kabal has taught us Hebrews about silence and keeping the stench of our misery masked with mud and salt-we go to the Dead Sea for that kind of wallowing 3-your assumption you are the only one who is cursed is self-indulgent teenage hormonal melodrama that of I would expect of someone penetrated by whites-got news for you we've all been f..cked 4-stop f..cking around and write a real script 5-what the f..ck is the matter with you-you really think vision comes from anger? bah-anyone can use stunts and swear words to get reaction but using words to illicit tears is an art-you are just another crow who thinks he's a song bird-you could be a McCaw-you have that tell tale nasal congestion in your chatter 7-so let me get this straight, you got a rash from stooping in poison ivy pretending to be a shape shifter and now you claim your scratching is actually a spiritual manifestation of your tribulations-sounds like the mange of self-indulgence 9-Hebrews don't have gravestones for any trickster to come and sit and shit on... but good luck searching 10-for someone who claims to know all the vegetation you seem to have no clue as to what a burning bush is let alone a wondering Jew plant 10-stop using words as a laxative- your stink is your essence -either it combusts and causes creative movement or it simply bubbles up from the swamp, gives off a poot and then dissipates-everything rots - everything gives off methane - the key is can you use it as natural gas to move someone or will you continue to just sit on a toilet giggling at your patoots 11- only a fool or a skunk boy would try make pottery out of his own feces and think someone's gonna buy it 12-lol skunk boy joker you are no wolverine don't let the fact you are related confuse you 13-so we are all bastards-how original 14-if you think a Hebrew needs to be lectured by you that Christians are simply bastards trying to pretend their father is devine give it a rest skunk boy its stale and yah some Christians realize they are bastards and Mary was not a virgin sorry to bust your methane bubble. Here you want to learn how to write, enjoy my story; The Origin of Foul Play A native a Jew and Christian were walking in the woods. " Did you hear that...sounds like someone sneaking up on us" said the Jew. "I don't believe you..I hear nothing..." said the Christian. The native began to sniff and suddenly put his hand up and signalled everyone to stop. Suddenly a wolverine appeared-well the Christian screamed out he would save the others and decoy the wolverine and ran for his life. Soon he got all hung up in the underbrush and could not move an died. The native looked at the Jew and said, " was he saving us or himself? " The Jew looked at the native and said, " You ask a good question, let me get back to you on that one after I get home and have had some time to think about it.: The wolverine continued to glare and looked quite hungry. The aboriginal said-"this is out of your league Jew-you guys come from the desert-that's the fiercest animal there is...it can take down a bear-you don't mess with it-and he climbed a tree and waited for it to leave and looked down on the Jew and said, "to bad you have so few trees in the desert otherwise you might have learned to climb one".The wolverine was left standing eye to eye with the Jew. Just as it was about to lunge the Jew said.." Um excuse me, but I can not help but notice you have been looking at me for some time....very understandable I can assure you...no doubt you probably have me mistaken for my twin brother Samuel..who is in the fur business. Please do not worry. Although I appreciate that fine coat of hair let me assure you my only interest is in kosher chickens. I'm in the poultry business. Here let me give you a sample. Best wholsesale chickens in this neck of the woods-I welcome your patronage if you have a chance to come visit us in the village-you can't miss us, right next door to the bakery of my esteemed and dear deceased friend who you see hung up on the brush. Such a shame. He was a good man. I am sure there will be a misunderstanding that arises from his death. " The aboriginal still hanging in the tree then said; " Uh yah right...you know they will blame you for his death...good luck explaining that....they still are convinced the earth belongs to them and that my people's burial grounds are their bowling alleys....good luck...". On that note the Jew simply bowed and smiled, never turning his back of course to the wolverine and slowly faded from sight. Morale of the story: always carry with you a kosher chicken-you never know when you will need one

Shut up poo head. Lol. I think that is what they are trying to avoid. Now of course if I said , "shut up you American poo head " some might confuse that with a political opinion when its still me calling you a poo head. However on that note, I admit I am a poo head.

Bang on. Guess we are both anti-anti christists which to them means we are anti-Christs but I am not anti-Christ. Never met the man. Probably would have given him a hard time with the walking on water shtik pointing to the rocks just below the surface but other then that I probably would have gotten a long just fine with him and his wife Mary M. But I wash my own feet thank you.

I think you hit the home run with the above analysis. McCain say what you want does what he thinks is right not what he thinks will pacify his enemies. Probably something to do with being tortured and refusing to be pressured. Some call that integrity, others character, others bull-headedness.

Actually that is another good point Wilbur. For cheery reading I was reading some disaster management stuff in the insurance industry and what the insurance industry is well aware of are two things; 1-in the event of a major terrorist attack to our infrastructure-we might require US military assistance; 2-specifically the example you gave-that in the event of a major earthquake exactly where you say we do not have the emergency facilities that could respond. I really suspect that is what this arrangement is about and look I don't like Harper but I think this one is about not scaring the public as to just how inoperative our own armed forces is within Canada in the event of a serious disaster. The reality is we have a huge country geographically and a tiny armed forces that couldn't possibly with its size or lack of equipment respond. To think we would not ask the US for help is dumb. In case anyone hasn't noticed the US Navy is the number one rescuer on the high seas. No one is too concerned when they save people. Its when we get into the imperialism and damn Yankee politics suddenly the Jack Laytons pipe up. No one complains if the Yanks save people. I think your point is bang on. It is just reality. If the big on happens and its possible, our borders will become immaterial and the need to rescue people with whoever is available on either side of the border will become paramount. Does anyone really believe the US wants to invade us? Why? They already control 90% of our economy. Puhleeze. All these people worried about sovereignty, you willing to give up all your American products and by Canadian? HAH. The Jack Laytons of the world who yadda yadda about America take it for granted America will always be there for them. That's why they are such big talkers. To me the sovereignty issue is all about the North not joint rescue and military operations with our closest ally who absolutely share security needs with. I will tell you something else. If some sob terror operation hid in Canada I would not pee my pants if the US military came in and took them down. I would be the first to welcome them in that effort. I appreciate soverignty is an important issue. But I think its time we understand with serious natural disasters or terrorism, there is a far greater issue at stake in those 2 specific circumstances.

American Woman, I like to think of myself as an extreme centerist someone smak dab in the middle of the eft and right of any political spectrum on most issues. Disgustingly Canadian in that regard. We Canadians are by nature moderates. We loath any extreme. Our Conservatve (right ) or Liberal (left) or NDP (labour left) will not abandon certain issues regardless of the other differences. Our right won't go too far right and our left to far left. Just not our style. Now when it comes to the Kadr family, look I would bet most Canadians are pretty tolerant of new Canadians, immigrants, and people of many beliefs. But I believe the issue as tot he Kadr family transcends left or right and people of all political leanings, ethnic groups, etc., most of us are having a hard time with the concept this family should live in Canada and enjoy its benefits but spits on everything this country stands for. It makes new Canadians nervous. It makes old Canadians nervous. Its a gut thing. We just can only be pushed so far with our moderate tendency to be inclusive but we have a limit and I really think this family has hit the limit and its angering many people from many vantage points. I am someone who is the son of a refugee and whose grandparents depended on the good will of people from the Christian religion and many nationalities for me to be alive. I am here precisely because my families dreamed of a country like Canada where the police or government did not hunt down and kill Jews and we are treated like everyone else. Many Canadians of different back-grounds have that same shared experience. We just can not agree with someone coming to this country and spitting on it and then insisting it protect them. Its just not right. I have huge debates with some of the right wingers as to tolerance for new Canadians and assimilation issues but on this one, I think truly most of us are on the same page. You just can't build a country if its citizens come to the country to take advantage of its hospital system, democratic institutions, and demcoractic fundamental rights to serve as a cover for terror. Its bullshit. Terrorists of any kind belong in jail and tried in an international court under an international treaty that all countries abide by. You want to be in a family where your husband and children are terrorists please don't tell me you knew nothing of this, are innocent, and are entitled to welfare and medicare. You are entitled to nothing. Nothing but a prison cell. The wife of Kadr was a willing accomplice. She was no victim. The children sure they may have been brainwashed since they were children but there is a limit to leniency and no we do not say because they are under the legal age if they engage in war and terror they walk. Sorry but our approach to letting underage people walk from crimes domestically has caused huge social problems now trying to do that on an international level is no more helpful. Terror is wrong. Period. There are no excuses and you can not be a citizen of Canada if you engage in it. I think most of us believe this what-ever side we are on. I appreciate there must be a fair legal process. I do. I am a lawyer. I believe in the law . But I also believe terrorism can not be tolerated or excused. So honestly AmericanWoman I just don't feel the Kadrs should have remained in Canada. I personally believe they should have been deported. Either that or all charged with treason. The place to plea their innocence is in a criminal court until an international court is created. This is a matter of crime-treason, then if determined to be guilty of a crime either jail or deportation or both. I have zero sympathy or compassion for the Kadrs or anyone like them who comes to Canada to use it as a cover for terror.

I obviously am with you and AmericanWonderWoman on this one but I wouldn't be afraid of him. Seriously. He's someone who depends on people being intimidated. We Canadians tend to get intimidated too quickly when someone just plain doesn't sit well with us. Yer gut is tellin you something. Telling me the same thing. Nothing for us to fear just think about when we vote. Technically the US and Canada have always been able to exchange emergency help on many levels. We sent a navy ship full of medical supplies to Louisiana during Katrina. The coast guards and navies from both countries have ignored the borders on the sea in times of peril to save people. When we have bad bad storms, cities on both sides of the board have sent snow crews, medical emergency personnel, hydro workers. With forest fires we have helped each other out. I think its a good thing if there is a natural catastrophe we cut through the paper work and get help to victims quickly. On the other hand, I think yes there may be some underlying political agenda here that he's not being up front about because he knows it would create a political opportunity for Dion and Layton to play the anti-Yankee Doodle Dandy tune to get some votes. I have always suspected that in the event of a large scale nuclear or germ terror attack Canada does not have a civil defence system capable of responding to a devastated city. We just do not have a large enough armed forces. This could be what is also behind it. I personally am not afraid of Americans. I really am not. What I am afraid of is our politicians when they sense we are all complacent fools.

JBG I would not assume he is native. Right now he appeats to be to be just another drama student trying to get into character. Listen Chachee or what-ever your real name is, this victim role you are trying to get into, its not working. Surely your drama teacher explained to you that to convey tragedy you need to find humility and its more then imitating. Int his case imitating is mockery. What you think is you presenting the accent and sounds of your character is cheap mockery. Superficial, gimmicky and rank amateur. Alica Keyes? Yah right. enough with the drag queen affectations. This is not Lisa Minelli on broadway. If you can't smell Buffy St. Marie then don't even attempt the part. Look around Chachee. Plenty of players lined up auditioning for that part but the Tonto routine its rank amateur. Go watch Adam Beach as Ira Hayes. Then try Johny Cash's ballad and listen to it over and over. Cuz until you get it, this is all just very ungifted despite what the school board thinks.

Stephen Harper looks like a 55 year old " diesel dyke ". He looks more and more like Anne Murray every day. Same hips. Same hair cut. Then again Stephane Dion looks like an angry mailman that dogs like to attack. Jack Layton looks like a troll one would find under a bridge. None of them are exactly babe magnets.