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And? Did you have a point other than to evidence the very thing Bush satirizes? " its an interesting kind of hemmeroid...it denies its an irritant. " Rue 11111111111111111111111111

He has has never. Provide the words. Go on. Finish once the false allegations you start Provide the words. You come on this forum, support a cut and paste jpb smeering Israelis as joyful terrorists , trivialize the holocaust, present your subjective opinions as scientific facts, pose as a scientist, inault people then in the next breath call for the moderator to protect you and now you again out and lie-provide the words that celebrate slaughters when you belittle the holocaust claiming there were many, Go on finish it. You never do. This is why I consider your words on this forum nothing but ejaculate an you keep good company.

Trudeau pranced around the ring in a pathetic cock fight. It didn't change what he was and is- a self absorbed cock who combines the elocution of Daffy Duck, Sylvester, Tweety and Porky Pig. Time Magazine is the next about to do a fluff piece on him. I told people and I say it again, he will be on Dancing With The Stars next year. Its only a matter of time.

Halakha councils or as you call them Jewish family courts were never abolished because hey never opted out of Canadian family law. They are more accurately called arbitrations. The parties must consent to attend them and follow the rulings of the Rabbiah but the Rabbiah can not make any ruling that contradicts existing Canadian laws and the decisions can be appealed or ignored. So don't make inaccurate comments and drag Jews into the discussion. The Muslms requesting Sharia law courts wanted to opt out of the existing Canadian laws and then certain Jewish and Christian clergy said if Muslims can opt out so should we. These Jews and Christians represented a small minority. In fact the majority of Muslim community in Ontario wanted the opt out. It was the idiot McGuinty who raised the idiot idea to let Muslims opt out of existing provincial family laws. Then the jack ass realized divorce law is federal jurisdiction and he needed consent of the federal government who said no, this would cause chaos.. McGuinty initiated it as a trial balloon to pander for ethnic votes for an election coming up. Gee imagine that a Liberal pandering for ethnic votes. This Jew says keep state and religion separate., Just to answer another poster who raised the point, interestingly I do know Islam and Judaism say we should be buried separately from people outside our belief. I don't agree. I don't believe in segregation myself. Then again my religion says you must be buried immediately and not donate your organs. I will donate my organs (the non rotted ones which at this point may not exist) and be cremated. I do not believe in polluting the ground with toxic chemicals. If I had my way they would feed me to vultures my favourite birds. I am told it is against the city by-laws. As for my ashes, I am donating them for cat litter at the humane society. Hot Enough wants them to check for traces of thermite. All he will find is gefilte fish.

Hey genius get back to me when you can figure out the difference between someone stating a subjective opinion and someone posing a subjective opinion as an objective fact. " it took him a while to learn how to tie his shoes...now he has to learn how to put the shoes on before he ties them." Rue 1.2

I had no like button to push so I wrote this in response to it.

As a Jew I find such discussions a tad cynical coming from the left posing as if they are concerned about bigotry. Left wingers have no problem getting into bed with bigots against Jews who feel Jews have the right to be a political collective. In such instances the bigotry flows and Liberals have no problem marching with trendy leftists and neo Nazis and pro Muslim extremists suspending any tolerance and demanding Jews be fired from their positions and boycotted. Trendy leftist Liberals have no problems getting into bed defending Muslim extremists and their views but then in the next breath pissing on Christians for having similar fundamental religious views. Excuse me then if I find your outrage and concern selective and inconsistent and only something you express for selective purposes, i.e, it is limited by you to Muslims and no one else. I believe you'd b e the first in line with a pitch fork and a torch screaming for Frankenstein's head yelling he's a Zionist. You don't apply a fair and consistent standard of tolerance to all peoples. You tolerate what you politically agree with and stop there. BC's point is and he knows I have to know it - trying to censor someone's hateful beliefs will not make them go away. Canada gives us the opportunity to debate and challenge such feelings in public if we have to. Bc is right. You don't have to condone or agree with a bigot but you have to let them speak. Isn't it ironic you select the Charter and spew outrage over it being violated in Kadr's case but now extol ignoring its provisions on freedom of speech? How selective and convenient. Our laws are not perfect but we already have laws that say if someone incites violence they will get arrested. Until then the Charter, you know the same one you use to protect Kadr, it also protects freedom of expression by bigots and so it should because if you shut them up you shut up everyone else as well. There's no such thing as a little bit of pregnancy when it comes to freedom of speech. Its the nature of the beast. By the way I don't hear you asking or Omar's mother to be arrested? Have you heard what she has said about terrorism and Canada? Why do you and liberals not jump up and down demanding she be held accountable for inciting Kadr's behaviour if you think he was innocent? We need to engage in common sense and a standard of consistency that deals with all people equally. Selecting only the trendy causes you want to be outraged about is the superficial, shallow phony posing I accuse trendy leftists on this board with evidencing and its why I challenge many of your comments.

What info? Seriously what info? Are you saying there was no info placing him at the scene of his crimes and engaging in criminal actions other than his oral testimony? Res ipsa loquitor is the expression. Certain facts speak for themselves. His physical presence, his membership in Al Quaeda his terrorist connection activities, all are non disputed facts. His selective amnesia whether he threw a grenade means sweet phack all. It doesn't magically erase what he was doing. His forgetting what he was doing but remembering he was Canadian like his refusal to be cross examined on his claims of torture showed he was playing the system. If he was genuinely tortured why did his lawyers not let him not testify to that effect? Listen You want to pretend he was not in Afghanistan as an Al Quaeda terrorist engaged in armed violence go ahead. I guess that's what Eye calls a semantic shell game hmmm?

Not too much longer. I have taken your counsel as to this matter to my council and the are making a determination whether I should make you spell supeona. Seriously I think the public deserves better then our politicians twisting laws to suit politically partisan interests that are put in priority before the public's interests. I think compensating Kadr financially compromised public integrity and the way to have acknowledged government constitutional violations was a public apology but not financial compensation. You deliberately pose as if you don't understand that argument put forth by 70% of Canada as if they can not understand the law. They want the law when its faced with conflicting issues such as Kadr's actions and the government's actions, to engage in a balancing act not a one sided capitulation to Kadr. Law is supposed to seek compromise and balance not create undue power in the hands of indviduals. Kadr being given financial compensation gave him too much power over our government. It doesn't remedy what the government does, it undermines the government in future encounters with terrorists and it sets a precedent not just for Canadian citien terrorists but terrorists period. I personally would pass a law stripping people of Canadian citizenship and the right to return if they leave the country to engage in terrorism. If they are "children" as you say then I want to know why the mother of this "terrorist" who played a vital role in turning him into a terrorist and condoning his crimes and to this day condoning his crimes is still a Canadian citizen? You not I came on this thread with other Kadr supporters blaming his father and gave stayed silent on his mother and sister who sit in Brampton pissing on everything this country stands for, advocating terrorism and Al Quaeda political philosophy and the mother and sister weren't put on trial for their role in 'brainwashing" Kadr? Which one is it Omni? If he was brainwashed why are they not being tried for treason, child abuse, aiding and abetting the corruption of a minor? Hmmm? You think non lawyers don't understand the two faced bullsheeyat that absolves Kadr of being a terrorist and blaming it on his parents, and then doesn't hold his beloved Mama accountable? It is a travesty his family lives in Canada using their citizenship as a convenience while they continue to spew hateful pro terrorist views daily.

Bang on. I defer to the comment. I think that was an excellent point.

Again you engage in passive aggressive posing suggesting you can't understand why it would be important for our government to reference the Supreme Court of Canada to ask whether Kadr's compensation should have been anything other than nominal. .

That was helpful. Thank you. I wasn't sure what Omni was doing pretending he suddenly does not understand me....a semantic shell game you say. I had no idea he needed shells to do that.

You are being passive aggressive in feigning selective confusion when it suits you.

A prison is inanimate. A prison can not be illegal lawyer expert. The detention procedures might be unconstitutional. You really want to keep repeating such stupidity and pose as a legal expert to others? People engage in illegalities. Its their actions that may be illegal.

How about you? Why do you make such patronizing comments about people who are not lawyers? You spell counsel, council. You have shown you have no clue what a precedent is and how it is required to base a legal opinion and you still want to come on this forum posing as if you know better then others on this thread because they aren't lawyers? What about you? You want to pretend you are a lawyer? This arrogance you display, this presumption you came on the board to lecture others not as smart a sy ou on the law has been an epic failure. Give it a rest and stop posing. In fact people like me with legal training have zero issues with people disagreeing with laws or legal interpretations of the law or enforcement of the law. Why would we? We do have issues when people misrepresent the law. The law itself is meant to be apolitical. When people spin it for political purposes we challenge it as compromising the law's true purpose which is not to take sides but balance the sides in dispute. More to the point there has never been a legal reference as to whether Kadr's amount should have been rendered a nominal one due to dirty hands. That's a legal issue never decided because its never been dealt with. Until it is the assumption its been ruled on is not true and Often was referencing the Charter violation finding not the reference as to his dirty hands lowering his amount to a non personal reward and nominal amount.. I say to Often and others, we still have the legal option to make that reference. The money has been transferred now thanks to Trudeau making a deliberate political decision to avoid that reference-but it still needs to be done so that future terrorists can't get personal compensation as Kadr did. A citizen's group will need to come forward to mount this challenge now. Its up to the people not Lord Justin of Ilovemyself.

Your words "may not have done" contradict your first assertion where you claim you don't support what Kadr did.. You inserted them to suggest there is no proof what Kadr was arrested for..Of course you support what Kadr did. You have denied from the get go he is responsible for what he did and denied he has dirty hands. By denying he is responsible for what he did and denying he has dirty hands, you necessarily support what he did. When people engage in violence and get caught we have to make decisions how to deal with them. You want to pay them if their charter rights are violated, I do not. I think the government's violations must be dealt with in a way that does not entitle the violent perpetrator to financial gain but holds the government accountable in other ways, You don't. You agree with personally compensating perpetrators of violence and denying they were even violent pretending they MAY NOT have engaged in violence. Your model of alleged tolerance to means nothing to me In one breath you lecture on how we should not be intolerant of Kadr and in the next admit you travel to nations you know discriminate against people simply because they are not Muslim. Excuse me if I find your views questionable and inconsistent as to when you become and exercise tolerance See I can handle a Taxme-they are openly bigoted and don't hide the crosses they bring to burn. Yours you wear around your neck and pay lip service to.it on Easter or Christmas. Omni I don't have the luxury or moral code to be able to hide my name and deny what I am when I travel. I don't hide from the hatred Kadr was part of. I confront it. Ironically I confront it with gentiles not just Jews. Those gentiles include Muslims who have stood next to me in meetings and defended me and others and called out terrorism and extremism no differently than I have or Christian gentiles or atheist gentiles, etc. That is my point. I don't stand for Trudeau's lip service of photo ops with Syrian refugees fleeing Muslim extremism in one moment and attending extremist Mosques in another. I don't stand for Trudeau who panders to Muslims clapping as a Muslim MP singles out anti-Islam sentiment and then in the next breath ignoring Muslim anti-Semitic messages coming from Mosques in Canada. I don't stand for Trudeau who panders to Muslim conservative fundamentalists for their vote and then in the next breath ridicules the Conservative party leader for being a conservative Catholic. I don't stand for people who turn their tolerance on and off depending on whether it suits their needs. The gentiles who died fighting Hitler and who now fight terrorists don't have the luxury to pick and choose the depravity they defend us against. I stand by them. They personify what it took for my relatives to survive so I could be born in a country where the police do not arrest me for being a Jew. I can deal with superficial Trudeaus. What I can't deal with people who lecture me or others that we should ignore the very morals that built our society. The symbolic exercise of financially compensating Kadr symbolized condoning what heI did-something you just can not notice and acknowledge. If you see nothing contradictory in posing with refugees fleeing terrorist violence and paying Kadr-what have you noticed? If you see nothing contradictory in your Prime Minister in one breath saying we should not negotiate with terrorists while it now comes out less then a week before he said that he arranged his pay off with Kadr, what have you noticed? If you see nothing contradictory in Trudeau et al complaining Peter Kent wrote an aricle in an American newspaper criticizing him while Trudeau had just finished posing for a Rolling Stone article fawning about him, what have you noticed? How did you not notice this is the PM who came to office saying there would be no more secrets and back-room deals and he did exactly that with Kadr? How do you not notice this PM came to office and has put this country into a disasterous multi-generational debt from reckless spending and then in the next breath says he's concerned about the potential legal bill of Kadr's case was referenced further to the Supreme Court of Canada? How have you not noticed the epidemic of suicide in returning Canadian soldiers from Afghanistan and Trudeau is continuing to finance a law that will not provide them adequate social services but in the next breath says he as no money to finance a legal reference on Kadr? Tell me what do you notice? I notice a pattern far bigger than the pay out to Kadr that it is connected to.

Really. I thought it was you feeding back your inability to keep up with words with more than one syllable such as kazam, kapow, yabba dabba doo and my favourite from you boyz in the hood,- tee hee.

Horse crap. What you describe has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with you making the choice to travel and do business with bigoted anti semitic nations and seeing nothing wrong with it. You just proved my point. If you had a Jewish sounding name you'd hide it just like you do the Israeli stamp. You are a liberal extolling tolerance unless it inconveniences you and your ability to travel and make money I don't hide what I am and I haven't changed my name or pose with a non Muslim name on this forum either. I do not hide who I am. I don't travel to countries that have a problem with me being a Jew or having been to Israel because I have self-respect. Thanks for proving my point. You turn off your liberalism and tolerance when its inconvenient. You say one thing and practice another. Is it any wonder you defend Kadr for only finding his Canadian citizenship convenient once he was caught. Thanks for proving how deep your liberal tolerance is. You have zero problems sucking up to Iran and Saudi Arabia. Gosh who would have thought. By the way, this game is tiresome. You should also know for over 20 years people with Saudi or Iraqi stamps haven't been allowed in Iran. Yabba Dabba doo.

Now see that is anger. Its a destructive emotion. Ask yourself, what triggered the reaction. Are their more constructive methods to deal with that anger? You see how Omar got in trouble?

Yah and you travelled to Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iran with it. Anything else? Do you like doing this with me? Is this what you want to reduce yourself too? Omni I am going to stop now. It's one thing challenge you when you are being silly but it snot my intent to insult your family for any reason. For that matter I razz you because I think you deserve it for saying some ridiculous things but I am not going further. Please stop and don't pose like you could travel to such countries with an Israeli stamp or a Jewish name.

No it does explain your second sentence though. Here I hope this helps you, https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pathological-relationships/201212/fantasy-and-it-s-effect-your-reality

Its spelled counsel not council legal expert. The prison was not illegal. Its an inanimate object. The procedures used to detain Kadr not the prison itself were unconstitutional. They were not illegal. They violated the Charter not the Criminal Code. I already gave you an article explaining the difference. If you can't grasp it and want to call inanimate objects illegal and spell council, counsel, knock yourself out. Hey genius don't bother. A Gun is not illegal. Its own lacking a license for it makes his possessing it illegal. Yah I know you need some time to go over that one. No problem. The examination of Kadr may have violated his rights under the Charter but that does not make them illegal. There is no Criminal Code provision that defines what is what is not a "legal" examination. Jethro I have already had my long talk with you. Go talk to Sonny Drysdale.

" The boy asked me what is relative so I have him an example and aid both his parents were and that's when he really got confused and said said he would go ask his sister who is also his mother." Rue 1213

Finish it then..... as to constitutional violations.

Yah I bet and you visited the prisons and spoke to the families of political opponents of these regimes and lived just like the natives. Lol. Finish it Bwana-Sahib, when you travelled there, do you think you saw from the air conditioned bus window to pose like you do now? Save your vacation pictures Bwana Sahib.