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Provide the example of Israel bombing school children. Go on finish your hatchet job. This is fun Israel is a rapist, a school children bomber, please continue. Actual examples would be nice.

You came on this thread and denied anyone supports terrorism. I call you out now with the above words as someone who engages in terrorist rhetoric. Go on explain it away like Hudson Jones did when he said Zionism is a cancer that needs to be wiped out.

Israeli terrorists. Atta boy. That made sense. They are all over Europe blowing it up. They are walking on the streets indiscriminately attacking people with knives. That's brilliant. Your equating all of Israel with Hamas and other Muslim extremist terrorists is just brilliant. Its why I have so much respect for your contributions on forums.

The opposite of your denial.

So now Israel is a rapist. Yah right on point of the thread.

You justify terrorism and so does Hudson Jones. Your call to arms on this thread speaks for itself Moe.

He's not mad, you on the other hand sound mad.

He didn't, you did. Also the simplistic inflammatory use of video and leading questions, to try incite hatred against Israelis is pathetic and is yet another example of using these threads as a pretext to engage in inciting hatred against Israelis for existing as Israelis. You are not discussing the issue of the thread at all.

The Arab world remakins fixated on denying a Jewish state. I am not sure what it would take for a Muslim leader to say-phack it Israel is Jewish. If that denial was ended, Netanyahu and his right wing allies and their successors would be compelled to step down from their war setting. If terrorists put down their weapons and acknowledged Israel's Jewish existence they could have a strong alliance with Israel in terms of modern technology. Pulling settlers out of the West Bank without recognition of a Jewish state for them to be pulled back to is not possible. Jerusalem being Israel's capital is not the issue-accepting it being part of a Jewish state is. It is the recognition of the Jewish state of that capital that makes Jerusalem an issue. If Israel as a Jewish state was recognized, there is zero reason it could not also be a second Muslim Palestinian state's capital as well. Palestinians and Israelis are not the issue. Terrorists who will never recognize a Jewish state who control Palestinians and fuel Israeli defensive postures are. If you think as long as terrorists exist on the West Bank or Gaza, they only exist because Israel has Jews on the West Bank you are mistaken take a good hard look at Hamas and Hezbollah. Both said they only existed because Israel was in Gaza (Hamas) and Lebanon (Hezbollah). Both said if Israel withdrew from Gaza and Lebanon both would disarm. Israel did and the moment Israel left these two terrorist organizations attacked Israel declaring their war would never end and they would never disarm until al of Israel was liberated from Jews. That is their continuing position and the position of the PA and Fatah openly. If it was as simple as pulling Jews off the West Bank or not calling Jerusalem anyone's capital there would have been peace years ago. Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah are in a declared state of war against Israel, a terrorist war to remove it and turn it back into a Sharia law state. The position of Mr. Abbas is he will never recognize a Jewish state of Israel because if he did that, it would prevent 2-3 million Muslims from "returning" to Israel and automatically becoming citizens. Mr. Abbas states any Muslim who feels he is a Palestinian (no test just self identification) should be able to "return" to a country where they never left from or were born in, and be automatically be given land and citizenship. On the expression condition of this return and the dismantling of Israel as a Jewish state, then and only then would he recognize it. His constitution and his speeches make it clear. With a majority of Muslims now Israeli, it would become a sharia law nation and merge with the sharia law nation on the West Bank and Jordan. This was never about co-existence and two states. Its about taking back Israel and removing its Jewish identity. That has never changed and remains the agenda of Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Lebanon, the PA, Fatah and 300 other terror cells on the West Bank, Al Qeda, Isamic Jihad, PFLP, Iran on and on. Marcus, Hudson Jones, et al, read their words. They will never accept Israel as a JEWISH state. The very notion makes them puff up with boils. I repeat again, if the Arab world disarmed its terrorists and recognized the right of Israel to live as a Jewish state, settlers would be pulled out of the West Bank, there would be co capitals in Jerusalem, there would be technological alliances and a free market between a second Palestinian state, Jordan and Israel. None of that happens as long as the agenda is removing Israel as a Jewish state.

What does NOT REALLY APPROVED mean. Stop with the bull shit. The Balfour Declaration was in fact a public statement issued by the British government during WW1. It happened. Really. No one imagined it. It is in writing and its public record and it clearly announced support for the establishment of a "national home for the collectiv Jewish people in what was then referred to as Palestine, It stated: "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." Really. The declaration was contained in a REAL letter letter dated November 2, 1917 from British Foreign Secretart Arthur balfour who was REAL. It was presented to the then Lord Rothschild who was real and was really the leader of the Britishcommunity and he really relayed ity to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland which really existed. The text of the declaration was released by the real press on November 9, 1917. This idiotic attempt to suggest it wasn't real is unreal but hey when you don't like history just pretend its not real. Like really.

Slavery exists throughout the Arab League of Nations and in particular, Sudan, Niger, Chad, Dahomey, Libya, Algeria, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE. In fact Somalis, Tanzanians, Kenyans, Rwandis, Burundis, Dahomey citizens, Senegalese, "Palestinians", black Africans, Pakistanis, Bangla Deshis, Fillipinos, to name a few are all bought and traded as slave workers by Muslim nations. He hasn't justified slavery, but you sure as hell won't acknowledge it.

There is no logic to terrorism or being afraid of it and determining policies based on a fear of it.

I don't share your pessimistic belief but I sure as hell understand it. Religious disputes and that is at the heart of the Jerusalem issue other than its being attached to a greater issue of the Arab nations not wanting to recognize a Jewish state is not as explosive as it sounds. Mecca and Medina are far more serious to the Muslim faith. Jerusalem only became a modern day symbol and when I say modern post 1900's, for protesting against any Jewish identity in Palestine. Its a relatively late dispute. Prior to that, the de facto reality of history left Jerusalem a minor city significant to Jews and Christians but not that big a deal to Muslims until they saw Jews wanting to OWN land then it became a conflict. The Arab League's illegal decision to invade it and divide it never created any legal precedent for permanent borders. The borders after 1949 were not ever recognized by the Arab League of Nations or Palestinians and still are not. They were what is called the armistice line, the line Arab armies retreated from. They did not come about by legal treaty between sovereign nations but from a period of time of not being contested. Most people have no clue what that means on this board nor will they care to. Just like they assume UN resolutions are legally binding rulings. Here is what I can say. All three religions have clergy or scholars that recognize the need for mutual respect at a basic level. That goodwill can be found. The average every day person living in Jerusalem, Christian, Jewish or Muslim really does not get hung up on the issue the geniuses do on this board who claim to speak for them. It is an issue for Hezbollah, Hamas and the PA because all 3 and the other 300 or so Palestinian terror cells operating in Gaza and on the West Bank will not recognize a Jewish state. That does not mean someone can't eventually surface out of the Palestinians and Muslim world to say knock off the shit, Israel ain't going away, let's find a peace plan. To understand Netanyahu is to understand he puffs. He has a coalition that keeps him in power that has some pretty right wing people in it, but when it comes to an overall peace plan, he has sufficient support without his right wing groups to push one through and if Israel could get recognition of its Jewish identity, a realistic acknowledgement from the PA it can not "return" 2 million self proclaimed Palestinians who never came from Israel into Israel, and a disarming of terrorists, the settlers would be pulled out and after a period of years of no violence the walls would come down. There is zero reason why you could not have two capitals at the same time in Jerusalem or a trilateral international neutral government catering to the rights of all three and not preventing Israel or a second Palestinian state from having co-capitals. Ehud Barak proposed it and offered it. So did Rabin. So did Olmert. It was in fact Arafat who said phack off to any idea of a Jewish state anywhere openly and loudly and Abbas continues that position. Hezbollah's position as shouted out by its leader yesterday in Beirut was and I quote, "DEATH TO ISRAEL". This is not about Jerusalem, its about recognizing a Jewish state which would be what recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel would really mean to the PA, Hamas et al. Jerusalem is not the issue. Its the recognition of a JEWISH state in Israel. The anti Israelis on this board particularly Marcus won't have the decency or integrity to admit that. Instead they try isolate the settlement or capital of Jerusalem issues as if they are isolated issues. This is why he writes in his style calling on war against Israel when discussing Jerusalem. He's a as transparent as hemmeroid on an elephant. So I say to you, if we ever got past the collective Arab denial that Israel exists as a Jewish nation, issues like Jerusalem, the settlements, would not be hard to get to....but until that impasse is dealt with no other issues are going to be dealt with. The capital of Jerusalem issue is a shot at saying to the Arab world, deal with the reality of Israel. Your tantrums, your threats of terrorism, they haven't worked. Let's be very clear as well. Saudi Arabia as the protectorate of Sunni Islam, Egypt, Jordan, all will not openly state they can live with Israel-they do it secretly because its their ally versus Iran. Push come to shove they want a two state solution because they need Israel to exist to protect them from Iran's nuclear threat. China has enabled a forced detente between Iran and Israel by entering into strategic military alliances with both at the same time. It now gives a bit of breathing room for Sunni nations to deal with extremist Sunni elements and decide can we live with a Jewish state but at the same time placate people in the West Bank and Gaza. Its possible. The way to do it is to provide an alternative to terrorism. If Palestinians lived in a nation where they had access to travelling through Jordan and Israel and use their airports and ports they could form a common market with Jordan and Israel and the three could share water, trade, markets, all the things terrorism prevents. When Marcus talks about check points he is as usual misrepresenting their reality. Their reality is they interfere with the movement of Jews, Muslims, Christians, Beduins, Druze, all of them equally. When people are stopped there is no magic that says Jews are unhindered. What a crock of shit. Everyone of all religions and ethnicities are equally as negatively impacted by checkpoints which are there because of terrorists not civilians. Israel has zero intention of annexing the West Bank. If it did it would become a majority Muslim state and cease to exist as a Jewish state. It does not want the West Bank. Its settlements started out as early warning anti terrorist frontier posts to intercept terrorists. These posts became outmoded because of satellite and other surveillance technology. The people who moved to the West Bank who were Israeli went because they were given tax breaks. They are in the large picture expendable in a movement of them back to Israel in return for Arabs who claim to be Palestinian thinking they can just walk into Israel and be given citizenship. 70% of the so called Palestinians on the West Bank are descended from Arabs who flooded the West Bank and in fact displaced Palestinian Muslims squatting and seizing their land. That is why Arafat blew up the Land Titles office on the West Bank. He had to hide that myth of Palestinians and destroy the evidence of how he invented the term Palestinian to mean any Arab who is not Jewish who wishes to call himself that and is the only refugee definition in the world where the refugees never lived in the country or originated from the country they claim to be dispossessed from. Solve the collective denial of Israel being Jewish, anything peaceful is possible. Otherwise TSS you are right,

Not needed. Israelis unlike you are quite clear on where they do not want terrorists situated. You mistake them for you.

I think Sap we need a coke. I would like to get one with the special names on them. I would like Don on my coke or Dick at this point. You know seriously I prefer Pepsi. That said I will say this. Back in 1949 when Israel was started the Arab League said to Coke, if they sold Coke in Israel the Arab League would boycott them. Pepsi, Schweppes, 7Up all the soft drink companies except Coke sold drinks in Israel. Coke told the Arab world to phack off. Interestingly the non Coca Cola products did not gain any marketing advantage over Coke. To this day you won't see Pepsi in Israel for that reason. Yah these boycotts really hurt those Israelis One of the reasons it is believed Coca Cola did not boycott Israel was that its upper echelon were believed to be religious Christians who felt Israel was destined. Jesus, Coke and the Jews.

They are in fact treated far worse and for someone who claims to be a Canadian your ignorance as to that fact is interesting.

Today I called Erdogan an idiot and anyone who parrots him cogntiively deficient. The point? Who the hack cares.

In fact the majority of US Jews voted for Obama. The ones that were Republicans voted for other candidates. You again spew bullshit.

The above is an example of just how stupid and banial these threads become and why the majority of people that used to be on this forum left. The word is SHALEM not SHALOM. The root-verb is Hebrew and in Hebrew its שלם (shalem). Shalem does not magically turn into Selam because Altai wants it to. It has a meaning and it feres to "wholeness" or "completeness" or "unbrokenness". The opposite verb in Hebrew is RAA or רעע, ra'a). The sheer stupidity of what Altai does is to say because Shalem sounds like Seleme it means the same. Of course it does not and you will not find any source anywhere that would take the Arabic language and misinterpret it that way. In fact the equivalent word for Shalom in Arabic would be Salaam not Selam as anyone who speaks Arabic knows. Salaam and Selem are not close in the Arabic language just in Altai's mind. Shalem is in fact a Hebew verb is used to describe the uncut stones of the altar as stated in Deuteronomy 27:6 and the temple in 1 Kings 6:7. It is referred to as a "full" or "righteous" wage in Ruth 2:12, and the total sum of a population in (Amos 1:6. It also is used to describe "full" and "just weights" that is said to "delight" or God or make God happy in Deuteronomy 25:15 and Proverbs 11:1. Its used in Kings 8:61 to describe a "full" heart devoted to God. It was also used as a verb to denote the completeness of sin in (Genesis 15:16 and in Jeremiah 20:10, Psalm 41:10) it was used in relation to friendship. It has nothing to do with Islam. Not a phacking thing. To shalemize someone in Hebrew refers to achieving wholeness by paying compensation/restiotution or making a promise to undo a sin. It was used to describe God paying a man according to his work (Job 34:11),. In Exodus 21:36 its a story of an owner being compensated for the accidental killing of his ox. Its used to describe paying off a debt with oil in (2 Kings 4:7); and in the story where the Gibeonites are said to have swindled or tricked Joshua into making a covenant with them in Joshua 10:1. The verb shalem was used to describe the vows paid to God , or when days of mourning were said to be completed in (Isaiah 60:20 and was used in reference to the " Messiah" in Joel 2:25. Altai is not only ignorant but deliberately so. She knows nothing of Hebrew, the Bible and the actual origin of the word in Hebrew and things because she thinks it sounds like a word for Islam presto it becomes so. This is not just childish and idiotic, its petulant. There's no source she quotes and most importantly she shows her ignorance not only of Hebrew but the Arabic language. Selame and Salaam don't magicaly mean the same thing because Alta chooses to ignore what the word Salaam means which is the closest Arabic word to Saleme. Would this "Alta" quote a source? Lol. To give you an idea of just how stupid Alta is being look at this list you will see the sheer number of words close to the Hebrew word shalem. Islam or selame is but one and she has no clue as to all the rest. Associated Biblical names ♂Abishalomאבישלום ♂Absalomאבשלום אבשלם ♂Bishlamבשלם ☺Islamישלם ⌂∩Jerusalemירושלם ירושלים ♂Meshelemiahמשלמיה ♂Meshillemithמשלמית ♂Meshillemothמשלמות ♂Meshullamמשלם ♀Meshullemethמשלמת ☺Muslimמשלם ⌂Salemשלם ♀SalomeΣαλωμη ♂♕Shallumשלום שלם ♂Shallunשלון ♂Shalmaiשלמי ♂♕Shalmaneserשלמנאסר ♂Shelemiahשלמיה ♂Shelomiשלמי ♂♀Shelomithשלמית ♂Shelumielשלמיאל ☺Shulammite I find the petulance of Altai something typical of so called Muslim radicals. They show contempt for any knowledge or culture other than the one they think they advocate and they are so ignorant they don't even understand their own culture and languages. Here are my sources to start with: http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Jerusalem.html#.Wi7hyo-cGaF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Jerusalem https://sidroth.org/articles/real-meaning-jerusalem/ https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/jerusalem/ http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1206280/jewish/Who-Named-Jerusalem.htm Next and here is why I call Altai out as a liar. No one using the Arabic language uses the word Jerusalem. They use the term Al-Quds or Baitul-Maqdis. Next. Muslims are told Jerusalem is the third holiest site for Muslims after Mecca and then Medina. Muhammad was said to have travelled one night to Jerusalem. Interestingly this journey was never mentioned in the Koran and good luck even finding the word Jerusalem in the Koran. In fact Sura 17 states that Allah is said to have taken Muhammad from “the Sacred Mosque” in Mecca “to the farthest [al-aqsa] Mosque.” however the Al Asqa Mosque in Jerusalem the one with the Gold Dome never existed at the time Muhammed went there on journey and the Koran referred to another mosque but hey in today's Islam the fact that there was no Al Asqua mosque doesn't prevent the masses of Muslims from overlooking that it did not yet exist and so was NOT the “farthest” mosque referred to in Sura 17. As stated Jerusalem rates not a single mention in the Quran, and Muslims in fact face Mecca in prayer. It was in the 7th century A.D., that the then Damascus-based Umayyad rulers built up Jerusalem as a counterweight to Mecca. This is when in fact the Muslim shrines, the Dome of the Rock (691) and the Al-Aqsa mosque (705), were built and they were built on the site of the destroyed biblical Jewish temples—a deliberate act of ignorance and insult which was done to signal the dominance of Islam over Judaism. Let it be crystal clear. Any t reference in the Koran of Muhammad’s night journey to heaven on his horse Buraq from the “farthest mosque” did NOT mean Jerusalem as its today interpreted , because the Koran refers to the land of Israel as the “nearest” place and it couldn’t have been a reference to the Al-Aqsa mosque, for the simple reason that Al-Aqsa didn’t exist or was built when Muhammed was alive. When the Umayyad dynasty elapsed and the Muslim caliphate (government( them moved to Baghdad, Jerusalem went into a decline. It had no signifigance to Muslims until the Christians showed up during the Crusader period and then later when the Ottoman Empire took it over in the absence of anyone else. This is why for example when Mark Twain, visited in 1867, he described it as a “pauper village.” Jerusalem again becme a Jewish-majority city during the 19th century AND AS PER THE 1907 Baedekers Travel Guide lists Jerusalem was listed with a population of 40,000 Jews, 13,000 Muslims and 7,000 Christians and it meant so little to the Ottoman Empire during WW1 they let the British take it over. The myth of Jerusalem being a Muslim holy city is just that. It was rewritten as a Muslim holy city in response to ZIONISM and Jews showing up in Jerusalem and in Palestine .In fact it was the pro Nazi Jew hating Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini the" Uncle" of Yasir Arafat, who created this muth, To incite a Muslim war on Jews in Palestine Palestine’s he fabricated, HE MADE UP a false story that the wall to which Muhammad was believed to have tethered his steed Buraq was not the southern or eastern walls, as Muslims had asserted for centuries, but the Western Wall, Judaism’s holiest prayer site. This was used by the Muslims and is still used today to forbids Jewish prayer at the Jewish religion’s holiest site, the Temple Mount. It also is used to do the same to Christians. This is why the Western Wall became a flashpoint for conflict. However the vast majority of people who come on this forum and spew their crap about Israel have no clue as to this or the actual creation of the myth of Jerusalem. Muslim scholars do and don't even buy into the crap of the PA, Iran, and pathetic parrots on this thread like Altai. Then we have experts like Ghost who know nothing of Jewish or Muslim history let alone the New testament who are self appointed geniuses who assume there is a magical line between East and West Jerusalem because they say so. In fact there was a massive Arab assault on Jews across Palestine in 1929, in which 133 Jews were murdered and hundreds more maimed, triggered by false rumors that Jews had attacked, or were intending to attack, the mosques atop the Temple Mount. Even the pro Nazi anti semite Mufti of Jerusalem recognized that the Holy Mount was a site of the biblical Jewish temples. It was Arafat and Abbas who then changed this and have stated publically there was NO Jewish temple or temples in Jerusalem. In fact the Jerusalem Muslim Supreme Council’s publication, “A Brief Guide to the Haram Al-Sharif,” states, “Its (the Mount in Jerusalem) identity with the site of Solomon’s Temple is beyond dispute.” Then magically in 1954, all further editions of this publication deleted any reference to Sloomon's temple. During Jordan’s illegal occupation and annexation of eastern Jerusalem from 1948-1967, Amman remained the Jordanian capital, not Jerusalem and no Arab rulers, other than King Abdullah, then King Hussein ever visited Jerusalem and still don't. This assumption East Jerusalem is off limits to Jews comes from where? It was never part of any sovereign nation. Why is it assumed automatically that it can not be part of a Jewish state? This is part of the myth that Palestine is whatever and wherever Abbas and the Arab League say it is. Horseshit. The entire West Bank and East Jerusalem were never part of a sovereign nation and are in dispute. Jordan in fact was created illegally and is already a Palestinian state. Now the Palestinians want a second state but this second state has never been referred to by Arafat, the Mufti, Abbas ANY Palestinian terrorist or leader as only the West Bank. In fact they state time and time again it means all of Israel, Jordan and the West Bank and the only way Israel gets recognized are if MUSLIMS claiming to be descended from Palestinians with NO PROOF are given automatic right to enter Israel and given citizenship and land. This would mean Israel would only bhe recognized by Abbas if it becomes Muslim majority and his constitution clearly states it would have to be a MUSLIM Sharia law state and that this would be the first step to amalgamating it with Jordan and the West Bank into one Muslim sharia law state. Jerusalem is not a stand alone issue. Its always been attached to a claim that all of Israel not just the East of Jerusalem belongs in a Muslim sharia law state. That sharia law state as Hamas and Abbas have made it clear, will not permit 250,000 ultra-orthodox Jews who are not Zionist to stay in Hebron and its surrounding area even though they have lived their longer than any Muslim Palestinian. This nation will not recognize the right of any Jew or Christian to own land. It would return non Muslims to the status of dhimmi, second class inferiors unable to own land or have the same legal rights as Muslims. This is why the PA-Hamas do NOT recognize Christian church land titles which consist of 90% of Jerusalem. Unlike the anti Israelis on this board who necessarily deny Jewish history and reinvent Muslim history, some deliberately and others out of ignorance, I provide sources for my positions. I say to Ghost and anyone else who wants to draw a line down Jerusalem, you engage in colonial, racist, ignorance. You make no effort to study the indigenous roots of Jerusalem or its history and assume you can arbitrarily draw a line between it without so much as an attempt to address the history of all three religions connected to it. The fact is Muslims have no greater right to any part of Jerusalem than Jews or Christians. All three have equal rights. The arbitrary decision to split it down the middle came about from Jordan illegally occupying it. In a comprehensive peace settlement there would have to be some formula so that if there was a second Palestinian state on the West Bank that recognized Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state , both nations could access it and the rights of Christians would also be protected. It is bullshit to discuss Jerusalem without acknowledging the division of East and West is the starting point. It never was. That is a creation that Jordan created. Had the UN been honest and followed up on the League of Nations mandate it let expire, Jerusalem would never have been part of Jordan and Jordan would have been the only Palestinian state. The Arab League of Nations acknowledged Jordan as the Jewish free Palestinian state then declared war to rid Palestine of Jews, not to create a second Palestinian state, but only to murder Jews as it said. Arafat and all the Palestinian leaders ridiculed the concept of a Palestinian state and said they were Arabs seeing one large Muslim caliphate in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, the West Bank and Israel. It was only in 1967 when Jordan had enough of Arafat and expelled him for trying to kill Huseein in the Black Sabbath uprising, Arafat reinvented the term Palestinian as a nationalist collective identity as he openly admitted. Abbas the same person who wrote his Ph.d thesis claiming there was no holocaust reinvented Canaanites as Palestinians in his rewriting of Middle East history. In the world of Abbas anyone in the Middle East who is not a Jew is a Palestinian and should have access to Israel as no Jewish state should exist in the Middle East which he envisions as one Muslim territory. The only thing that has screwed up Abbas and Hamas and the other terrorists is the civil war between Shiite and Sunnis. If Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan did not need Israel to buffer Iran, they would have carried on financing Palestinian terrorists. Let's also not estimate with the collapse of the US presence in the Middle East, China took over forming military alliances with Iran and Israel and Syria all at the same time preventing them from a war and then China moved to pacify Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan when Obama turned on all three trying to prop a Muslim Brotherhood revolution with the failed Morsi of Egypt, Obama's half brother, the head financier of Sudan, and the lunatic Erdogan of Turkey whose ISIL project blew up in his and Obama's face. Of course Trump recognized Jerusalem. Its a not so subtle message he rejects Obama's last 8 years of molly coddlying Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood. Trump has never stated a second Palestinian state should not exist and co-exist with Israel in Jerusalem. All he said was Israel's capital is Jerusalem which it is. The fiction of placating Arab countries and pretending this is not so only feeds the myth they can dismantle Israel as a Jewish state and deny any Jewish presence anywhere in the Middle East not just in Jerusalem.. http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/the-myth-of-jerusalems-holiness-to-muslims/2017/06/02/ https://www.thebereancall.org/content/islamic-myths-about-jerusalem http://www.jns.org/latest-articles/2017/5/24/end-the-propaganda-myth-that-jerusalem-is-holy-to-muslims#.Wi7rrI-cFKM=

So is it only West Jerusalem or all of Israel the PA, Hamas, the Arab League and the 300 other Palestinian cells don't recognize as the Jewish state of Israel?

Crude? Vasoline is a crude oil by product. Skip the innocent shit with me. Save it.

I'm no usual suspect. Have the integrity to use my name and explain how I "miscomprehended". Finish it. Tricks? Hell no. Omni could never afford me.

That's right I didn't misquote. Its there for anyone to read and interpret. Watch when you use the vasoline. Things get out of hand real quick.

Present the statement he said that. In fact on Feb. 10, 2016, he stated, " Israel has no choice in the current political reality but to continue its control of the West Bank, ". Netanyahu has not rejected a two state solution for ever as you suggest. In fact if all his statements are read in full context if the PA and Hamas recognized Israel as a Jewish state and disarmed, anything is negotiable at that point. That is his actual position. He has stated recently to Trump that as long as violence continues and the PA-Hamas won't recognize Israel's right to be Jewish, all other discussions are moot. Your attempt to suggest his position is the same as Arafat's is bullshit. He does not support taking over the West Bank and turning it into a Jewish state as the PA and Hamas do taking over Israel and turning it into a Muslim state. You might want to talk to eye about your miscomprehension. He's a tad concerned. Here is an old article that basically explains for you his actual position and the gamesmanship and rhetoric being played out. http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Think-about-it-Netanyahu-and-the-two-state-solution-332888 Netanyahu himself is quote amendable to a two state solution if he could figure out how to disarm terrorists on the West Bank and have the PA and Hamas abandon its notion of turning Israel back into a Muslim state. Some of his cabinet members believe there is no hope of any peace. The majority of the Knesset does. Any attempt to pretend you understand his rhetoric and the issues involved is tainted by your need to present an anti Israel dialogue, Netanyahu and Abbas both say things all the time. What they actually mean when the doors are closed is another story. Their positions unlike your simplistic stereotyping of the issues are far different. As much as I detest Abbas and consider him a liar, when doors are closed, I do not know or claim to know what the PA would settle for. I do know Abbas has no power. He is an aging, tired, weak figurehead who can not afford to sound weak. Likewise Netanyahu has a coalition that would fall apart if he does not sound tough. No one knows the real flex room behind the rhetoric.

I now have time to respond to your bullshit which singles out Jews. To show how full of crap you are in your singling out of Jews I start with this list and ask you to explain how you ignored all these non Jews? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/top-presidential-donors-campaign-money.html Interestingly you choose one Jew who does not even support Trump and came up with 2 others and provide no source to compare what they contribute to others as I did. . You do engage in bullshit that singles out only Jews who donated then advanced the bullshit Jewish money control conspiracy. Jews are rich they control Trump. Got it. There we have it. Nothing but money from Jews, let alone 2 Jews is what controls Trump. You show your true colours. You show vividly how when discussing Israel, you will engage in stereotypes about Jews outside Israel advancing them as part of a Jew control conspiracy. Pathetic. How about these contributors, are they Jews? https://www.aol.com/2010/10/13/the-10-biggest-corporate-campaign-contributors-in-u-s-politics/ Go on pick out the Jews from this list: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-14/presenting-all-time-top-100-political-donors Explain about the NON Jews on this list: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/033116/top-10-corporate-contributors-trump-campaign.asp Explain about the non Jews on this list: http://www.ibtimes.com/who-donates-trump-clinton-list-richest-campaign-contributors-includes-hedge-fund-2440008 Where's the Jews on this one? https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contributors?cycle=2016&id=N00023864 Pick the Jews from this list: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/09/the-six-donors-trump-appointed-to-his-administration-gave-almost-12-million-with-their-families-to-his-campaign-and-the-party/ What about this guy hmm how did you miss him? http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/288377-hindu-american-emerges-as-trump-mega-donor I take the time on this thread to expose you and the rest of your entourage for what you are-bigots. You don't discuss Israel. You don't discuss peace. You come here to incitement and resentment against Jews using this thread as an excuse to do so.