betsy

I say, we should be focused on priorities here. ALL THIS DRIVEL ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVES....ALL BACKED UP BY NOTHING BUT CONJECTURES AND PREDICTIONS! The biggest problem, and the top priority should be how do we stop the CORRUPTIONS that had seeped itself too deeply into our system.... ....because if we do not do some damage control now.... .........CANADA WILL BE THE NEXT BRAZIL OR ARGENTINA OR CUBA! I say, LET'S CLEAN HOUSE!

Cool! Yes governments regulates those you enumerated....but the problem is, THIS GOVERNMENT does not stop there. Now it wants to REGULATE EVERYTHING. It had taken on the very noble position of being our "Big Brother"...claiming that it knows what's best for us. It's starting to poke its toe inside our homes. Wow, good examples! Brazil and Argentina suffered from CORRUPTIONS of PAST government. At least they woke up and booted the past government out of office! That's why we need a change. Corruptions happening here...just too bizarre for a great country like Canada. Inquisition? Oh yes, we have that climate of "witch-hunting" here now...still subtle, but there nonetheless. Liberels love the words "Monitor this!" "REPORT THAT!" "Monitor that!" "REPORT THIS!". Oh darn, you got me!

As I've said before, I am a private home daycare operator who provides quality service from my home. To me, and to a lot of people like me, this is our only source of income. A fellow-home daycare operator chosed this business so she can be at home with her mentally-challenged child. Several colleagues in this business are middle-aged, who have been doing this for years. I have no children of my own. And most of the skills, professional training and experience I have are all centered on childcare. Right now, under the Liberals, I am paying dearly to fund government-funded agencies who operates home daycares. In other words, I am financially supporting my own competition. I would not mind paying and supporting these agencies...except that I think it quite unfair when only such agencies are allowed to take on people qualified for subsidies. I am funding my competition who has a monopoly. Look around you. Under the Liberals, small businesses are almost sure to go bankrupt and closed down in 3 to 5 years. But big corporations are balooning! Corporations are actually squeezing small businesses out the market....for they have the big bucks to spend to pander to the government's and favored lobbyists' every wish! Why can't there be a fair playing field? And then you hear about these bloody corruptions! The privileged, entitled oink-oinks on the troughie having a free feeding frenzy! Taber****, f***, I have justifiable reasons to forget myself and spout off like a drunken sailor! :angry:

[quote name='River_God' date='Jan 7 2006, 08:41 PM' Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Oh boy, I could swear he's talking about the Liberals!

I don't know anybody who is anti-American, but neo-con fanatics want us to think that it's anti-American to say anything bad about any member of their government. Look at all the politician bashing on this forum. By that definition, everybody here is anti-Canadian. The fact that people are standing up to political decisions shows that they have faith that their countries can become better. You are right though that people should be providing creative solutions to problems, instead of just mud-slinging. The worst thing to do is to take a fanatical-reactionary approach where you end up throwing out the baby with the bath water. Still sounds like you're describing the Liberal Party, and some blindly loyal Liberal supporters. All you're accusing the Conservative Party is again, based on nothing except scary, scary predictions and wishful interpretations by a either a brainwashed Liberal or a blind liberal, or an on-the-take Liberal who doesn't want or have no wish to see the happy trough-buffet days to end. Low tax my foot! Everyone around me is groaning, we're actually paying taxes on other services disguised as "registration fees", what about the double dipping on gas tax...a basic commodity now in this time and age? What about the businesses here....that are essential to creating and keeping jobs, real jobs and not the tele-marketing kind of jobs....they are all groaning and struggling to compete with the outside world. Why should I believe when a Liberal supporter tells me "we're actually paying low tax."....when a lot of Liberals could not even tell truth from lies?

Oooops. I was not wearing my glasses. So when I saw the name Conrad Black, I thought this has something to do with the SEC. Speaking of Conrad Black, if SEC will really get involved with the Income Trust scandal, I guess he and the Liberals will have a great deal in common. Incidentally, Conrad and Martin are not good friends of Chretien. Gosh, maybe Chretien framed Conrad?

So what you're suggesting is that you would rather see a party such as the bloc, who makes no bones about the fact they they are not in this to form a federal government, be involved then than The Green Party who has made more progress each election and is trying to be a national party? As for the argument of them not having any seats, what do you think would happen if they were included in the debates. They made it this far without that publicity boon that the other main aprties have, and until this last election did it with no government funding. Gee, with just two hours allotment, it didn't seem long enough for me between the four. But I do understand the unfairness. Maybe the tv executives should prolong the hours?

betsy I am not insulting your intelligence, just stating other facts... We are on the same side here!!! Oh sorry, my post was not directed at you, tml12. I just posted this as a separate reply, in answer to all those who are bringing up what is to me such petty issues. I guess you beat me at posting, thus I ended up under yours.

This is exactly the whole point. Parents having choices...and not being dictated to by the government how to raise their children! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some choice when one of the options isn't there. You can have any colour of Model-T as long as it's black. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> eh?

But please, don't insult what little intelligence I have by distracting me from the real issue why I would like a change of government. To me, it's just this simple: I don't like the direction the current government is leading this nation. I'm tired of paying high taxes just to see the money wasted and line the pockets of Liberal cronies. I'm tired of being hood-winked. The amount of corruptions and scandals that had come out in the last year alone is mind-boggling. These are serious symptoms of a sick nation.

Rigid one party government? Sounds like the LPC to me., Oh yes, it does really sound like the Liberals. The propaganda machine, such as the CBC, are giving biased information...and they're funded by taxpayers money. Martin tried to stop the reporters from bringing up the scandals and corruption issues....lucky some journalists refused to be dictated to. There is a mild form of censorship in practically everything to say....this so-called "political-correctness." Banning of old classical books and plays...just because they're no longer politically correct. Reality that exists from the past are being changed that they no longer paint an accurate picture of what really transpired or what had happened. Parts of history is other words, is being re-written. When the PM bypassed Parliament, and instead gave the task to the courts (which had Liberal-appointed judges) to decide on a traditional definition which held deep meaning for the majority....and he did this knowing some of his own MPs are opposed to his will...I can easily interpret that as a forcible suppression of the opposition. centralized government control....to me, that easily translates into MONOPOLY. belligerent nationalism - I must say, the behaviours of some of the ministers and prominent members of the Liberal Party, went overboard in their belligerent and shameful displays of anti-Americanism. If we are trying to show the world that we are far more superior than the USA, then it was the wrong way to show it. They could have at least did it in a progressive way. Don't we teach our children manners and social courtesy? racism - I think we are very anti-Americans...and very hurtful and downright blunt in saying so. If we say the things we say to Americans to that of other races or ethnic groups, we'd be hauled infront of the tribunal. If we have disagreements with our neighbors, there should be a more positive way of expressing them. Spouting insults like drunken hussies in street alleys does not do Canada any good. See? I know that some will disagree with me....but see? If we want to, we can easily see what we want to see, right? We can easily put meanings to every gestures and every utterance to suit our wishes.

I will gladly read them.....although I already have an idea what I will find. I had listened to Harper last year, and I liked what I heard. Anyway, what concern me most is what is happening right NOW, with our CURRENT government which had been in power for 12 years. This current government had displayed two of the characteristics listed above....plus the endless PATTERN of corruptions and scandals. With the direction this CURRENT regime is leading the country, along with the endless pattern of corruptions and scandals that are erupting all around me....you expect me to ignore these? And worry instead about the "what-if" scenarios about the Conservatives...scenarios that are interpreted for us by the Liberals? I say, !

Got a link for them?

This word is being thrown at the Conservative Party, quite loosely by Liberal supporters, that I decided to look for the meaning myself. If that word is meant to shock into fear - to scare -....well, lo and behold: According to Webster: Fascism is a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, private economic enterprise under centralized governmental control, belligerent nationalism, racism and militarism, etc., Right now, we already have two characteristics of Fascism under the current regime. But I would not call this government "fascist".

Martin apparently asked the reporters not to bring up the current scandals during his campaign. This was poked about at a Mike Duffy discussion. I guess Liberals are so used to ordering the media about...printing only what will be good for the Liberals. Seems like a few media members are rebelling....some blatantly ignoring the "royal request". Way to go media! Keep that freedom part alive! Say no to censorship! It was mentioned at Mike Duffy Count Down that Martin asked the reporters not to bring up the scandals during his campaign. It looks like the Liberals are so used to ordering the media about. But by the looks of it, some are starting to rebel and blatantly ignored the royal request. Way to go, media! Oppose CENSORSHIP! Keep that freedom of speech/expression alive!

No, all I did was wait for results after the Gomery report. The few sacrificial lambs were slaughtered. But those who actually used the taxpayers' money to buy support are still hidden and protected. The same Gomery report that exhonerated Prime Minister Martin? The same Gomery report that praised Ralph Goodale? Yep. The very same Gomery Commission appointed by Martn.

It was briefly touched on the CTV news today about a Water pump something in Quebec which is currently being audited?? They're talking contracts awarded to friends of cronies... Anybody got that? Then the announcer said Martin was campaigning and cut short some questions regarding the recent scandals. The reporters responded by "exploding" around him and bombarded him with more scandal questions, among them was about the water pump. You know, they should audit EVERYTHING the Liberals had touched and done. OOops. I wonder if this is the same one posted on another thread? Could be...

Liberals dislike the philosophy of Conservatives....and Conservatives dislike the philosophy of Liberals. Fine. But the issue is about CORRUPTIONS and SCANDALS that is crippling the country. Undeniable, proven PATTERN OF CORRUPTIONS that had happened, and more allegations of more corruptions under investigations. Undeniable PATTERN OF SCANDALS that had happening...and is still happening, even right after the wake of the Gomery report. You know what they say..."where there's smoke....?" Well, the Liberals had proven that saying true a number of times. What can I say? As a citizen, that is the top most concern for me. You think I quake with fear just because you say Harper WILL DO THIS...or Harper WILL DO THAT? You argue with pure what-ifs, self-serving reasonings backing up your claims...wishy-washy claims...twisting facts...deflecting....sounding just like the Liberal Party you blindly defend. You know what? You just keep reminding me why the Liberals ought not to be trusted. Keep up the good work.

No, all I did was wait for results after the Gomery report. The few sacrificial lambs were slaughtered. But those who actually used the taxpayers' money to buy support are still hidden and protected.

But the fact is that: investors had been burnt. You think this does not put a question on Canada's way of handling things? Yoo-hooo, invest in Canada...and you invest in a banana republic!

You want proven facts? Check out Harper's real views of Canada and how it should be run. You can decide after that if he was just an ultra-right-wing headcase back then, or a complete liar now, who tossed away his values because he knows Canadians don't agree. The only way to get into a position to put his beliefs into reality is to throw money around like "a drunken sailor" like he accused the liberals of doing last election, and lie about his true convictions and intentions all the way to 24 Sussex. Oooooh, scary. Sorry, but the way the Liberals are trashing our system is what scares me most. And the on-going arrogance and sense of entitlement they emit....terrifies me. It points out that some people are above the law.

Hmm... only place it says the SEC is investigating is in your post and in Wasylycia-Leis' oppinion. Sorry, NO SALE!!! I said "REVIEWING." I try not to emulate the Liberal party in twisting facts.

Please post a link to ANYWHERE that has the SEC themselves saying they are reviewing the Income Trust Leak. From what I understand all the SEC has sent out was basically a form letter type response to the NDP allegations. I don't know how to do the link-thingy. Go to www.ctv.ca They have an article titled: US Watchdog Looking Into Income Trust Trading And that is what Harper is going to do... steal my tax reduction that Goodale gave me. Pure conjecture. Just your own pov at this point. My pov is based on proven facts. What actually happened. The pattern of corruptions exist in the Liberal party. Please post a link to ANYWHERE that has the SEC themselves saying they are reviewing the Income Trust Leak. From what I understand all the SEC has sent out was basically a form letter type response to the NDP allegations. I don't know how to do the link-thingy. Go to www.ctv.ca They have an article titled: US Watchdog Looking Into Income Trust Trading And that is what Harper is going to do... steal my tax reduction that Goodale gave me. Pure conjecture. Just your own pov at this point. Btw, what you are only assuming Harper will do ....the Liberals have actually been doing already! My pov is based on proven facts. What actually happened. The pattern of corruptions exist in the Liberal party.

Your claim is just pure conjecture. Heck, it could even be a part of the "scary" tactics. You could be a planted "mole"...a professional "spinner" for the Liberals paid to go to website forums. I am not accusing you...I am just stating the skeptism that would normally go through an ordinary citizen like me at this point. For it was commented on tv that professional spinners do exist. It's their job. Again, I just want to repeat that this is not actually accusing you. You could say my attitude reflect my mistrust for anything about the Liberals now. But since you are a Liberal supporter, obviously I'm not sold on your predictions. But even if I am a conservative supporter, what I have stated about the Liberal corruptions are proven facts. Their records of proven corruptions and scandals speak for itself.

Your claim is quite so hard to swallow, but just for the sake of argument, let's assume that everything happened by mere fluke. It is the previous PROVEN pattern of corruptions among the Liberals that is the glaring fact. The Liberal Party has a track record of proven corruptions. Btw, lies and Theft go hand in hand. Your claim is quite so hard to swallow, but just for the sake of argument, let's assume that everything happened by mere fluke. It is the previous PROVEN pattern of corruptions among the Liberals that is the glaring fact. The Liberal Party has a track record of proven corruptions. It is peeling like an onion. Leaking like a rusty bucket. Surely you cannot blame the people for not having trust on this government anymore. Why, it's just common sense. Btw, lies and Theft go hand in hand.