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What is happening in the USA now is a lot stranger than any fiction. What do you think the detention centers are being built for ?

This site gives a summary of mainstream reports showing alleged terrorists still alive.

That was on mainstream media. You can search for "John Yoo torture children" on google. You were likely in a hypnotic state when you heard it on TV yourself. Its not a statute, its John Yoos interpretation meaning it is affectively law in reality. Those guys interpret the law.

Private bankers have been running the world for well over 1000 years. Its not something that is taught in school. For example in archealogical shows they tell you everything about a society except how their money and banks worked. Shows will talk about sewage, water, housing, politics, technology, wars but never money and financing. This part of history has been practically erased. All the US leaders that were assasinated or had an attempted assasination were monetary reformers and you can find quotes from them.

You are spending a lot of your time defending people that want to torture children in front of the parents, lock people up without trials, start wars based on lies, and destroy the countries economically and drive us into a depression by printing access currency.

ABC, NBC,BBC. see whatreallyhappened.com He just mostly uses mainstream clips.

No, you just pulled that explaination out of your rectum. No it doesn't. Your imagination doesn't prove anything. Your opinion is not proof of anything. Yes thats true in a sense - it really depends exactly how seigniorage is defined. Seigniorage is very close to 100% when electronic money is created if it applies to electronic money.

Then you are an idiot. I've never met Jenna. I listed the facts when I started this thread. The fact is that the hijackers names were not on the first released flight manifest. The flight manifest was changed later. I saw this fact that the names were not on the manifests on mainstream news shortly before Osama's statement that he was not involved in the attacks was reported. It came out a few days after 911 and before two weeks after when Osama released a statement. Some calls were made by airphone, others were admittedly made by cell phone. Check 911Research if you want the facts. I always refer to that site for the facts. 911 Research does show the official record of phone calls. Some were defintely cell phones. Also various statements from cell phone makers show cell phone calls from the planes was impossible at 30,000 feet. Where ? We know the high jackers were not on the planes because cell phone companies have said the alleged cell phone calls were impossible and we know the terrorists were not on the planes because multiple independent sources have reported finding terrorists alive.

Iran has never attacked anyone in its entire existance. They are also not like all the other countries in the regions which are Arabic. Iranians are Persians. Iran has one thing in common with all the other rogue nations: It doesn't have a privately owned central bank.

No. I have explained that approximately 3.5 % of Canadian money is not debt based.

Life would dramatically change - from education quality, hospital quality, infrastructure quality, lower taxes, fewer (if any ) wars, unbiased media that reports news. Removing the central bankers from their position of being able to print our money at virtually no cost and lending it to us at full face value would change society so much for the better that it is difficult to count the ways or imagine how much. They are an incredible drain, not only on us but for every member of h7umanity that is not living in one of the "rogue" nations all of which that do not have private central banks.

Its fact that they met on Jekyll Island in a secret meeting. We have more land than we need and an abundance of natural resources. Well fed people work harder. The Iran Contra affair was real. Someone other than Oswald shot Kennedy. How did Kennedy car dissapear ? What is going on with the trillions of dollars that are going missing from the Pentagon ? What about all the secret negotiations about the North American Union ? How can you not believe there is a conspiracy ?

The flight manifests were changed after mainstream reported the fact that the terrorist names were not on the manifest. Thats why the story that you mention was done. Who would assume anything else unless it was previously reported that their names were not on it. Anyways we know that the hijeckers were not on the planes when they crashed into the buildings because many were found alive after the crashes. True, but the planes altitude was at 30,000 ft before and after the cell phone calls. Unless the plane went way down and back up again the pl;ane was at 30,000 ft when the calls were made. The fact that the hijackers were not even on the planes AND found alive afterwarsd certainly suggests that this part of the official version was again made up. "Hi Mom. Its Mark Bingham" , "...Pull The Building", "...shot down..." No my facts are that hijackers were found alive after the "hijackings". This was reported by many independent sources.

I know. Thats why I am not always polite to you. You actually disgust me.

Mainstream media is losing ground to internet based media that is beyond corporate control. All mainstream media is losing market share. The 30 % of people or more that now believe 911 was an inside job of course knows mainstream is lying all the time because they do not give the truth movement the attention it deserves. Mainstream reporters are really nothing more than government apologists.

What do you think of what Judy Wood has to say ? She is more qualified than most engineers commenting on 911 because she has degrees Phd in materials and civil engineering. Do nyou think that she may not know because she is not directly deopendent on the government ? Maybe engineers that depend directly on government contracts are more likely to tell the truth ?

such as... ? Your opinion does not prove anything. That explanation came right from your a$$, not from your knowledge about banking. You have never read a book about banking, never taken a course and unless you have worked under Rockefeller directly, why should anyone think you know anything about banking ? You are actually insane. You think you know better than many economists about the subject but have never read anything about it.

All those allegations are not really allegations. They are fact. I forgot to mention torture and confinement without charges and court cases where you cannot see the evidence against you, and torturing children in front of their parents via genital manipulation with pliars. No, when I put forward a hypothesis I always call it such otherwise I deal with only fact.

Neocon it a trick word to distract us from the fact that the people in power now are neoliberals. They are not "new conservatives".

Yes, thjey have not yet changed the flags but North America is under one command and control and Canadians have been over in Iraq at top positions. Its an integrated army but the North American Union is all secret deals to sell off public assets at discount rates to the corporations and merge the wto countries into a fascist police state. Harper recently announced that he will be putting the army into cities.

We know that the cell phone calls were faked because the flight manifests show that none of the alleged hijackers were on the planes when they took off. Some calls were allegedly made by cell phones at 30,000 ft, which is impossible. This strongly suggests that those calls were faked so its likely the airphone calls were faked as well. Even if the phone calls were accepted and these facts ignored, it would be heresay evidence.

Talk about all your bank liabilities and assets all you want. I say its not real - its just the creation by someone with a pen and paper. Pull back the curtains and look beyond at fundamentally what is happening and how banks operate at the most basic level. You do not read. You are telling me how the banks operate at a numerical level and you have never ever read a single book on the topic or taken a course in the topic or met with any single high level banker and even listened to a speech done by a high level banker. You know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about. All of your words come straight out of your rectum and you think that you have this sort of intuitive understanding of things that is better than someone elses research. You are not only incredibly stupid, but that much more arrogant as well. Learn your subject matter before you start creating arguements, then your statements may have some basis in reality. Your little expose of how banks work comes right out of your a$$. Its not a rational world and you cannot rationalize everything. You are probably young and do not yet understand that. Its not a rational world in which we live and rationalization is not the way to explain it. Rationalization is for math not economics and banking.

I stated it as being a hypothesis that has supporting evidence. Ok. They lie about WMD's, they are forming the North American Union with no voter input or say, they are bringing in the police state on this continent, militarizing the police, and building detention centers. Trillions of dollars are being stolen out of the public purse. The Canadian Military is now fully integrated into the US army. Their wars are our wars now. 911 is being lied about and a real unbiased investigation has never taken place (unless you consider Pentagon propogandists unbiased). To stick up for this government means that you must be a neocon fascis who thinks they will benefit from all of this. You have to be able to see something is wrong if you can dress yourself in the morning. If you wanted to do some good and you honestly believe 911 was as how the gov says it is then why don't you spend time on some other thread ? Why do you so pationately defend what is obviously a corrupt government ? What is the matter with you ? Do you think it should be illegal to question 911 ? Do you think you are doing yourself or anyone else a favour by defending a government who could easily defend itself if it had the truth on its side ? Why are you so dedicated to defending the Bush administration ? Do you think its patriotic to defend the governemnt even when they are obviously criminals ?

I know of two Phd level economists that have told me I am right personally. I know of lots of other economists who speak out on this. I've never heard of an economist that said the private banks don't create money. That would be like a mathematician telling you 2+2=5.

I will only stick with known fact - I will not venture into the realm of hypothesis. I dissagree with you about me being able to change opinions. Others seem to like my posts but these neocon fascists don't and I don't care. I am under no illusion that I can convert these people - I can only expose them as fools which really angers them. Anger is an early step in realizing truth. I would accept evidenc ethat supported the neocon/ fascist point of view if there was some. I can't imagine why I wouldn't. The problem is that they have none. Can anyone describe a sigle piece of evidence that supports the notion that 911 was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists ?