DarkAngel_

is religion objective or subjective. if so has science been the only benefactor of knowledge? or is heart more to depth and learned open-mindedness or stubberness in religion. i ask out of fear that delusional and rational thinking out of their opposites are actually very much a part of the same thing, and morally irrelevant, for religion and morality are separate in part as well as science and morality are separate in part. if this is true then are our children’s new moral outlet movies and music, aside from morally correct parents, do they often turn 'immoral' without indoctrination from those outlets??? EDIT: The title of this thread has been edited to read: "Is religion objective or subjective? -- open mind, please, really?" so that it is more descriptive of the topic discussion. The original title was: "open mind, please, really?"

my sister is a historian on this subject... she'd find the poll ofensive. they argued the armanian genicide never happened and look what it got them... no where, it was proven.

look at the science involved, even as a "net" we seem to express our view more informationally then emotionally am i right? because emotionality is even present in the complex of out cerebral-cortex. which brings me to my point; this frame work on the internet creates a web of connections and ties between corporations, organizations, groups and individuals all with differed opinion some based on one extreme or an idea set in a stubborn sense by the 'beliefs' of the mind, well or not (as well as right or not) if u look at the internet as a combination of advanced idea's and connections, as well as business, it comes out looking like a human complex of great conflict and idealism. cyber bullying is a metaphor for an over emotional outburst of confliction to one of these individuals connected to a network. though some groups are agreeable and correct, the troubled individual lashes out, as well as a deluded group. so the question is, was he delusional?

agreed, it was calm, slow, and not ravent (like mine lol) but ill put this to you... to ALL of you, if i ever saw anyone in distress, id like to think i could help, if i was near, and those punks pulled guns? they would know umbra and true fear... id instill it before the fact. not call cops first... no time to. not yell out to them... thats dumb. just charge... and hope its not turned into a quick bus ticket to the afterlife. i hope you'd all do the same... thats true bravery and revolution against oppressors.(heroics at best) and representation is great. but death to a killer is mercy, they deserve none.

i agree! indeed this is so! we show them justice has the right to kill. why do most of them do this in the first place? to them it is for justice! they were outcast by kin and old Friends, rejected by opposite sexes, it does not matter! Friends i think the answer to this post is: killing by any means of retribution is wrong! unless the threat still exists!

"feminizing of society." thats like asking "when the hell did people become alirgic to peanuts?!" women have equal rights, so we as the 'alpha' must equalize... we agreed to this guys... don't go changing your minds now. (or we may have to sleep on the coach)

"self induced euphoria is becoming a bad bad drug, even our kids are feeling it! we must must put a stop to it right now!!! they believe in a good thing and we hate them... just 'hate' them." above: atheist misinterpretation, the one stigmatized by the other faiths and our messed up politicians...lol (not a good atheist.... bad atheist, sit, stay, rollover!) if anyone wants atheists dead? your going to hell...lol... because of this contradiction one day we may have to choose what we do wisely... or we'll all have our prisons to be locked in and army against. so i ask you, do you agree, "we must stop funding for health care for poor people especially if I have to pay for it, women fed up with the slaughter of their children denied access to Canada" is that really a great way to go?? well i think it speaks for its self. and scriblett! put the gun down!

HA! and yet the dirty man would laugh at your matching socks and moral degradation, i know words, not how there spelt, you know how to spell them, and you know not the words i speak. the breadwinner must give to the needy, hence he become a bread giver, that is morally correct! on a rich mans opinion maybe not... but for that shame, to deny the needy is to forget such regret, hence you house worms then you become the bum!! a bum of moral and financial deny-ability! hahahaha, this thing you say, through relativity is not so, we are in different circumstances, on the street i look like a hippie, a mafia thug, or a troubled artist... ill even sent u a picture lol. look at Einstein, he was no "breadwinner." suck up your clichéish impertanance... you suggest i appear what i am not, honestly... i can not spell... or lie.

HARD ROCK/DEATH METAL/BLACK METAL/PUNK METAL/HEAVY METAL I'm into all, as well as: brutal honesty brutal honor-ism brutal heroics brutal romance the art of brutality is romantic, and birthed from Scandinavia, Caledonia, and Rhineland. its the way of a warrior to a point. unless it goes beyond that great line called barbarism, that of which those whom often listen to the same stuff turn too... then kill people, or plan to at least.

i understand, ill repair that error on my spell check, I'm not a good speller. "errare humanum est" am i right? lol back onto point fellow thinkers: how are these stereotypes made? the one with guns and drench coats and killing... i mean I'm into brutality and metal but not the killing of innicence... even if not innocent: its a form of political vigilante, that of which trys to make a statement, or is just rage toward a system or body of structure of which one does not fit in... i think maybe for attention? what say you???

how crued... a useless way to spend a byte or 2... too bad, you could have shot me down some other way... i use short cuts and spell check and you mock that? pathetic, use your sense and dont waste my time writing how much of a waste of time your reply is. i could have used this time to say: i like blue. or: pizza pie is insulting but you mocked my spelling... back on subject: those who are not ready or prepaired for possible confruntation are weak see? good wast of time.

wow, how impervious, to be at one moment talking to politicians, then to one who uses the word! am i speaking in a phantoms tongue, might it all disappear lol. what is a 'voice' for the people, i am atheist but i do not deny Highness and greatness, is not how simple one man is to the cosmos a speech unwritten in the eyes of a blinding government? it is advertised obviously, id like to see how you agree Friend.

ur all so deluded... and comical which i like, all good wazr stories my middle-school grade vetrens! lol but lets be honest, school shootouts happen, as well as mugging, beatings, being jumped, burglurized... but its ok, if u wish to 'turn to the cops' once the blade is at your back? im sure ull recover... ON YOUR FACE! im not saying being over armed, never said it in the fist place, just fight to the end once the fight comes to you... that is all. (and if it happens to be that they don't know ur there and u have a pointy object, koduos to you!) "in dubium vocare procul dubio,appello:"umbrae Aggelos" noctu? damnari inter sicarios!" LOL ignorance is death dear freinds!

your advertisment of security is crude at best, if the battle rain at your hometown would you not take up arms? or wait for them in the shadows... being prepared is being strong.

that of which you speak has changed, defining manhood is now based on your worth: as in $$$ it is a shame i agree, but more for the fight of which you speak to be contested then brutalized may indeed reignite honor.... or rage. by the way i see it, the men of the present wish to forget the men of the past, because they are ashamed of the men of the future (and no thats not Nietzsche) honor and dignity reappearing now may hamper that boiling point that makes the conscience either kick in... or die. let those who wish to be lead by this immasculation be lead until they find, that they are weak as the men of the present... or am i misinterpreting your meanings? as well one must learn to defend home and country, as well as self. the cops don't get to a 'shoot out in progress' they get to a crime scene, even if they do catch them, the damage has already been done... in my book, the civilians, crimanals, and police are weak, in the end it never stops and no one wins... unless they're lucky.

i thought she would steal my heart, instead she stole my virginity.

if only the wings of such a nymph could encompass me... I'm not dark, i just prefer to stay in it, cowardly? perhaps, but we'll see who the winner is at a school shoot-out once the lights go out... the finesse of survival should be quick and decisive, all it would take is enough fear, a clear target of vulnerability, and a pencil... if more then one? then still keep trying to the death! and that of the fight is a good way to die... trying to survive instead of cowering in fear.

your very funny, and realistic... i respect that. but unless the man at the top speaks as one voice as in the people, and until our moral fiber has hit its completeness, (not saying it will not change from that) man WILL be more animal then human... i define my logic and heart by what was passed down to me and that was true loyalty to your kin and neighbor! if he fight against me for no reason just find the best way to sway them... killing begets more killing, births beget more births, and until we find a medium, we will be born to die at the hands of war, and the victors children shall reign, giving rise to rebellion and opposition to that working body. the way it works now is stunting the humans growth, in mind and technology. we could be so much more without it

HA! thats claiming profit from what was declared a moral war on terror, is the bloody hand justified, if in it is gold? that my Friend is greed! the succession of slave-politics as an economical constant, corps. getting good deals while others suffer, as well as being manipulated by benifactors and those who fund these agenda's... profits of war, do you see why i say we need a voice to stand against atrocity? even if they are not prevented maybe this political agenda sized bull will go from benefiting corperations and political status, to benefiting the people... and our ever evolving ideology. what would the world say, if we were asked why?

i say lets become hippies... all who agree say 'I' lets face it the world is full of people who want to kill people, ha! and death? if it come from behind let it first find me! all should be trained in the use of non-lethal defense. ignorance is a fact to volnrability... this has little to do with money, but philosophy and ideology: or are you all going materialist on me. are we qeustioning weather the gov. should take control... that makes everyone lazy, weak, and foolish. the wisdom of a self-protector and protecter of the weak should speak for itself.

ill give you a reason men dont like going to the doctor, but its a scary story not for the faint of heart lol: i was sick you see, went in, they did their tests, i was quite patient! they pumped me full of drugs and i went fast asleep, the doctor, just out of med school seemingly floated into the room, i didn't even hear him, kinda freaked out, he calmed me with more, (guess what,) drugs, then BOOM! i got a needle in my back, 2 hours later he appeared the same way then told me i had meningitis (viral) after which i ate a hardy dinner of brick and some ash soup with a side of throw-up. then this drop-dead gorgeous girl came in, asked if i was OK, i told her i couldn't use the bathroom... you know i was constipaded...(from too many drugs) so this girl of my dreams; STUCK A BIG BLACK PILL UP MY BUTT. after of which i had nightmares about that doctor being a vampire and that nurse violating me. once i got out i bought a multi-vitamin and some immune system boosters and i keep taking them to this day!!! get it?

and thats when they invented sex change...lol well i agree it has little to nothing to do with gender, but oh how tasty, you say i can be no better that anyone else genrally? at least to spicific issues?? the only time feeling immasculated is even defined is by either the working class, as in sexist issues. or with actual sexuality, i dont see this as an issue, just a very funny subject of intrest. you say all women are equal to men and all men equal to women? i think the arrow hit the mark when you said, "depending on the issue or subject at hand." dumb people come in all shapes, sizes, and genders. immasculation is just a degridation of triditional manhood, my delcoration alone! and respect for the fellow man as well as being gentlemen-like is more than enough to make me a man...

ya, not really insulted all that much for being american. i was called a burger stuffer once by a freind from victoria... maybe im just too neutral. SOMEONE INSULT ME!!!

ok... this post is messed up suddenly, ive following it and you all are as crazy as i am. congrats! as well, skin color change is not all that signifigant in genetics... physical mutations from proteins are... like our almost uncanny resemblance in dna to chimps, yet our maturaty being so much diffrent as well as us having a complex cerebrum.

well you just cant genralize it like that... what of the individual reason for choosing the right, what you say is an insult to the working govemental body. granted its far from perfect, and often unaccepable but genrally its the ignorant mass that are to lazy to learn 'factual data' that influence popular opinion, at least on this "rightous" governmental side... i agree though that it still leaves it unjustified. again, if only greece didn't fall and alexandria burn *tear*