sharkman

Uh, anyway, things will begin to take shape in the days after Friday.

The orders are regarding two different matters. Who has suggested this? Trump?

Well, we'll see who is tearing themselves apart. Look up Executive order 13799. The report gets dropped on Friday. You've been served. I'll also add this: Lin Wood has a list of about 1000 Americans who are involved with colluding with foreign nations during the election, but that part hasn't been proved in a court of law.

That is exactly, and I mean exactly, right. You are being informed by a media that wanted Trump to lose this election in the worst way. These media outlets in the US are legally considered entertainment venues. They are not bound by the fetters of journalist integrity anymore. And it’s the exact same for the media outlets on the right. So there are two completely different realities being reported. That’s why we can’t understand each other. For an example I give you the Steele Dossier. Not one word of it was verified as of January 17, 2017, according to Wikipedia.. No corroboration, no witnesses. There used to be a time when the news organizations would not touch something like that. But in 2016, because they wanted to throw an election for Hilary, they went with it wall to wall, 24/7. Can you admit that they were wrong to report on something that was not verified? Can you put your feelings aside for Trump, and just analyze that objectively?

I've got plenty of empathy right now, pal!! Plenty!!!

Well I’m glad that you’re glad!

I’m just wondering why she doesn’t resign her seat, almost like she’s not sure about the Election result?

I'd say it's high time for Kamala to resign from her Senate position, wouldn't you?

THE FBI IS INVESTIGATING HUNTER BIDEN. THAT'S. THE. F.B.I. link one link two link three link four  -  IRS and FBI, thanks CNN The justice department is also investigating Hunter Biden Again, before the election, twitter shut down the New York Post as they tried to report on this. They had Hunter Biden's laptop. They had his business partner, who had records of their emails and phone texts. It was all shut down by claiming it was Russia and Guiliani. There is an email that says that Joe Biden is to get 10 million out of one of the deals within China.

It’s wrong for any media outlet to be biased. But what they are doing these days is beyond reckless.

Argus, here's a nice opinion piece that you won't like, it's from a conservative and blames Bill Clinton's Telecommunication Act of 1996, which relaxed ownership laws, allowed media monopolies owned by a few rich people. I suppose you think Clinton is innocent?

I read the first 2 pages then realized that the author hadn't gotten to the main part of what he/she wanted to say about Gingrich. I hate long winded people, they tend to be full of themselves. It began to take shape as just another opinion piece. From a liberal minded person. I need more than opinion. I don't think you realize what happened around the Hunter Biden story in the run up to the election. The New York Post broke the story on Twitter. Twitter immediately shut them down. Peter Schiif publicly stated that it was a Russian disinformation story. CNN, MSNBC, NBC and most other of the MSM all publicly stated that it was some kind of Russian information operation. You seem unaware of this. That's how the story was shut down by MSM and big tech. Then the election happened, and we never heard another word about this story from the MSM. But last week, Hunter Biden announced that he was under investigation for tax issues, and now the MSM is allowed to talk about it. Now we find out that the FBI has been investigating him for 2 years. In the same way, the MSM is suppressing the instances of voter fraud. They have a free hand to shape the news any way they want. Okay, let's blame Reagan. Whomever is to blame, you seem okay with the fact that the media regularly lies and manipulates. I'm not okay with that. It needs to be fixed. It's causing a huge rift between the left and right in America and people are getting hurt.

A dirty politician? Bill Clinton was far more dirty and slimy. We could trade names of dirty politicians all day. I don’t think that gets to the heart of the matter of how the media became lap dogs of the Dems and Reps. Something is deeply wrong with this picture and it’s not just one side. It’s both sides. The MSM WIDELY claimed that the Hunter Biden story was a Russian hoax before the election, do you remember that? Now after the election the same media outlets are reporting it VERY differently. They did that to protect Biden’s election chances, you realize this, yes? And Fox was trying to protect Trump, can you see that this is lying to the public to advance their agendas? They have become propaganda arms of their respective political parties. It’s the exact opposite of what the news organizations were supposed to be. And it’s wrong. it’s criminal to push some narratives and suppress others to manipulate the public.

Petros, don’t read your own press clippings. There wouldn’t be civil war, States would leave the union peacefully. As I see it, the main stream media is the root cause for 90% of the discord. The last 20 years have been atrocious. The hate for Bush Jr, the worship of Obama and then the 4 years of shrieking over Trump. They left objectivity at the side of the road a long time ago, and I’m wondering how that happened. I heard a story of how news organizations changed their legal status to entertainment organizations, starting with Fox News, back near the turn of the century. This gave them much more leeway with facts vs narrative in the courts apparently. Has anyone else heard this theory?

For the life of me, I don't understand how the justice system allows fraud like this...either they are a nation of laws or they aren’t.

I assumed that voter fraud would be something that hadn’t had much success in court previously, maybe few or no precedents yet. And since they had no one coming forward stating that they organized and carried out mass fraud... What ticks me off about the SCOTUS decision is, the various conservative talking heads I’ve been following are all now saying it was a long shot anyway! What? None of them called it that in the run up, and now they’re all focusing on the next case like nothing happened. At least call it a setback... I was already disenchanted with the MSM all claiming voter fraud didn’t exist and suppressing it at the same time, but now seeing how my side is out of touch with reality on this. A pox on both of their houses.

Wow, so I guess that’s it then. SCOTUS is not going to hear the case. I will say I’m puzzled at what might happen every election from here out.

There are two arguments, and that is one of them. I’ll have to look up the details again...

Yeah, did you hear the one about Hunter Biden being under investigation? No, no, not before the election, when the MSM and Peter Schiff claimed that Hunter was as pure as the driven snow and these rumours came straight from Russia. Remember that over 50 ex intelligence officials had signed a public letter stating that the story had all the hallmarks of being a Russian information operation? Remember that? Well it turns out, that those 50 officials. And the MSM were the operation to keep the path clear for Joe Biden’s election chances. Hunter is really under investigation and had been since 2018 by the FBI. So that means the FBI was also giving silent approval to the 50 con men and MSM spreading lies. Gotta love it. Here’s what we know so far. Hunter. Money. China. I’m telling you, the house of cards is coming down. Did you see the video of a Chinese Elite speaking at a convention full of Chinese elites in China. He was bragging about the Hunter Biden money thing. What? You haven’t heard that one either? The MSM probably thinks that the whole thing is a Russian operation. Here’s a link that contains the video.   Here’s a quote from the Chinese elite in the video: DI DONSHENG (translation): But now we're seeing Biden was elected [laughter]. The traditional elite, the political elite, the establishment, they're very close to Wall Street. So you see that, right? Trump has been saying that Biden's son has some sort of global foundation. Have you noticed that? Who helped him [Biden's son] build the foundations? Got it? There are a lot of deals in all these. [laughter, applause]

Ok that proves it. You believe in the Kraken!

Dude, dude, dude. You really shouldn’t have said that about the Kraken. Now you’re going to have a nasty Christmas. Because I’m going to have to tell the Kraken on this one. Come on, man. I can’t not tell the Kraken. My hands are tied, buddy. And you. Aren’t you on the island, right next to a large body of water called the Pacific Ocean? Come on, man, you’re just begging for it. Begging.

Saying worse things for a decade? Riiight... BTW, I thought you should know, the Kraken was sighted in Texas...

I'm going to share a video from michigan rep cynthia johnson. In it she threatens Trump reporters and tells her "soldiers" to "do it right". I'd like to dedicate this to Argus, the Beave, and BCsapper. "So this is just a warning to you Trumpers. Be careful. Walk lightly. We ain't playin' with you. Enough of the shenanigans. And for those of you who are soldiers. You know how to do it, do it right. Be in order, make them pay."

Yeah, I've been stalking you for days and posting after every single post you make, not! Try to turn that frown upside down, brother, your stomach will thank you.

You can thank your liberal party, Argus...